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out of memory problem in 3.2 - 2/24/2003 12:56:57 PM   
Jo van der Pluym


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In version 3.2 have I the following problem. I received the error out of memory by the following Items.

1. If I will look to a Squadron on a Carrier.

2. If I will look to a Squadron as passenger on board of Cargoships/AV's

3. If I will look to a LCU as passenger on board of AP's etc.


I have a 450 Mhz Pendium III, 128 MB Memory and us windows 98.

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- 2/24/2003 4:24:18 PM   
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You will need as much conventional memory in your DOS-Box as possible
How much conventional memory do you have there ?

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- 2/24/2003 10:59:45 PM   
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Denniss
[B]You will need as much conventional memory in your DOS-Box as possible
How much conventional memory do you have there ? [/B][/QUOTE]

I have as conventional memory 640

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- 2/25/2003 12:19:26 AM   
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Sorry - I meant free conventional memory = available for programs to use

Pacwar needs at least 580KB if I remember correct

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- 2/25/2003 1:15:57 AM   
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Denniss
[B]Sorry - I meant free conventional memory = available for programs to use

Pacwar needs at least 580KB if I remember correct [/B][/QUOTE]



This was I forgot. I start the game up from Windows. And I have all memory is on AUTO in the pif file.

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- 2/25/2003 3:16:24 AM   
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Try this: from Windows, open a DOS command window and type:

MEM /C |MORE

(Note the |MORE part just pauses the screen before the messages scroll past the top of the window.) This should tell you how much free DOS memory you have, as well as identifying the major modules that are using memory. Pay special attention to the "largest executable progam size" number towards the end.

BTW, I am of the opinion that the latest versions of Pacific War take even more memory than the 580K demanded by the original. Exactly how much, I don't think anybody knows.

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- 2/25/2003 4:02:25 AM   
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Denniss
[B]Sorry - I meant free conventional memory = available for programs to use

Pacwar needs at least 580KB if I remember correct [/B][/QUOTE]

I've set all memory rolls at maximum and it still useless...
(WinMe)

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out of memory problem in 3.2 - 2/25/2003 2:25:50 PM   
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Actually, pacwar has required 600K for the last few editions.

The problem with 9x including ME is EMM386. This is a pretty much useless, even very few DOS games use ems.

First thing, is check how much free memory you have (type mem at a dos prompt), with ME I doubt you'll get much better than 580.

To fix things, go to "Run" and type msconfig and hit enter. Be careful in here, you can really screw things up. Go to the config.sys tab, and you should see a line, probably the second one, that says "DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\EMM386.EXE" with a box with a check mark in it. Click on it to get rid of the checkmark.

Click on ok, then reboot.

Now check your mem at a dos prompt-- you should get 600K free. Pacware should now run from windows with no errors, with mouse support and everything, and no need to reboot to a dos start or vainly otherwise fiddle with a pif, or anything else painful. If you have a really really old dos program it might not run though. But this is pretty unlikely.

Hope that helps.

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a final solution ... - 2/25/2003 4:37:55 PM   
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It is really hard to run any old DOS game under some latest Windows configurations. It is caused by the tendency to run all the stupid pop up programs (antivirs, track erasers, winamps, shcedules etc.) in Windows. They do consume a lot of conventional memory.

The best solution is to :

- remove all the autostart programs (but anyway it doesn't help sometimes - Windows consumes MANY resources), and make some changes in autoexec and config.sys files
- make Yourself a bootdisk to be used by old dos games/programs
- run the system in dos mode and manually (or using Norton / Windows Commander) launch the game

the last one takes some time but makes game more pleasant

Do not forget to launch mouse.com (mouse driver) if You want the mouse to be active, althrough I am never using it in Pacific War.

If You want to have a bootdisk (on a floppy) let me know. I'll tell You how to do it.

Good Luck !
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solution - 2/26/2003 2:43:14 AM   
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I have find two solutions that by my work.

1. To start windows in the safe mode.

2. Made a pif file for playing the game in the Dos mode with as config.sys configuration the following

DOS=HIGH,UMB
Device=C:\WINDOWS\Himem.Sys
DeviceHigh=C:\WINDOWS\EMM386.Exe NOEMS
Device=C:\windows\command\mouse.exe


I thank you all for youre help.

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:( - 2/27/2003 3:46:37 AM   
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Looks like it's much easyer to loadup from floppy...

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Re: solution - 4/30/2003 10:56:05 PM   
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Jo van der Pluym
[B]I have find two solutions that by my work.

1. To start windows in the safe mode.

2. Made a pif file for playing the game in the Dos mode with as config.sys configuration the following

DOS=HIGH,UMB
Device=C:\WINDOWS\Himem.Sys
DeviceHigh=C:\WINDOWS\EMM386.Exe NOEMS
Device=C:\windows\command\mouse.exe


I thank you all for youre help. [/B][/QUOTE]

Jo,
I have tried your memory fix (#2). All works well with no out of memory messages. The only problem is the mouse does'nt work. Have I missed something?
Thanks
Bruce

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Re: Re: solution - 5/1/2003 1:26:22 AM   
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by brucertx
[B]Jo,
I have tried your memory fix (#2). All works well with no out of memory messages. The only problem is the mouse does'nt work. Have I missed something?
Thanks
Bruce [/B][/QUOTE]

Bruce

I think the following. I have the pif the following line.
[B]Device=C:\windows\command\mouse.exe[/B]

Now there are 2 things.
1. You have a another mousedriver
2. Or you must change the path.

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Re: Re: Re: solution - 5/3/2003 1:12:51 AM   
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Jo van der Pluym
[B]Bruce

I think the following. I have the pif the following line.
[B]Device=C:\windows\command\mouse.exe[/B]

Now there are 2 things.
1. You have a another mousedriver
2. Or you must change the path. [/B][/QUOTE]

Thanks Jo,
All I have to do is figure out what mouse driver I have and where it is.
Bruce

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