General Goofy Does Barbarossa
General Goofy Does Barbarossa
Okay I have never played a DC game, but have taken the plunge on this one based on the (mostly) positive comments so far.
This AAR is therefore (hopefully) going to take the form of a totally new player to the game system receiving advice and recommendations from other players - as a means to a) learning the game himself and b) teaching other newbs how to play this game.
Choices:
- I am only interested in playing as the Germans, so that is an easy.
So what would players recommend for other options? I think my preference would be for:
- Normal AI
- Fast AI Speed
- Fog of War - OFF
- Hide AI Moves - OFF
- Historical - ON
- Mild Winter - OFF
- Geneva Convention - OFF
- Easy Mode - OFF
- All option in the right hand screen - OFF
Comments on these choices appreciated!
This AAR is therefore (hopefully) going to take the form of a totally new player to the game system receiving advice and recommendations from other players - as a means to a) learning the game himself and b) teaching other newbs how to play this game.
Choices:
- I am only interested in playing as the Germans, so that is an easy.
So what would players recommend for other options? I think my preference would be for:
- Normal AI
- Fast AI Speed
- Fog of War - OFF
- Hide AI Moves - OFF
- Historical - ON
- Mild Winter - OFF
- Geneva Convention - OFF
- Easy Mode - OFF
- All option in the right hand screen - OFF
Comments on these choices appreciated!
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Duke of Wellington to 1st Guards Brigade - Waterloo 18 June 1815
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RE: General Goofy Does Barbarossa
- Fog of War - OFF
- Hide AI Moves - OFF
Do you have the deliberately chosen?
- Hide AI Moves - OFF
Do you have the deliberately chosen?
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warspite1ORIGINAL: Templer
- Fog of War - OFF
- Hide AI Moves - OFF
Do you have the deliberately chosen?
Sorry what is the question please?
Now Maitland, now's your time!
Duke of Wellington to 1st Guards Brigade - Waterloo 18 June 1815
Duke of Wellington to 1st Guards Brigade - Waterloo 18 June 1815
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in your first post screen shot you have selected to have on FOW, so as a beginner, making it harder for yourself etc
with Hide AI Moves - OFF just speeds up the turns tbh, but as you see where there have moved and not moved anyway with FOG off, i normally say leave AI Moves - OFF as well
was the answer
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post 14 is the easiest settings for learning the game imo, but others may give better or more correct advice as i'm only a tester not a real player either, but for me it was the ones i used to make the game / tests easier [;)]
^^ above is easy mode, you just need to deselect the mild winters and it's done
with Hide AI Moves - OFF just speeds up the turns tbh, but as you see where there have moved and not moved anyway with FOG off, i normally say leave AI Moves - OFF as well
was just one above re your postComments on these choices appreciated!
Sorry what is the question please?
was the answer
are you sure you want these etc? in other words as for one you saidDo you have the deliberately chosen?
and then ticked the box or shown a screenshot with it on, he means[;)]- Fog of War - OFF
tm.asp?m=3976280
post 14 is the easiest settings for learning the game imo, but others may give better or more correct advice as i'm only a tester not a real player either, but for me it was the ones i used to make the game / tests easier [;)]
^^ above is easy mode, you just need to deselect the mild winters and it's done
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RE: General Goofy Does Barbarossa
This should be good. Warspite follows through with some very thorough AAR's. Having him learn the game in the process should be entertaining.
Thanks Warspite
I'll grab the pretzels. Who's got the beer?
Thanks Warspite
I'll grab the pretzels. Who's got the beer?
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It is very rare that someone disabled these settings.ORIGINAL: Templer
- Fog of War - OFF
- Hide AI Moves - OFF
But it's your game.
Looking forward to your AAR. [:)]
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ORIGINAL: Templer
It is very rare that someone disabled these settings.ORIGINAL: Templer
- Fog of War - OFF
- Hide AI Moves - OFF
But it's your game.
Looking forward to your AAR. [:)]
I think he may be doing this for the viewers to see what is happening on the opponents side, but it may reveal too much for a game such as this.
Did you have your heart set on that setting choice Warspite?
