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RE: Back for the First Time – Allied AAR vs. AI - War i... - 1/27/2018 6:07:00 PM   
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YES!! Nicely done!

It looks like the Japanese didn't have all that much CAP even for the first raid. I'm not sure if that was because they used so many fighters to escort their own raids, or that they weren't playing "with a full deck" as it were after the first CV battle a few days before. But in any case your results were great and now the invasion of the Marianas should go ahead without much in the way of enemy interference. Good luck!

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RE: Back for the First Time – Allied AAR vs. AI - War i... - 1/27/2018 6:49:31 PM   
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Well done Schlussel!
I wonder if there was some FOW in the combat results where you hit Ryujo hard enough to sink her twice over. Perhaps you got Ryuho as well?

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RE: Back for the First Time – Allied AAR vs. AI - War i... - 1/27/2018 7:10:06 PM   
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quote:

Not as good as it seems though, because I already had Kaga and Ryujo on the sunk ship list.


BTW the Kaga is one tough ship. In my game it was harassed and chased by subs in the Java Sea area during the spring of 1942. It took SEVEN torpedoes to finally sink it. And I mean 7 hits, not just 7 fired!

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RE: Back for the First Time – Allied AAR vs. AI - War i... - 1/31/2018 5:18:18 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: jwolf

YES!! Nicely done!

It looks like the Japanese didn't have all that much CAP even for the first raid. I'm not sure if that was because they used so many fighters to escort their own raids, or that they weren't playing "with a full deck" as it were after the first CV battle a few days before. But in any case your results were great and now the invasion of the Marianas should go ahead without much in the way of enemy interference. Good luck!

Thanks Mr. Wolf, in the PM phase of the 22nd my strike against their carriers faced CAP but it was mostly land based planes. As you stated, this suggested they weren't playing with a "full deck" of fighters after the damage suffered that first day. The KB retreated towards the safety of the home islands, but also out of LBA coverage. The Allies sensed blood in the water.

These developments should make the capture of the Marianas easier (but definitely not easy).



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ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

Well done Schlussel!
I wonder if there was some FOW in the combat results where you hit Ryujo hard enough to sink her twice over. Perhaps you got Ryuho as well?

You're right, definitely FOW. I checked the sunk ships report and the Ryujo is no longer on there...even though she was listed as sunk in the combat report. The 3 CV listed as sunk now are Zuikaku, Shokoku, and Kaga...all listed sink on the 23rd. Hmmm...the mystery deepens.


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Not as good as it seems though, because I already had Kaga and Ryujo on the sunk ship list.


BTW the Kaga is one tough ship. In my game it was harassed and chased by subs in the Java Sea area during the spring of 1942. It took SEVEN torpedoes to finally sink it. And I mean 7 hits, not just 7 fired!

Yeah I hear ya, the Kaga is like that old guy in the "bring out your dead" scene in the Holy Grail.




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RE: Back for the First Time – Allied AAR vs. AI - War i... - 2/2/2018 10:43:21 PM   
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Seems you have won local control of the air and can continue with your plans for the invasion of the Marianas. He won't be back for a few months and by then you will be stronger than before since you lost no carriers in the exchange. A job well done.

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RE: Back for the First Time – Allied AAR vs. AI - War i... - 2/11/2018 6:19:25 AM   
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Thanks Bif, the Allies landed some good shots on the KB...lets see if we can press the advantage.

Week 98: October 20th – October 26th 1943
North Pacific:

Base building continues at Amchitka, Umnak and Attu. No IJN activity.




Central Pacific:
A two day CV Battle occurs near Guam on the 22nd and 23rd. Both sides take casualties (Allies sink 2 CVs/1CVL and damage 3 CVs, while the Japanese damage 1 CV/1CVL/2CVE). Part of the Japanese force escapes, but the result is the Allies control the sea and air around the Marianas.

Opening assaults in Operation Aperture commence, with the 32nd Infantry Division landing on Guam and the 37th Infantry Division hitting the beaches of Tinian. Both amphibious operations were preceded by a BB bombardment and were supported by artillery, AA, engineers & tanks. After consolidating their position, the Allied force on Guam launches a probing deliberate assault. Both sides lose about 15 disabled squads, but the forts are reduced from 3 to 2, AV is 380:252 in favor of the good guys at the end of the week. On Tinian, the Allied troops are taking longer to recover from the landing, so no attack yet, but the Allies have the AV advantage 265:184, forts are unknown.

The Truk bombing campaign resumes, intel reports damage is back at 100% for both port and Airfield.

On Morotai, the numerically superior Japanese launch three deliberate attacks this week, and all three are bloodily repulsed. Allied reinforcements, which include 4 marine regiments and artillery, are inbound from Rabaul and are already nearing Hollandia. Once this force makes landfall, the Allies can go on the offensive.

Tarawa invasion force will hit the beaches first thing tomorrow. Intel reports a 12 thousand troop garrison, but they have been under constant air attack for the last month...and supply is believed to be very low. Now we’ll see if the men of the 7th Infantry Division can close the deal.




