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Extreme Shakturi LP w/ AI Improvement Mod (YouTube) - 1/23/2015 5:03:49 PM   
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Greetings everyone!

I have just posted a preliminary episode for a new Youtube series I'm planning to get started on shortly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yY63JdhqZLs

This series will feature Icemania's AI Improvement Mod (1.04) with the Shakturi Story Lines enabled.

For this initial episode, I have reviewed all the settings I plan to use for the series. Let me know in the comments (or here) what you think and be sure to make any suggestions on the game setup I've outlined. Series should officially kick off sometime in the last week of January 2015. 

This should be fun (with a side order of painful!)...

EDIT: Here is the playlist for the series:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLzEZx9zuF9_72YvlL3PAVuyrvzC9GHivx

EDIT EDIT: Here are the game settings....

Galaxy: Spiral
Stars: 1400
Size 15x15

Expansion: PreWarp
Aggression: Restless
Difficulty: Extreme (No scaling near victory)

Research: Expensive (240k)
Space Creatures: Many
Pirates: Very Few, Weak, Nearby (No Respawn)

Colony Prevalence: Normal
Independent Alien Life: Rare
Colony Influeunce Range: 106%
Enforce Colonization Range Limit: 1.50 Sectors

Race: Human
Empire Name: United Earth Federation

Galaxy Starting Location: Outer Core
Home System: Excellent
Size: Starting
Tech Level: PreWarp
Corruption: Normal
Government: Military Dictatorship

Other Empires: 19 (6 Average Distance, 13 Distant)
Independent Colonies allowed to become Full Empires

Victory Conditions: 95% of 90%/90%/90%
All Story events enabled - including the Return of the Shakturi
Tech Trading Allowed
Giant Kaltors Allowed


< Message edited by StarLab -- 1/28/2015 8:43:45 PM >


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RE: Extreme Shakturi LP w/ AI Improvement Mod (YouTube) - 1/24/2015 12:38:50 AM   
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This is going to be great! I'll comment frequently over on Youtube, sounds like some advice maybe needed along the way ... !

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RE: Extreme Shakturi LP w/ AI Improvement Mod (YouTube) - 1/24/2015 2:49:07 PM   
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It will be great to have you along. Advice & Suggestions are always welcome.

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RE: Extreme Shakturi LP w/ AI Improvement Mod (YouTube) - 1/28/2015 2:11:04 AM   
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I'll be recording the first official episode tomorrow morning (Jan 28). Any suggestions on game setup and Empire Name will have to be submitted by then. (Although I think I have the settings pretty much nailed down for the series at this point...)

Hope to see many people in the comment sections... This should be interesting...

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RE: Extreme Shakturi LP w/ AI Improvement Mod (YouTube) - 1/28/2015 7:31:31 PM   
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And... we're off!

Distant Worlds - Extreme Shakturi - [1/2] Ep001 - Official Startup

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RE: Extreme Shakturi LP w/ AI Improvement Mod (YouTube) - 2/3/2015 3:21:30 AM   
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Awesome stuff keep it going!!

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RE: Extreme Shakturi LP w/ AI Improvement Mod (YouTube) - 2/8/2015 1:42:35 PM   
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You've got a really good game going here Larry.

Did you play up to the Shakturi during your test games so you know what the improved version looks like?

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RE: Extreme Shakturi LP w/ AI Improvement Mod (YouTube) - 2/8/2015 1:44:04 PM   
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BTW, looks like I'll have to get more of the AI to target the Bakuras Shipyards!

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RE: Extreme Shakturi LP w/ AI Improvement Mod (YouTube) - 2/8/2015 2:08:34 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Icemania

You've got a really good game going here Larry.

Did you play up to the Shakturi during your test games so you know what the improved version looks like?


No, I just played the first 20-25 game years in my test games... just enough to see my immediate surroundings, etc. I purposely didn't play any further than that. So the new improved Shakturi will likely scare the living crap out of me when I get to see them. LOL


quote:

ORIGINAL: Icemania

BTW, looks like I'll have to get more of the AI to target the Bakuras Shipyards!