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I am also very interested in your AAR.
Thank you !
Thank you !
Former AJE team member
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warspite1ORIGINAL: zakblood
in your first post screen shot you have selected to have on FOW, so as a beginner, making it harder for yourself etc
with Hide AI Moves - OFF just speeds up the turns tbh, but as you see where there have moved and not moved anyway with FOG off, i normally say leave AI Moves - OFF as well
was just one above re your postComments on these choices appreciated!
Sorry what is the question please?
was the answerare you sure you want these etc? in other words as for one you saidDo you have the deliberately chosen?
and then ticked the box or shown a screenshot with it on, he means[;)]- Fog of War - OFF
tm.asp?m=3976280
post 14 is the easiest settings for learning the game imo, but others may give better or more correct advice as i'm only a tester not a real player either, but for me it was the ones i used to make the game / tests easier [;)]
^^ above is easy mode, you just need to deselect the mild winters and it's done
Sorry I appear to have confused the issue!
For beginners like me I wanted to show the screen as it appears when you open the game. I wasn't going to pick the options until I had the feedback - sorry.
I think that for a newb, FOW and Hidden AI moves ON won't help the learning process so I do not want to play with either of these for this AAR - unless someone suggests a good reason for going the other way.
Now Maitland, now's your time!
Duke of Wellington to 1st Guards Brigade - Waterloo 18 June 1815
Duke of Wellington to 1st Guards Brigade - Waterloo 18 June 1815
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a tick in the box puts FOW on not off, for me if you want to show a AAR, it's good to see where all are imo, then again you know a lot more about it then me tbh, regarding Hidden AI i leave the tick in the box as i'm not bothered about watching the AI move, as with FOW off, i see where and what they have or haven't done, but as you wish to display that info, then yes leave it not ticked then[&o]
edited typo again[:(]
i'm sure i'm going daft in my old age and forgetful [X(][&o]
imo most will learn the game with easy mode on so ticked, as then you worry less about supply.
with mild winters on so ticked, so less cold, jumpers not ice and no movement later in the game for mostly the German side
and tick all the last boxes in the right had column, but then it plays mostly as a bog standard counter game, so doesn't show it off in a ARR, so leave all unticked maybe.
good luck and look forward to also seeing your results[&o] [&o][&o]
edited typo again[:(]
i'm sure i'm going daft in my old age and forgetful [X(][&o]
imo most will learn the game with easy mode on so ticked, as then you worry less about supply.
with mild winters on so ticked, so less cold, jumpers not ice and no movement later in the game for mostly the German side
and tick all the last boxes in the right had column, but then it plays mostly as a bog standard counter game, so doesn't show it off in a ARR, so leave all unticked maybe.
good luck and look forward to also seeing your results[&o] [&o][&o]
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I think that for a newb, FOW and Hidden AI moves ON won't help the learning process so I do not want to play with either of these for this AAR - unless someone suggests a good reason for going the other way.
You are a newb to this game but seeing how you handle monsters such as WiF I don't consider you that type of newb. I don't have the game yet but Id venture to guess that the strongest part of the AI will be its depth and movements/reserves/buildups. With those exposed imo, i think it will hamper the ai too much for such a seasoned wargamer.
Granted, it would be great to see how the ai performs in its rear areas, I think it may just be too all knowing on your part. Id hate to think that people would be put off the game if it seemed too easy as imo those settings might be for people not used to wargaming in general.
Plus, there are many of us rooting against you. We have our favorites.