Southern Pacific:
No IJN activity.




South-West Pacific:
IJA positions on Northern New Guinea near Ataipe and Wewak continue to take a pounding from Allied air. Supply is an issue for the Japanese here, and its only getting worse.




DEI/Philippines:
In the Philippines, all my base are belong to Japan.

In the DEI, no IJN activity noted.




SE Asia/China:
The Allied army northeast of Bangkok make good progress towards Ayuthia, and should arrive in 2-3 days.

On the northwest approaches to Bangkok, the Allied army faces an entrenched enemy across the river. The Allies here switch to a defensive posture, with a small detachment advancing southwest. Paratroop assault captures Prachuap Khiri Khan to spearhead this Allied drive down the Malay Peninsula.

Mergui and Tavoy are fully operational and host fighters that sweep Bangkok daily. Once the defending CAP is whittled down, the level bombers will move in and begin their destructive work.

In China, troops are in a defensive posture, and the supply situation is still improving. Transport planes are still flying supply from Chunking to Sian, and it is really helping the supply situation in the Loyang area.




IJN Watch:
-6 CV (130F/140B) and 2BB attacked near Guam. 3 CV confirmed sunk, the rest of the enemy force retreats north toward the home islands.




Notable Base Captures:
- Prachuap Khiri Khan [Malaysia] captured by the Allies (10/21)




Campaign Overview:

Aircraft Losses to date [change]:
Allies: 7,395 [+507]
Biggest Losses (#):P-40K Warhawk (602), Hurricane IIc (5579), SBD-3 Dauntless (422)

Japanese: 21,469 [+1,078]
Biggest Losses (#): G4M1 Betty (4,391), Ki-43 IIb Oscar (2,147), Ki-51 Sonia (1,683)


Ship Losses to date [change]:
Allies: 603 [+12]
Notables: CV Enterprise, CV Victorious, CVE Copahee, CVE Nassau, CVE Corregidor, CA Astoria, CA Portland, CA Adelaide, CL Durban, CL Sumatra, CL Java

Japanese: 1,305 [+16]
Notables: CV Soryu, CV Kaga, CV Junyo, CVL Shoho , CV Shokaku, CVL Zuiho, CVE Taiyo, CVE Hosho, BB Kongo, BB Fuso, BB Mutsu, BB Kirishima, BB Nagato, CA Mogami, CA Mikuma, CA Suzya, CA Aoba.


Army Losses to date [change]:
Allies: 10,710 [+18]
Japanese: 9,021 [+32]
A/J Ratio: 1.19 to 1


VP Totals [change]:
Allies: 58,694 [+3,974]
Japanese: 32,074 [+500]
A/J Ratio: 1.83 to 1




Operation Chimera:
Phase 1A:
-Assault & Capture Cotabato
-Secure Mindano

Phase 1B:
-Assault & Capture Balikpapan
-Assault & Capture Tarakan
-Reinforce Brunei

Phase 1C:
-Assault & Capture Watampone
-Assault & Capture Kolaka
-Assault & Capture Makassar
-Assault & Capture Kendari


Operation Aperture:
Phase 1:
-Assault & Capture Guam [1st wave ashore. AV 380:252, Forts at 2]
-Assault & Capture Tinian [1st wave ashore. AV 265:184, Forts unknown]
-Assault & Capture Saipan [Amphibious assets in route]

Phase 2:
-Assault & Capture Marcus




Other Notes:
-Another ARD Arrives in Seattle, where a DD escort group is waiting. The ARD begins its long voyage to Rabaul.
-As suspected by top Allied advisors, the Marianas landings had more resistance than indicated by intel. However, allied forces are ashore intact and can hold their own until the second wave of forces arrive. With the Japanese isolated on the Marianas now, it’s only a question of time before they are overwhelmed.


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That means we can attack in any direction.

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RE: Back for the First Time – Allied AAR vs. AI - War i... - 5/14/2018 5:35:10 AM   
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PE exam and some real life stuff put the war on hold, but we are back at it.

Situation Report – November 1st 1943





Central/North Pacific:


Capital Ships: 1-CVE, 1-BB @Pearl Harbor
Fuel Reserves: 3,538K @ Pearl Harbor
Near-Term Plans: Continue developing bases in Aleutians. Operation to secure critical bases in Marshalls/Gilberts. 43rd and 7th Inf. Divisions are prepping for Kwajalein, and Roi Namur respectively.
Long Term Plans: Advance on Marianas/Philippines.





SW Pacific:


Capital Ships: 6-CV, 6-CVE, 2-CVL, 13-BB
Fuel Reserves: 1,995K @ Noumea
312K @ Milne Bay
545K @ Rabaul
Near-Term Plans: Secure bases Borneo/Celebs/Mindano to assist cutting off oil/fuel from Japanese home islands.
Long Term Plans: Capture Java/Sumatra




SE Asia/China:


Capital Ships: 2-BB (@Colombo) 1-CV in route
Fuel Reserves: 1,885K @ Colombo
1,441K @ Rangoon
Near-Term Plans: Capture Bangkok and threaten Saigon. Advance down Malaya Peninsula to threaten Singapore
Long Term Plans: Capture Singapore/Saigon. Link up with Chinese in Indochina.