Man! I gotta stop publishing videos! (j/k) Every time I see a quick path or exploit, devs and modders patch it out! LOL


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RE: Extreme Shakturi LP w/ AI Improvement Mod (YouTube) - 2/15/2015 12:49:57 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: StarLab

quote:

ORIGINAL: Icemania

You've got a really good game going here Larry.

Did you play up to the Shakturi during your test games so you know what the improved version looks like?


No, I just played the first 20-25 game years in my test games... just enough to see my immediate surroundings, etc. I purposely didn't play any further than that. So the new improved Shakturi will likely scare the living crap out of me when I get to see them. LOL





Okay dude trust me here you will REALLY need a World Destroyer for the Shakturi homeworld ... and a diversion ... in a likely act of pure desperation. It doesn't matter if you are down to your last planet, you just need to snipe their homeworld.




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RE: Extreme Shakturi LP w/ AI Improvement Mod (YouTube) - 2/17/2015 6:16:15 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Icemania

quote:

ORIGINAL: StarLab

quote:

ORIGINAL: Icemania

You've got a really good game going here Larry.

Did you play up to the Shakturi during your test games so you know what the improved version looks like?


No, I just played the first 20-25 game years in my test games... just enough to see my immediate surroundings, etc. I purposely didn't play any further than that. So the new improved Shakturi will likely scare the living crap out of me when I get to see them. LOL





Okay dude trust me here you will REALLY need a World Destroyer for the Shakturi homeworld ... and a diversion ... in a likely act of pure desperation. It doesn't matter if you are down to your last planet, you just need to snipe their homeworld.


Sniping their HomeWorld is the only way I've won against them. Mind you, I rarely play that story line these days. Good thing too as I'm enjoying the fresh approach to the game as a good change from the usual.

New episode coming today. Just waiting for the final render to finish. I'm still alive!


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RE: Extreme Shakturi LP w/ AI Improvement Mod (YouTube) - 2/28/2015 7:30:40 AM   
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This is the second extended delay so I hope everything is okay Larry?

To be honest with you it's difficult to stay interested in such a disjointed series.


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RE: Extreme Shakturi LP w/ AI Improvement Mod (YouTube) - 3/21/2015 9:14:08 AM   
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It's been a month now Larry, I hope everything is ok?

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RE: Extreme Shakturi LP w/ AI Improvement Mod (YouTube) - 3/21/2015 8:38:31 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Sithuk

It's been a month now Larry, I hope everything is ok?


Hopefully the problem is simply that Icemania's mod has given him a good hiding.

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RE: Extreme Shakturi LP w/ AI Improvement Mod (YouTube) - 6/8/2015 12:03:20 PM   
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Hey everyone.

Sorry for the sudden silence. Everything is fine. I just haven't been around the computer much lately and that likely won't change for the duration of the summer. Been travelling/camping on my bicycle and it's been hard to slow down long enough to even play any games - let alone record anything.

Also, my ISP is still crap. My last attempt to upload to YT saw less than 5kb/s so I still have to deal with that. I'll be upgrading my ISP but will be waiting for the Fall before I do that as it will be an added monthly expense for something I likely won't be using for the next several months.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Icemania

This is the second extended delay so I hope everything is okay Larry?

To be honest with you it's difficult to stay interested in such a disjointed series.



Agreed. This is why I figured I'll just wait for the Fall to continue - very hard to follow with sporadic episodes. I know long breaks like this are pretty much YouTube suicide but I will be back eventually.

Thanks to everyone who followed to this point. See you all soon! (eventually?!?)


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RE: Extreme Shakturi LP w/ AI Improvement Mod (YouTube) - 6/8/2015 8:30:07 PM   
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Nice to have you back, and we will be patient as we wait(again) for your ISP to improve. You had many of us worried. So my advise to you is; DON'T EVER DO THAT AGAIN!!

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RE: Extreme Shakturi LP w/ AI Improvement Mod (YouTube) - 6/9/2015 5:16:41 AM   
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I bought this game after stumbling across your DWU let's plays. Had fun watching them and learned quite a bit. Enjoy the outdoors!

