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RE: 5-6 Oct 43 - 2/11/2018 12:14:35 AM   
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7 carriers and only 2 CLAAs and 7 DDs escorts, it is vulnerable to a surface TF attack or airstrike with no heavy units to be the bomb catch.

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RE: 5-6 Oct 43 - 2/11/2018 7:02:27 PM   
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7 carriers and only 2 CLAAs and 7 DDs escorts, it is vulnerable to a surface TF attack or airstrike with no heavy units to be the bomb catch.


Yeah, I noticed that - probably because he knows my CVs aren't around. Figure he'll have a BB or two when the CVs clash.

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RE: 5-6 Oct 43 - 2/11/2018 7:06:21 PM   
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Other than that CV TF, does he have enough other CVs to pose a serious threat in the Andaman area?



He's missing Kaga, Agaki, and two Katsuragi types by my count. Figure they're out near the Malacca Straits keeping watch. Of course, they could be refitting too. Or my PBYs haven't picked them up in the Eastern DEI.


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7-8 Oct 43 - 2/13/2018 10:09:20 PM   
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7-8 Oct 43

Highlights – Combined Fleet looks to be heading for a raid on Darwin!

Jpn ships sunk:
DD: 1 (Akatsuki)

Jpn ships un-sunk:
SS: 1 (I-39)

Allied ships sunk: None

Air loss:
Jpn: 67
Allied: 28

Subwar:
Jpn: 2 Attacks, 0 ships hit
Allies: 1 Attack, 0 ships hit

Jpn Amph Inv: None

Allied Amph: None

Bases lost: None

Bases Liberated:
Prome (Burma)
Damar (SWPAC)

SIGINT/Intel: Combined Fleet comes out of Koepang and looks to be heading to Darwin likely with the BB Musashi TF out front to bombard. CVs in support with numerous Judys out searching.

West Coast/Admin: CV Bunker Hill arrives at Balboa, and with two CVLs will head to Pearl to provide a CV presence in the Pacific.

In NOPAC, NSTR.

In CENPAC, assault shipping with CVEs in support remain at Kwaj taking off troops. Will remain busy shuttling troops in CENPAC for a bit. No sign of IJN activity.

In SOPAC, Hansa Bay Amph and supporting TFs enroute to New Hannover Island where they will be joined by transports carrying engineers from Buka and Torokina. Bombers rest in preparation for supporting the Hansa Bay landings. Bombers out of Merauke hit Hollandia with good effect; no CAP and about 10 planes destroyed on the ground along with a big AK set afire in the harbor without any friendly loss. Heavies will hit the base again next turn - goal is more to prevent expanding forts than anything else.

In SWPAC, Combined Fleet didn’t stay in Koepang long; looks to be a major effort aimed at Darwin in progress. Looks to be BB Musashi TF heading to bombard or disrupt shipping in the Darwin area, with the KB supporting - numerous Judy searches splashed by CAP - about 25 or so - gives good indication of the KB at sea. Allied defense of the Darwin area will resemble the climatic scene from “In Harm’s Way”, the classic John Wayne Naval film epic - trying to stop the Yamato class BB TF with PTs, mines and cruisers. 3 PT squadrons of 8 boats each, 3 destroyer squadrons of 6 ships each supporting a CA TF (2CA, 3CL, 6DD) will defend the anchorage which is bolstered by about 300 mines and some coast defense guns. Lots of light ships to wear down the behemoth and eat up OPs points so perhaps LBA can get a few strikes in. Darwin and Bathurst have robust fighter CAP, and have moved strike aircraft down to Fenton - 2 squadrons of SBDs and TBFs plus some army strike a/c with about 80 fighters. Not nearly enough to strike the KB, but perhaps can hit some damaged cruisers following the night time naval action. In any case, I fully expect much carnage if L_S_T pushes on to Darwin. Then again, he could pull off and hit Bathurst or Babar Is - but his track is towards Darwin now. Lastly, US Paras seized the small isle of Damar off Babar - solely due to my recon spotting something in the port, which turned out to be the DD Akatsuki which was then scuttled. Apparently was crippled by mines off Babar and was pumping out. So paras sink a DD! Nice!

In China, NSTR.