Base Supply/Construction Status:

Attu:
Port Size: 4.00 (+0.21)
Airfield Size: 4.00 (+0.03)
Supplies: 1K (10 Weeks of normal operations)


Babeldaob:
Port Size: 5.00 (MAX)
Airfield Size: 7.00 (MAX)
Supplies: 23K (4 Weeks of normal operations)

Eniwetok:
Port Size: 5.00 (MAX)
Airfield Size: 1.92 (+0.44)
Supplies: 14K (11 Weeks of normal operations)

Milne Bay:
Port Size: 6.00 (MAX)
Airfield Size: 8.00 (+0.12)
Supplies: 28K (14 Weeks of normal operations)

Manus:
Port Size: 7.00 (MAX)
Airfield Size: 8.00 (MAX)
Supplies: 138K (16 Weeks of normal operations)

Mussau:
Port Size: 4.00 (MAX)
Airfield Size: 8.00 (MAX)
Supplies: 266K (40+ Weeks of normal operations)

Pago-Pago:
Port Size: 4.23 (+0.11)
Airfield Size: 6.56 (+0.08)
Supplies: 42K (20+ Weeks of normal operations)

Pearl Harbor:
Port Size: 8.00 (MAX)
Airfield Size: 10.00 (MAX)
Supplies: 4,442K (100+ Weeks of normal operations)

Rabaul:
Port Size: 7.00 (MAX)
Airfield Size: 9.00 (MAX)
Supplies: 338K (10 Weeks of normal operations)

Rangoon:
Port Size: 9.00 (MAX)
Airfield Size: 9.00 (MAX)
Supplies: 400K (20+ Weeks of normal operations)

Ulithi:
Port Size: 4.02 (+0.00)
Airfield Size: 1.47 (+0.44)
Supplies: 11K (5 Weeks of normal operations)

Yap:
Port Size: 4.00 (+ 0.82)
Airfield Size: 5.14 (+1.13)
Supplies: 14K (5 Weeks of normal operations)


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You say we're surrounded?
Excellent!
That means we can attack in any direction.

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RE: Back for the First Time – Allied AAR vs. AI - War i... - 5/16/2018 3:21:38 PM   
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Nice to see an update and glad you are still at it.



While your progress against the AI is very strong and "evidently consistent" with many novice (more than 1 time) players experience verses the AI; I still find this thread informative for rookie players.

Your attack tactics are interesting and slightly varied from history providing thoughts of 'other ways to peel an onion'.

Your detailed breakdown of logistics is highly valuable providing a rookie some yard sticks about how valuable a mechanism it is in this game.

4 Million in Pearl exceeds my own limited capability

Curious - you provided AV for your Guam / Tinanin / Saipan invasions. Can you potentially provide a run down on the OOB for the Mariana's ?

I assume you have (all under PCO / SoPac Command)

1st Marine Divsion
2nd Marine Division ?
etc



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RE: Back for the First Time – Allied AAR vs. AI - War i... - 5/19/2018 6:00:04 PM   
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Thank you sir, I always appreciate your perspective...especially when you talk highly of my strategery. I've made my share of mistakes, but I think I have learned from them. Here's to future mistakes and hopefully learning from them as well


OOB for Aperature:

Guam:
-32nd Inf. Div.
-4 Field Art. Batallions
-2 Combat engineer regiments
-1 HQ (US Amphib. Corps)
-1 AA

Tinian:
-37th Inf. Div.
-2 Field Art. Battalions
-1 AA

Saipan:
-41st Inf. Div.
-2 Field Art. Battalions
-1 AA


Naval Support:
-6 CV
-6 CVE
-2 CVL
-13 BB
~95% of all allied assault shipping



Reinforcements:
-Currently I have 4 Inf. Brigades prepped (75% or more) for each island. They are being brought in by the assault ships that returned from the initial invasion wave.
-Base force & CB units are staging as well but they won't be brought in until their assigned island is captured.


Other Thoughts:
-As you can infer, I have put priority on capturing Guam. Now that the IJN threat has been neutralized, the plan is to focus Allied naval strength to support attacks on one island at a time (instead of dispersing it amongst all three islands). CVs are in position to thwart any IJN reinforcement efforts, while the BBs are shuttling back and forth from Ulithi (resupply base) bombarding to full effect.
-All units are under SoPac command.
-1 st Marine Div. is still split into its component regiments and they are prepping for DEI targets.
-2nd Marine Div. is still split into its component regiments, and they are in the Marianas reinforcement packages

< Message edited by Schlussel -- 5/19/2018 6:13:28 PM >


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