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RE: Extreme Shakturi LP w/ AI Improvement Mod (YouTube) - 6/9/2015 11:11:55 AM   
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quote:

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Nice to have you back, and we will be patient as we wait(again) for your ISP to improve. You had many of us worried. So my advise to you is; DON'T EVER DO THAT AGAIN!!


My bad...

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I bought this game after stumbling across your DWU let's plays. Had fun watching them and learned quite a bit. Enjoy the outdoors!


I am indeed enjoying the outdoors. (See attached for my luxury accommodations...)




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RE: Extreme Shakturi LP w/ AI Improvement Mod (YouTube) - 6/11/2015 9:48:33 AM   
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So good to hear from Starlab! Agree with Fishers of Men, you had us worried ...

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RE: Extreme Shakturi LP w/ AI Improvement Mod (YouTube) - 6/11/2015 8:54:07 PM   
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quote:

I am indeed enjoying the outdoors. (See attached for my luxury accommodations...)

As per your play throughs... It looks like you have the outdoors set on "Extreme" difficulty!
When my two boys get older, I would love to do the same.

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RE: Extreme Shakturi LP w/ AI Improvement Mod (YouTube) - 6/12/2015 12:13:49 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: accolade

quote:

I am indeed enjoying the outdoors. (See attached for my luxury accommodations...)

As per your play throughs... It looks like you have the outdoors set on "Extreme" difficulty!


If the Shakturi show up... I'm outta there!

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RE: Extreme Shakturi LP w/ AI Improvement Mod (YouTube) - 6/13/2015 1:32:30 AM   
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Hi Larry,

I rode 1000's of miles on bike my over the years (have skin cancer as a reward), but never camped out. Shakturi in the form of insects may show up, hope not any of the stinging variety.

Get back to gaming soon.

Ken

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RE: Extreme Shakturi LP w/ AI Improvement Mod (YouTube) - 6/20/2015 12:26:06 PM   
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Good to see you're alive larry! Look forward to when you come back to continue this shakturi lets play!

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RE: Extreme Shakturi LP w/ AI Improvement Mod (YouTube) - 6/24/2015 11:03:42 PM   
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good to see you back really enjoy your lets plays

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RE: Extreme Shakturi LP w/ AI Improvement Mod (YouTube) - 1/28/2017 8:26:18 PM   
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So, yeah... after 2 years I'm back at it. 15,000 bike-riding kilometers later. I've picked up again if anyone still cares to follow. If not that's cool too. :)

Handy Linkie to playlist...

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLzEZx9zuF9_72YvlL3PAVuyrvzC9GHivx

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RE: Extreme Shakturi LP w/ AI Improvement Mod (YouTube) - 1/29/2017 5:44:53 AM   
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Regarding your comment in the video about why you weren't inclined to steal the Very High Thrust Engines tech:
I don't know how things are in the mod that you're playing, but in the unmodded game the unupgraded StarBurner is one of the best sublight drive components in the game. Aside from the upgraded versions of the StarBurner, the only drive thruster components which outperform the unupgraded StarBurner per unit size invested into sublight drive thrusters in the unmodded game are the fully-upgraded Acceleros Engine, the fully-upgraded Vortex Engine, and the fully-upgraded TurboThruster if going by maximum attainable sprint speed, or only the fully-upgraded Vortex Engine and fully-upgraded TurboThruster if going by maximum attainable cruise speed. Since the fully-upgraded Vortex and Acceleros Engines are all the way at the end of the sublight drive thruster branch of the Energy and Construction tree, it may very well be worth your while to steal the Very High Thrust Engines tech from the Sluken even if you never acquire the upgrades.

You can fairly easily get an idea of the relative quality of the various drive thruster components by computing the specific thrust of each component, i.e. the rated thrust of the component divided by the size of the component. Multiplying the specific thrust by the size fraction given over to sublight drive thrusters on the ship gives you the design speed of the vessel (use specific max thrust for sprint speed and specific cruise thrust for cruise speed), so thruster components with higher specific thrust can achieve higher speeds for a given investment of size or require less size to attain a given speed.