In Burma, Prome is occupied. Again, surprised even a token delaying force wasn’t left behind to make use of the level 4 forts. The real question is whether or not Rangoon will be similarly abandoned…?? On the Lashio front, Allied troops push east towards Paoshan, driving an RTA Bde out of the way. I will need more troops here - one Indian Division will continue to drive east into the mountains, but the other Indian Division will head north towards Bhamo as the IJA defenders from Lashio have pulled back here and are trying to transit across into the mountains. If they get into the mountains intact, they will be much tougher to dislodge - out of supply or not. So the US 27th ID will come up from Prome to provide the extra firepower if necessary. That’s a long haul, but the division needs some time to build back up anyway. On the Pegu front, still repositioning and moving troops to renew the attack against the estimated divisional sized blocking force in the jungles NNE of Pegu. Will also look to renew the attack on Taung Gyi shortly which will expand the flanking capabilities in the attack to clear Burma.

In the IO, NSTR.





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RE: 7-8 Oct 43 - 2/14/2018 1:53:05 AM   
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Heh, nice touch that your paras got a DD. Sweet!

In Harm's Way is a great movie, one I really love to watch. Here's to hoping you are victorious as John Wayne was, though hopefully not as badly banged up, to say nothing of losing your flagship!

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RE: 7-8 Oct 43 - 2/15/2018 5:14:56 PM   
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In Harm's Way is a great movie, one I really love to watch. Here's to hoping you are victorious as John Wayne was, though hopefully not as badly banged up, to say nothing of losing your flagship!


Really loved that movie growing up - a bit dated now perhaps. Culminating naval battle was awesome back in the day! Got me building bigger and bigger naval ship models!

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9-10 Oct 43 - 2/15/2018 5:21:54 PM   
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Highlights – Combined Fleet goes to Babar, not Darwin!

Jpn ships sunk:
DD: 3 (Akigumo, Natsugumo, Sawakaze)
SS: 1 (I-39)
E: 1
PB: 1
AK: 1
xAKL: 1

Allied ships sunk:
PT: 2

Air loss:
Jpn: 109
Allied: 26

Subwar:
Jpn: 2 Attacks, 0 ships hit
Allies: 9 Attacks, 5 ships hit (2DD, E sunk, TK, xAKL dam; also….CV Katsuragi and CA Atago missed! So now we’re hitting DDs and missing capital ships!!!)

Jpn Amph Inv: None

Allied Amph: None

Bases lost: None

Bases Liberated: None

SIGINT/Intel: Combined Fleet heads to Babar, then on to Ambon. I’m confused….

West Coast/Admin: NSTR.

In NOPAC, NSTR.

In CENPAC, NSTR.

In SOPAC, Hansa Bay Amph and supporting TFs reach New Hannover Island to stage. Will go into Hansa Bay next turn, will all LBA in support. This one will be a bit dicey - nearest airbase is Wau at 5 hexes, and a few at 6 hexes to provide support. That’s potentially a long way for continued LRCAP if this becomes a prolonged fight. Fortunately, I know where the Combined Fleet is at (Ambon), and it will take a few turns to transit to northern New Guinea if L_S_T decides to heavily counter. I don’t think this is likely at this point. After Hansa, will likely land on Umboi Is to clear a direct route along the New Guinea coast. Two Army divisions are fully prepped with support.

In SWPAC, well….L_S_T has me guessing here. Sure looked like Darwin was about to feel the wrath of the entire Combined Fleet. Instead, the fleet headed to Babar. Heavy synch bug, so I didn’t see everything. From what I pieced together from the combat reports, three TFs bombarded Babar in succession (3CA, CL, DDs / 2BB, 3CA, DDs / 3BB, 4CA, CL, DDs) which didn’t do much - damaged the port and inflicted less than 200 casualties with no major supply losses. Mines hit two DDs, one later sunk by subs, the other (Michishio) heavily damaged. The fleet then proceeded towards Ambon, with US subs picking off two DDs and missing a CV and CA. Also during the night, PTs sortied away from Babar to intercept a barge convoy contact heading toward towards Saumlaki from the north. PTs did great, intercepting at Molu, ripping through the convoy sinking a PB and a few barges (a few 40mm gun PTs do great work against barges!). Best of all some 400+ IJA troops were lost. Will attempt to intercept the return run next turn as well. In daylight, Jpn CV airstrikes hit Babar (no CAP) and Bathurst Is (heavy CAP). CAP over Bathurst does very well, about 50 Zeros, 18 Judys and 3 Jills lost to 3 P-39s, and a pair of P-40Ks. Didn’t see any of that with the synch bug! So now the IJN looks to be concentrated at Ambon again. Koepang is reportedly empty. The other side of Timor, at the Dili/Lautem side a CVE TF is reportedly located. Perhaps protecting an unlocated convoy? Will send a DD squadron out of Darwin to “investigate”. Will also send a DD squadron up towards Molu to catch that barge convoy the PTs rumbled with last turn. I doubt I’ll catch either, but its worth a shot. So, L_S_T sure has me guessing and scratching my head in the Banda Sea here. He’s sortied the Combined fleet to Koepang and back - just to rough up Babar? With ships concentrated here - and fuel expended - I’d expect at least a counter landing or a major disruptive effort at my staging base - Darwin or Bathurst. Maybe its still coming, but each time the KB sorties, the subs get another chance.

