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A list of upgrade paths for Japanese A/C, Sen 2, Beta, ... - 3/1/2015 2:03:15 PM   
el lobo


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I would like a list of the upgrade paths for all of the Japanese aircraft (air frames) for Scenario 2, Beta, PDU = ON.

Or a place to find this list, or a method to produce this list. I have tried Tracker and the Editor neither of which are real conducive to producing this.

This has had to been done umpteen times but I have searched for days without finding a complete list. (It should not have been days but a lot of my searches lead to AARs and a good AAR is like a good book, hard to put down.)

Thanks.
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RE: A list of upgrade paths for Japanese A/C, Sen 2, Be... - 3/1/2015 3:28:02 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: el lobo

I would like a list of the upgrade paths for all of the Japanese aircraft (air frames) for Scenario 2, Beta, PDU = ON.

Or a place to find this list, or a method to produce this list. I have tried Tracker and the Editor neither of which are real conducive to producing this.

This has had to been done umpteen times but I have searched for days without finding a complete list. (It should not have been days but a lot of my searches lead to AARs and a good AAR is like a good book, hard to put down.)

Thanks.


Don't know why you are having difficulty extracting the upgrade path using Tracker. I have one in a spreadsheet but it's not scenario 2.

Go to aircraft, select Japan, sort name or number, look in upgrade To column for the Id number the a/c upgrade too. You will have to drag the column to get it where I have it.






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RE: A list of upgrade paths for Japanese A/C, Sen 2, Be... - 3/1/2015 3:45:49 PM   
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There is a fantastic powerpoint slid show put out by Hanzberger at sshanzberger@aol.com but I don't know where it is on the forum.

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RE: A list of upgrade paths for Japanese A/C, Sen 2, Be... - 3/1/2015 4:22:57 PM   
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There are Japanese upgrade flow charts on here...I made a copy but couldn't tell you where to find them.

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RE: A list of upgrade paths for Japanese A/C, Sen 2, Be... - 3/1/2015 4:25:17 PM   
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This is from a PDF someone put together, a Japanese Economy Primer "draft". I can't find in the PDF who wrote it, so can't give credit, but it included this super handy diagram.






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RE: A list of upgrade paths for Japanese A/C, Sen 2, Be... - 3/1/2015 5:16:16 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: el lobo

I would like a list of the upgrade paths for all of the Japanese aircraft (air frames) for Scenario 2, Beta, PDU = ON.

Or a place to find this list, or a method to produce this list. I have tried Tracker and the Editor neither of which are real conducive to producing this.

This has had to been done umpteen times but I have searched for days without finding a complete list. (It should not have been days but a lot of my searches lead to AARs and a good AAR is like a good book, hard to put down.)

Thanks.



PM me your email address and I'll send you SC 2 PDU upgrade list that I have. Courtesy of Hanzberger.

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RE: A list of upgrade paths for Japanese A/C, Sen 2, Be... - 3/1/2015 5:22:29 PM   
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Try this.

Go to this post number 2
http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=2769286&mpage=1&key=?

Save the attachment and then change the extension to .zip.

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RE: A list of upgrade paths for Japanese A/C, Sen 2, Be... - 3/2/2015 12:59:07 PM   
el lobo


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Hi Chris,

If I had discovered a clean list like your screen shot I would not have needed to do this post. I didn't find one so I posted.

However on playing with Tracker as you suggested, it appears that I may have had it awhile back and did not know it. I usually extract the Tracker page to a spread-sheet as soon as I get the data as I prefer to work from s/s, highlighting, better sorts, etc. It looks like I had messed-up the s/s and lost some of the data hence my comment as to not being conducive. My error.

I now have the data. Thanks for the big bump in the right direction.

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RE: A list of upgrade paths for Japanese A/C, Sen 2, Be... - 3/2/2015 1:00:44 PM   
el lobo


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dr. hal,

It is indeed a fantastic presentation. See Trugrit's post below.

Thank you.

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RE: A list of upgrade paths for Japanese A/C, Sen 2, Be... - 3/2/2015 1:03:55 PM   
el lobo


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pontiouspilot,

That made two of us. Is it Trugrit's post below?

Thanks for your reply.

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RE: A list of upgrade paths for Japanese A/C, Sen 2, Be... - 3/2/2015 1:04:59 PM   
el lobo


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Hi Malagant,

Scen 1 but it looks interesting and a nice lay-out. I'll take a look as the more I look at, the more it all jells.

Thanks

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RE: A list of upgrade paths for Japanese A/C, Sen 2, Be... - 3/2/2015 1:05:53 PM   
el lobo


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Thanks Chickenboy, sent.

I like you AARs.

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RE: A list of upgrade paths for Japanese A/C, Sen 2, Be... - 3/2/2015 1:07:15 PM   
el lobo


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Hay Trugrit,

These are some fantastic flow-charts. Followed you posted link and the directions in his Post #2, (and your .zip instructions) and extracted two Power Point presentations, Scen 1 and Scen 2. They opened in Open Office Presentation just fine.

Hanzberger and friends did a great job.

Thanks for your help.

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RE: A list of upgrade paths for Japanese A/C, Sen 2, Be... - 3/2/2015 4:35:04 PM   
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Hi el lobo,

I sent you the attachment a short while ago by email. Hope that helps.

As for the AARs, thanks! It's been forever since I've updated any of them though...

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RE: A list of upgrade paths for Japanese A/C, Sen 2, Be... - 3/4/2015 1:27:51 PM   
el lobo


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Chickenboy

Hi el lobo,

I sent you the attachment a short while ago by email. Hope that helps.


Got it. Thanks again.

quote:

As for the AARs, thanks! It's been forever since I've updated any of them though...


That's OK by me as I have a lot of catching-up to do on my reading.

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RE: A list of upgrade paths for Japanese A/C, Sen 2, Be... - 3/4/2015 1:33:37 PM   
el lobo


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Thanks to all above.

I started working on my production system starting with aircraft and engines and after reading a few threads decided that I needed the information requested above to get my bearings.

Below are some of the threads I have discovered so far. I will keep searching but suggestions are welcome. Not all of these refer to Scen #2 or PDU = On, but all contain gems of information.

Japanese Production Primer by Numdydar
http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=3329605
A must read for all JFBs.

Japan AC upgrade chart UPDATED 4/3/11 1845 EST by Hanzberger
http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=2769286&mpage=1&key=?
A great flow- (wire) chart. Note that on a post at or near the end of that thread I attached a PDF of his same chart for Scen #2.

R&D Aircraft Factory Questions
http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=3792580

Initial Japanese factory damage
http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=3350910&mpage=1&key=

Food for thoughts - new Pbem match with PDU-OFF and RnD ON
http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=3578519&mpage=1&key=upgrade%2Cpath

Japanese R&D with PDU OFF
http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=3689727&mpage=1&key=upgrade%2Cpath%2Cpaths

Another JFB question (getting Maebashi and Gigu to produce)
http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=3592403&mpage=1&key=japanese%2Cproduction%2Cprimer�

Plus a bunch of AARs.

Also attached here is a quick and dirty spread sheet (to be fleshed-out by the user) with the a/c upgrade paths, and a PDF of the same, thanks to Tracker. These have a .txt extension as the forum engine does not support the attachment of s/s or pdf extensions. Change the extensions to the one capitalized in the file name. The s/s is .ods which is Open Office.

[ aircraft air craft air-craft airframe air frame air-frame upgrade up-grade path paths production ]


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RE: A list of upgrade paths for Japanese A/C, Sen 2, Be... - 3/4/2015 1:35:43 PM   
el lobo


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Looks like you can only attach one file per post.

The PDF.

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