But its your vehicle. We're just along for the ride....and possible crash
mo reb
**Those who rob Peter to pay Paul can always count on the support of Paul
**A government big enough to give you everything you want is a government big enough to take from you everything you have-Gerald Ford
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RE: General Goofy Does Barbarossa
Okay here is the options screen for this AAR
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My .02$
- Normal AI (good choice as it already quite challenging)
- Fast AI Speed (unless you have an older PC, I would set it at the slowest setting. It takes no more than 2 min per turn for me. Time well spent being alt-tabbed out and in the forum )
- Fog of War - OFF (keep the mystery and set it to ON. When OFF it becomes too easy to exploit penetrations)
- Hide AI Moves - OFF (as I recall, it slightly speeds up turn resolution, so not a big deal)
- Historical - ON (might help you counter the AI sligthly but for your first game it should not matter)
- Mild Winter - OFF (Good idea)
- Geneva Convention - OFF (Fine)
- Easy Mode - OFF (Definitely the right choice. Logistics is at the core of this game, and turning this on would remove a key selling point IMHO)
EDIT: Ninja´ed by OP by 24 seconds
- Normal AI (good choice as it already quite challenging)
- Fast AI Speed (unless you have an older PC, I would set it at the slowest setting. It takes no more than 2 min per turn for me. Time well spent being alt-tabbed out and in the forum )
- Fog of War - OFF (keep the mystery and set it to ON. When OFF it becomes too easy to exploit penetrations)
- Hide AI Moves - OFF (as I recall, it slightly speeds up turn resolution, so not a big deal)
- Historical - ON (might help you counter the AI sligthly but for your first game it should not matter)
- Mild Winter - OFF (Good idea)
- Geneva Convention - OFF (Fine)
- Easy Mode - OFF (Definitely the right choice. Logistics is at the core of this game, and turning this on would remove a key selling point IMHO)
EDIT: Ninja´ed by OP by 24 seconds
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RE: General Goofy Does Barbarossa
Despite mo reb's kind words I am more at home on the water - the endless Russian Steppe is frankly frightening - assuming I can even negotiate the Pripyat Marshes....
So, after pressing Start what happens?
Well this appears.
So, after pressing Start what happens?
Well this appears.
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normal AI difficulty wont make a great challenge and is based on learning only, not proper real or realistic move, so anything shown may be weaker than a above normal setting would be, turn AI think time to slow also give it a better chance of making a better move on normal and higher difficulty settings, or was in the beta[;)]
[8D]
but your game, your show, your rules, please just explain it's not the highest AI choices[8|][&o][&o][&o] which the AI can make ty, or not as again that's your call[8D]
[8D]
but your game, your show, your rules, please just explain it's not the highest AI choices[8|][&o][&o][&o] which the AI can make ty, or not as again that's your call[8D]
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RE: General Goofy Does Barbarossa
The game is telling me that it's wise to choose a strategy and to check the Report Tab and specifically "Summonsed to Berlin".
OR
Ignore all that and get on with the game.
Well I want to understand what this is about, so I will travel to the capital to see my beloved Fuhrer.
OR
Ignore all that and get on with the game.
Well I want to understand what this is about, so I will travel to the capital to see my beloved Fuhrer.
Now Maitland, now's your time!
Duke of Wellington to 1st Guards Brigade - Waterloo 18 June 1815
Duke of Wellington to 1st Guards Brigade - Waterloo 18 June 1815
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This takes me to the main map.
Oooh I say - what a lot of divisions. Strangely, the Soviet units are all clear and the German units are kind of greyed out. No idea what that is all about but I'm sure I will find out.
I take a brief look at my forces in the north and recognise Ritter von Leeb's three army formations - 16th and 18th armies + the 4th Panzergruppe (Ahhhh memories of looking at my dear old dad's Purnell's Encyclopedia of the Second World War as a young kid + a bit of Eastern Front reading since).
Oooh I say - what a lot of divisions. Strangely, the Soviet units are all clear and the German units are kind of greyed out. No idea what that is all about but I'm sure I will find out.
I take a brief look at my forces in the north and recognise Ritter von Leeb's three army formations - 16th and 18th armies + the 4th Panzergruppe (Ahhhh memories of looking at my dear old dad's Purnell's Encyclopedia of the Second World War as a young kid + a bit of Eastern Front reading since).
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In the south the paucity of the German forces becomes apparent.....
Let's hope Antonescu and his men are up to scratch...
Let's hope Antonescu and his men are up to scratch...
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And finally the largest and most important of the Army Groups. The task facing von Bock and Army Group Centre is colossal - not helped by the vast marsh land between it and Moscow that will make troop co-ordination an issue.
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