In China, another major attack at Chungking is held. 1-2 odds don’t reduce the forts and cost the IJA 16k casualties in exchange for 4600 Chinese. Again, lots of IJA engineers killed off which should buy time. I’m sure L_S_T will try again in a month or so, and in the mean time I can’t do anything to prevent another attempt. Still, with holding off these last two attacks - and most importantly, keeping the forts intact - my confidence is slowly growing that perhaps Chungking will hold??!!
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Ground combat at Chungking (76,45)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 128108 troops, 1383 guns, 1615 vehicles, Assault Value = 3895

Defending force 132703 troops, 443 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3160

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 4

Japanese adjusted assault: 5443

Allied adjusted defense: 9463

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 4)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), preparation(-), experience(-)
supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
16237 casualties reported
Squads: 42 destroyed, 1012 disabled
Non Combat: 112 destroyed, 237 disabled
Engineers: 176 destroyed, 178 disabled
Guns lost 68 (1 destroyed, 67 disabled)
Vehicles lost 295 (38 destroyed, 257 disabled)
Units destroyed 1

Allied ground losses:
4650 casualties reported
Squads: 15 destroyed, 241 disabled
Non Combat: 22 destroyed, 133 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Guns lost 28 (2 destroyed, 26 disabled)
Units destroyed 1


In Burma, troops continue to slowly advance and reposition. Looks to be about 2 IJA (or RTA) divisions cut off north of Lashio and towards Myitkyina. IJA attack to “relieve” Myitkyina was held off by a Chinese Division and a division sized mixed force of US, Indian and Brit Bdes will attack Myitkyina next turn. Chinese troops will also attempt another push west of Paoshan against the IJA Mixed Bde defending in the mountain passes. Although being hit by Heavies for about a week, I don’t expect this attack to succeed. I’m also flying in a refitted Chinese Division from Ledo to Lashio to bolster the effort here. On the Rangoon front, nothing exciting - just shuttling troops as the IJA looks to be pulling out. May have enough troops to renew the attack towards Pegu in the next turn or so.

In the IO, no sign of the IJN coming out to disrupt the troop shuttling in the Andamans. Will start to move a Bde to Trinkat and pull troops off in the coming turns. That’s when I expect IJN CVs to come calling if any are left in the Malacca Straits area.





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RE: 9-10 Oct 43 - 2/15/2018 7:15:05 PM   
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So now [subs are] hitting DDs and missing capital ships!!!


In fairness, weren't those the DDs that hit mines? Basically, subs act like vultures and feast on the cripples even though a fantastic banquet is available for the taking elsewhere.

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11-12 Oct 43 - 2/18/2018 5:22:16 PM   
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Highlights – Hansa Bay Amphib goes in; US DDs catch CVE TF at Lautem!

Jpn ships sunk:
BB: 1 (Fuso - replaces Haruna on “sunk list” from Little Andaman Battle in Jul43)
AK: 1
YO: 1

Jpn ships un-sunk:
BB: 1 (Haruna)

Allied ships sunk: None

Air loss:
Jpn: 73
Allied: 26

Subwar:
Jpn: 1 Attacks, 1 ships hit (xAK sunk)
Allies: 1 Attacks, 0 ships hit

Jpn Amph Inv: None

Allied Amph:
Hansa Bay (SOPAC)

Bases lost: None

Bases Liberated:
Myitkyina (Burma)

SIGINT/Intel: Combined Fleet remains at Ambon

West Coast/Admin: NSTR.