Regarding how the bonuses for species within the empire are calculated:
Firstly, if you can get the same type of bonus from multiple species, be aware that only the one which currently offers the best bonus counts. If you have both Humans and Ketarovs in your empire, you'll get the espionage bonus from at most one of them, not both. Secondly, the only bonuses which can show up in the Diplomacy and Government screens are the empire-wide bonuses (Espionage, Colony Income, Research, Mining Rate, and probably a few others that I'm forgetting at the moment). A few of the species bonuses (Colony Happiness and War Weariness, maybe some others) will apply to any colony which has a sufficiently large population of the species which grants the bonus and will never be applied to colonies which do not have a sufficiently large population of that species.

Non-founding species can begin to provide empire-wide bonuses once the species makes up at least 1% of your empire's total population and will give the full bonus listed in the species description once the species makes up at least 20% of the total population of the empire. I believe that the bonus you get while the species makes up between 1% and 20% of the empire's total population is (percentage of the empire's population)/20% * (maximum bonus), though there may be some rounding involved.

I am not completely certain, but the one and only time I checked, it looked like the founding species of your empire will provide its full bonus for as long as the founding species makes up at least 10% of the total population of the empire, and will provide a scaled-back bonus for as long as the species makes up more than 0.5% of the total imperial population. I am also pretty sure that certain bonuses, such as the Ackdarian bonus to maximum military ship size, cannot be lost even if the founding species somehow becomes extinct within the empire.


Also, an anecdote on ship design: I once ran a test which pitted two ships of approximately the same size against one another. One ship, let's call it Ship A, was size-407, had an armament of 8 unupgraded Epsilon Torpedoes and 16 unupgraded Maxos Blasters, was protected by 5 plates of Standard Armor and 5 unupgraded Corvidian Shield Generators, and had a sprint/cruise speed of 16/10. The other ship, let's call it Ship B, was size-406, had an armament of 3 unupgraded Epsilon Torpedoes and 6 unupgraded Maxos Blasters, was protected by 10 plates of Standard Armor and 12 Corvidian Shield Generators, and had a sprint/cruise speed of 34/21 or something like that. Both ships were powered by unupgraded NovaCore Reactors and propelled by unupgraded TurboThrusters. On the default engagement settings, Ship B destroyed Ship A before Ship A could break ship B's shields; when Ship B's engagement stance was set to "all weapons" vs stronger opponents, Ship B failed to penetrate Ship A's shields prior to being destroyed. Just something interesting to think about when contemplating a war against a numerically-superior, and possibly technologically-superior, opponent.

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RE: Extreme Shakturi LP w/ AI Improvement Mod (YouTube) - 1/29/2017 11:03:40 AM   
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First off, thanks for the reply. You've spent a great deal of time with the math in this game. You remind me of a viewer (Xak?) who would offer similar insight in my other Extreme series... I appreciate that as I tend to push forward rather than contemplate the numbers too heavily - likely my biggest failing and certain death on Extreme settings. Plus, as of right now I've barely touched this game in 2 years and have forgotten a lot of the finer points - especially numbers... (I'm an old fart, ya know! LOL)

Racial Tech - Yes, definitely worth stealing. I know the AI Mod touched most of the tech in the game, but I believe sub light engines remain close to vanilla but I could be wrong. Certainly no staggering differences, at least. But yes, the first level of StarBurners outperform all other engines until about level 5 or 6 techs in other types. The improvements... pretty much the best in the game, I think!? I was distracted trying to play "catch up" on the other stuff...

Species Bonuses - Never stopped to think about this too heavily - got a bonus? Cool... Move on! I know species populations on planets affect the local planets but not necessarily the empire as a whole. Building Colony Ships is a good example as the prominent species dictates which type of planets the ship can settle. If another species out-populates the original, colony ships will adjust accordingly.
I know there was a viewer asking about this in the comments... I will link them to this thread. Great explanation! Thanks!

My reluctance to spend too much time with the math of this game is likely my biggest downfall. But at the same time, I think viewers new to the game appreciate I don't dive too heavily into it. I know some have learned the basics of the game from me and some have now moved on to their own channels and have improved greatly on what I have shown them. I have, in turn, learned a few things from them. Experienced players like yourself likely have OCD fits trying to watch what I do!

Thanks for watching and taking the time here. You seem to be all over this forum with your insight and it is greatly appreciated. You are an asset to this great game and community.

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