In NOPAC, NSTR.

In CENPAC, assault shipping begins concentrating at Tabit for the Ponape landings. Venturas hit Jaluit to keep it “surpressed” while the Heavies rest.

In SOPAC, Hansa Bay Amph and supporting TFs reach Hansa Bay and commence Amphib ops. Wash BB TF bombards, no mines or daylight air encountered. Naval bombardment inflicts almost 400 casualties on the defenders which is based around a Naval Guard Unit, which is also pounded by LBA. 37th ID will attack next turn, and should take the base without too many casualties. Amph TF will largely withdraw, as will the Wash BB TF as all combat troops are ashore. A small follow on Amph TF will remain, supported by a DD TF and Minesweepers. Although only a few Jakes hit the TFs off Hansa Bay at night last turn (and were disrupted by PV-1N Ventura night fighters on LRCAP), I expect a heavy air raid next turn, and LRCAP is always challenged to provide an effective umbrella. Elsewhere, the IJA’s 38th ID has apparently moved into Salamaua, which fortunately still has two Allied Bdes defending it. The three other Allied Bdes that were engaging the 38th, will now have to slog through the jungle to catch up which will take at least a week or more. I hate the way land movement/combat works in this game!

In SWPAC, the US DD raids come up with some success, but not as good as it could have been. Arleigh Burke’s 6 Fletcher DDs draws heavy LBA attention as it headed toward Timor - even strafing/low naval attack Zeros (that were likely set to hit a barge or PT convoy to Babar). Fortunately I had set a squadron of Corsairs, P-38s and P-40s to provide LRCAP. Between the LRCAP and good AA, the Jpn fliers suffered heavily: 38 Zeros and 15 Jills for 3 P-40Ks. Burke continues to Lautem and on the second night intercepts the CVE TF rumored to be there. While all three CVEs were hit by gunfire, none seemed to seriously damaged and not a single torp found its mark. One US DD (Claxton) will have to head for repairs from two 5” hits. While a successful intercept, it was more of a missed opportunity to inflict better damage. Hoped for more from the Fletchers who were well led. US crew experience is still much less than desired (still in the 50s on average). The other DD flotilla (Mooseberger) also intercepted its target - this time the barge convoy near Molu -and somehow the barge convoy evaded combat! Another missed opportunity! But PTs out of Babar did intercept, but this time only a single barge was sunk in a brief engagement. After two days of engagements, I’m not sure if these barges were reinforcing or pulling troops out of Saumlaki. Next turn will try a Fast Transport convoy of 2DD and 4 APDs into Babar bringing in the lead elements of an Air Adv Baseforce to begin air operations shortly at Babar. The damage from the previous naval bombardments has been fully repaired, and the AF should be completed in a few days if the IJN stays away.

In China, NSTR.

In Burma, it looks like the IJA is hastily pulling out of Burma, including Rangoon! This is a big surprise, I expected a firm holding/delaying action at Rangoon/Pegu at least. But all indications are all IJA troops are pulling out - and faster than Allied troops can advance. So on the Rangoon Front, Allied troops will begin moving towards Rangoon from Prome, and I don’t expect contact till they actually reach Rangoon, if they don’t find it abandoned by then. On the Pegu front, Allied troops will attack the delaying position in the jungle next turn with about 3 Divisions worth of troops against the estimated Div plus holding up the advance. Should be a tough fight! On the Taung Gyi front, a Gurka Bde cut the main road from Taung Gyi to Pegu which forces any IJA defenders in the Taung Gyi area to rely on secondary dirt roads for supply and movement - and forcing them to withdraw into the Burma interior once dislodged from Taung Gyi. Will attack Taung Gyi next turn with 2-3 Divisions worth of troops, but I expect the defenders to be well dug in. Neither of these attacks on the Rangoon front will be supported by LBA as all air is focused on the Lashio Front. The Chinese attack west of Paoshan was, as expected, held by the IJA Bde in the mountains with about 100 IJA troops lost to 500 Chinese. But one division and the armor regiment of the Indian XV Corps is now in the mountains after advancing from Lashio and will attack the hex just to the west of the Chinese attack next turn, supported by all the Heavies I can muster. The other division from the XV Corps is in the jungles headed north to Bhama and will engage the withdrawing troops from the Lashio fight. Both of these attacks are probably premature, but it’s a chance to hit the IJA Lashio force before it gets into the mountains. Lastly, Myitkyina falls as the IJA/RTA troops pull south behind the river to Bhama - despite the Chinese Div still holding the south side of the river crossing! Did I mention, I hate land combat mechanics in this game?! Anyway, the Allied force in Myitkyina will begin to head south in pursuit - hopefully the Chinese Division on the far bank will still be there to support by the time they attempt to cross the river. The biggest issue right now in the Burma Theater is that the tempo of operations is exceeding the Allied ability to support it. I expected more of a “set piece” battle where I could support the Lashio fight, and then switch to the Rangoon fight. But with the IJA forces pulling out of Rangoon rather quickly, both fronts really need the support, and there isn’t enough airpower to go around. Supply fortunately continues to come in sufficiently through Akyab, and once Rangoon is taken, the supply flood gates will open for the entire Theater. The challenge then will be shipping. More shipping is needed and is now just being diverted to Theater since Rangoon’s fall is likely about 2 months earlier than envisioned. I can live with a problem like that!

In the IO, it remains quiet, so I’m sending out another Amphib TF capable of lifting a Bde sized force towards Trinkat to accelerate ongoing the troop exchange. I want to take advantage of the bulk of the IJN apparently at Ambon to get the troops moved now. Also, will have all 3 Yorktown Class CVs back in action after refit in about two weeks, and CV Wasp/CVL Independence are repaired and will sail from Aden next turn. So, by 1 Nov, I think the Allied fleet should be built back up enough to cause some damage - which also coincides with the CVL Independence class changing its aircraft composition from 12F to 24 with TBFs going down to 9. That’s a great increase in fighter cover! Lastly, although insignificant results were achieved, the actual act does have far reaching consequences….Brit Liberators temporarily based in Trinkat hit Rangoon Port at night. Only 4 of 22 bombers “found” the target, and dropped ordinance, hitting an xAK in port. Still, knowing that Rangoon is now in range (albeit in range from only two squadrons), should give L_S_T pause and further spread his air defenders out.





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13-14 Oct 43 - 2/19/2018 8:24:13 PM   
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Highlights – Hansa Bay taken; Allied attacks held in Burma while Trinkat SBDs hit ASW DDs

Jpn ships sunk:
DD: 2 (Wakazuki, Hatsuharu-old)
PB: 1
SS: 1 (RO-106 - hit a mine at Babar, then finished off by SS Thresher)
TK: 1
AK: 1
xAKL: 1

Jpn ships un-sunk:
DD: 1 (Hatsuharu)

Allied ships sunk: None

Air loss:
Jpn: 82
Allied: 46

Subwar:
Jpn: 1 Attacks, 1 ships hit (xAK sunk)
Allies: 7 Attacks, 4 ships hit (SS sunk, 2xAKL, xAK dam)

Jpn Amph Inv: None

Allied Amph: None

Bases lost: None

Bases Liberated:
Hansa Bay (SOPAC)

SIGINT/Intel: Combined Fleet still reported at Ambon

West Coast/Admin: NSTR.

In NOPAC, NSTR.

In CENPAC, NSTR.

In SOPAC, Hansa Bay taken on the first assault, 500 IJA loss to 100 US. The base was taken completely intact, the AF already operational with a squadron of Hellcats flown in. The US 37th ID will immediately begin heading along the trail to Madang. US DD TF (5DD)s, swept up the New Guinea coast to Hollandia, sinking a lone PB. Transports carrying engineers completely offloaded, and will head back to Tulagi, and their DD TF will do another coastal sortie. The first barge convoy with another engineer battalion will begin offloading next turn as well. Heavies will hit Madang next turn to begin the softening up process. Mediums will rest. BB Washington TF and the primary Amph TF continues to head to Tulagi. So far, so good in SOPAC.

In SWPAC, IJN sub RO-106 hits a mine at Babar and is sunk by the SS Thresher - first time we’ve been on the winning team in a sub vs. sub fight in a long, long time! Fast Transport TF (2DD, 4APD) drop engineers at Babar without incident, although IJA fighter sweeps with Oscar IVs were met by LRCAP out of Bathurst. The half dozen P-47s did well against the 20+ Oscars with 20 Oscars lost for a single P-47. Big Jpn convoy intercepted SE of Ambon in the Banda Sea by SS Gudgeon which missed an xAK and was heavily damaged by DCs. Not sure if this convoy was bringing in troops to Western New Guinea from Ambon or pulling troops out. IJN still in Ambon, so perhaps a counter invasion of Babar is in the mix? That would take a division. Outlying Para taken islands can fairly easily be re-taken if L_S_T puts minimal effort into it, single small battalion without forts or CD guns wouldn’t be tough to take. Will be interesting to see what happens. Too much fleet concentrated too far forward to just sit for long.

In China, NSTR.

In Burma, not a good day. Attack at Taung Gyi fails miserably with about 500 IJA loss to 1800 Allied in the fist assault, and for whatever reason, the Allies thought a 1-5 attack would have better success the second day and attacked again! Another 800 Allied casualties with no gains. Most of the losses were taken by the 20th Indian Div and the 22nd East African Brigade which will be good only for garrison duty for a while. Taung Gyi can only be taken with fresh troops, so a Brit Division is heading that way, as is the US 43rd Div - but by the time both these divisions are ready to go, my bet is that L_S_T will have pulled out. Which is what he’s doing at a very rapid pace near Rangoon. The expected attack to dislodge the delaying force NE of Pegu didn’t happen as the defenders headed to Pegu. Allied troops should enter both Rangoon and Pegu in the next few turns. The question is will they be entering an abandoned base or not.

In the IO, L_S_T decided to conduct heavy sweeps over Trinkat, but no bombers followed up to strike at the transports. The sweeps were heavy and costly to the 3 squadron CAP - 35 Oscar IVs, and 24 Franks lost to 10 P-40K, 6 P-47 and 6 Spits. The Allied squadrons were largely swapped out with fresh (except the Spits) with few pilots lost. A Hellcat squadron was flown in should L_S_T try again next turn as transports will still lay at anchor bringing up the fighter strength to just over 100. Just hope the IJN stays away! The single SBD squadron at Trinket earned its pay finding and striking against an ASW TF that was patrolling the northern exit of the Straits of Malacca near Phuket - 2 of three DDs reportedly were hit and one of those hit reportedly sunk. Lastly, CV Wasp TF arrived on map from Aden, linking up with an escorting CA TF at Socotra where they will head to Colombo.






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RE: 13-14 Oct 43 - 2/19/2018 9:51:12 PM   
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Considering what L_S_T has had to bear at Chungking, you really don't have grounds for complaint at Taung Gyi. But overall this looks like good, steady progress as the slowly increasing weight of Allied power takes control here and there.

I have to admit I have been surprised at how quiet the Japanese carriers have been ever since your critical defeat in the IO. I wonder if his carrier plane losses were higher than you thought (or at least, higher than I thought).

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Considering what L_S_T has had to bear at Chungking, you really don't have grounds for complaint at Taung Gyi. But overall this looks like good, steady progress as the slowly increasing weight of Allied power takes control here and there.

I have to admit I have been surprised at how quiet the Japanese carriers have been ever since your critical defeat in the IO. I wonder if his carrier plane losses were higher than you thought (or at least, higher than I thought).



I'm sure L_S_T will agree with you whole heartedly about the Chungking vs. Taung Gyi losses when he reads this AAR in a year or two!

As for not being more aggressive with the CVs, I am a bit surprised too, but then again, I think he's cautious playing for the long game. With the US CVs knocked about, he's gained about 6mo breathing space, especially in the IO. Any counter landing in the Andamans would have been costly.

I figured he'd try a big raid - I really thought he was coming to plaster Darwin. But in any raid - or counter landing even, the costs could outweigh the immediate gains. Fuel, pilots and possibly capital ships would be expended and/or at risk - I'm not sure what the best outcome "gain" he could get. He's already gained time, and that's probably the best outcome of any IJN sortie for the long haul, no?


With Japanese production, I can't fathom he's short airframes. Pilots? Maybe, but I don't think he's short in '43. Maybe a year from now....perhaps....hopefully...

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RE: 13-14 Oct 43 - 2/20/2018 1:30:43 AM   
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It makes sense as you said, the time he gained is a lot more valuable than a few more Allied losses, unless he could score a very lucky strike. But I think it must be very tempting to try to raid with the IJN carriers, even if a risk/reward analysis doesn't really look good. L_S_T is playing very carefully and disciplined. Nevertheless, even with the "breathing space" in time as you put it, you have been able to make more progress in several areas. Once you get your big ships back, you may be in position to really break through with a big landing somewhere deeper.

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15-16 Oct 43 - 2/27/2018 6:06:07 PM   
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Highlights – IJN Babar bombardment run costly; IJA air strikes hard at Trinkat again

Jpn ships sunk:
BB: 1 (Kirishima torpedoed, highly doubt its sunk….)
DD: 1 (Asashio - another Babar mine victim)
PB: 1
xAKL: 2

Jpn ships un-sunk:
SS: 2 (I-39, I-165)

Allied ships sunk:
DE: 1 (Gilmore - to sub off Trinkat)
SC: 1
PT: 3

Air loss:
Jpn: 74
Allied: 38

Subwar:
Jpn: 1 Attacks, 1 ship hit (DE sunk)
Allies: 3 Attacks, 1 ship hit (BB Kirishima hit w/ 1 torp by SS Hake)

Jpn Amph Inv: None

Allied Amph: None

Bases lost: None

Bases Liberated: None

SIGINT/Intel: IJN quiet except out of Ambon area.

West Coast/Admin: CV Bunker Hill and two CVLs enter the Pacific through the Panama Canal, heading to Pearl and CENPAC.

In NOPAC, US CL TF (2CL, 5DD) begins raiding along the Kurile chain so far without contact or success.

In CENPAC, BB Pennsy TF (BB, 2CA, CL, DDs) bombard Mujuro with minimal effect and returns to Roi to re-arm and refuel. Will set out to bombard Ponape supported by CVE TF (5CVE, CLAA, DDs) next turn as prep of Ponape heats up. Allied air begins to focus on Ponape ground troops. Elements of the Amph TF still congregating towards Tabit. Loading will begin next turn, but with a division sized landing it will take multiple turns to fully load.

In SOPAC, Umboi Island transports assembled at Tulagi, will head to Kirakira to begin loading Americal Division next turn for Umboi. Many US DDs undergo quick repairs at Tulagi. Engineers and now USMC Def Bn heading toward Hansa Bay. To cover the influx of troops, US DD TF (4DD) patrol along the New Guinea coast as far as Sarmi, sinking two xAKLs off Hollandia and a PB off Sarmi. To support more offensive operations along the New Guinea coast, advance elements of the fleet train (AKE, AGP, AD) will establish at New Hannover Island next turn. Jpn response so far to the Hansa Bay operation has been non existant. Lastly, Madang hit hard by B-24s as the next target of the advancing 37th ID.

In SWPAC, IJN BB TF (3BB, 3CA, CL, DDs) bombard Babar with minimal effect. PTs are brushed aside, sinking 3 as well as a SC disbanded in port. The “fuel barge” LST I had disbanded at Babar to fuel PTs was also damaged, but its still floating so can still support PT ops for now. IJN did not return to port unscathed. Mines claimed another DD, SS Hake put a torp into BB Kirishima and B-25s landed a bomb on CA Kinugasa at night starting a brief fire. In the air, sweeping Zeros (A6M5c models) tangle with small numbers of LRCAP Corsairs out of Bathurst, losing 10 to only one Corsair. Lastly, the IJN TF missed the just arriving barge convoy - which, with any luck can offload the troops/supplies and clear. Next turn will see another US Fast Transport run, and somewhat increased LRCAP over Babar in support. The question is what the IJN will bring to bear to run the sub and mine gauntlet to Babar.

In China, NSTR.

In Burma, Indian troops clear a mountain hex closer to the stalled Chinese troops attacking from Paoshan who were again held by the IJA’s 65th Bde with heavy loss - 1300 Chinese lost for 150 IJA. The main IJA force that withdrew out of Lashio is still attempting to advance to block this mountain trail, and I’m going to try a low likelihood of success attack on this force next turn with a fairly battered Indian Division. I’m also brining in at least one, likely two US divisions to clear this corridor to China. I can do that as British troops have entered Rangoon and find a reportedly weak rear guard, and will attack next turn. Troops are still heading toward Pegu, also reportedly lightly head. So with some luck, Rangoon and Pegu will be in Allied hands before the end of the month, at which point the main Allied Burma Army will need to take a well deserved pause.

In the IO, IJN sub ventures into Trinkat and puts a fish into the Amph TF’s DE Gimore and likely survives the reported 6 hits in return. The air is the big show as sweeps again go in against Trinkat, but this time they preceed strikes against the TF offloading supplies and that will take a US brigade off. Tojos come in to sweep and are mauled by the CAP; 26 lost to two US fighters. But, they do tire out the CAP a bit, and 41 Lilly dive bombers come in well escorted by 39 Oscar IVs and 12 Franks which are met by 7 Spit Vs, 18 P-40K, 16 P-47, and 16 Hellcats. CAP does well, but not well enough; 15 Oscar, 2 Frank and 6 Lillys splashed for 2 P-40, 3 P-47, and 3 Hellcat. The remaining Lillys hit the TF, putting two 100kg bombs into CLAA Van Heemskerk and four on a big LSI(L) starting fires on both at the cost of 7 Lillys to AA fire. An expensive raid for the attackers, but the LSI(L) is heavily damaged and will have to be detached with a DD escort back to Colombo. The TF is still able to load an IN Bde, and the LSTs will load a tank battalion beginning next turn. CAP is again reinforced with two fresh Hellcat squadrons replacing the one there, and the Spits also pulled out. The wildcard of course is whether the IJN comes into play. Also in the Andmans, another convoy arrives in Port Blair and is offloading supplies before loading up an Indian Bde to bring to Trinkat and then take off another US Bde. So, the plan is to have much transport traffic at Trinkat in the coming days - if - and only if, the IJN stays away. I’m not ready to commit the US carriers back to the fight.





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Highlights – US APDs get hung up at Babar and pay for it; Tuang Gyi taken and fighting begins in Rangoon.

Jpn ships sunk:
SS: 1 (I-165)

Allied ships sunk:
APD: 3 (Chew, Gregory, Dent)

Air loss:
Jpn: 39
Allied: 31

Subwar:
Jpn: 1 Attacks, 0 ships hit
Allies: 6 Attacks, 1 ship hit (xAP dam)

Jpn Amph Inv: None

Allied Amph: None

Bases lost: None

Bases Liberated:
Tuang Gyi (Burma)

SIGINT/Intel: Station Hypo has picked up chatter that the IJA’s 2ID is planning on attacking Babar. With the IJN still concentrated at Ambon, this is now very possible.

West Coast/Admin: NSTR.

In NOPAC, US CL TF (2CL, 5DD) raid along the Kurile chain only manages to have CL Trenton hit a mine at Paramushiro. Moderately damaged (11/27(24)/0), she’ll make Amchitka, and then head stateside for repairs. Well…at least I know that Paramushiro is mined!

In CENPAC, BB Pennsy TF (BB, 2CA, CL, DDs) supported by CVE TF (5CVE, CLAA, DDs) heads to Ponape, and should bombard during the night. Allied continues to hit Ponape ground troops. Ponape Amph TF begins loading at Tabit, and will continue to do so for a few days before heading to stage at Kusaie.

In SOPAC, Umboi Amph TF begins loading at Kirakira. LBA begins softening up Umboi and other bases in the area. US DDs will again sortie along the New Guinea coast next turn to disrupt coastal shipping. New Hannover now capable of supporting DDs and PTs. More fighters flown into Hansa Bay as shipping begins jamming the harbor with both supplies and new arrivals.

In SWPAC, US Fast Transport TF (2DD, 4APDs) fails to clear Babar Is after dropping off Advn BF troops and is pounded by low level Oscar IVs, supported by heavy sweeps. LRCAP out of Bathurst is no where near enough, although 12 Zeros and 2 Georges are claimed in exchange for 4 P-47 and 3 F4Us. With the possibility of the IJA’s 2ID now planning to counter invade Babar, all US engineering effort is now going to focus on digging in. Fort level now at level 2 and should be at level 3 in a few days if the bombardments stay away. In response to the low level strafers, a barge TF will begin heading to Babar, escorted by a DD TF, but will hold short of the island, heavily covered by 4 fighter squadrons. Hopefully, I can avoid the sweepers and lure in the strafers. Even if this doesn’t pan out, the barges should then be able to make the short run from the holding hex to drop troops and supplies, and then head back home before dawn. Of course, the wild card is, as always, what will the IJN do?

In China, NSTR.

In Burma, the Central Burma campaign looks to be winding down. Fighting begins in Rangoon, with the Brit 18th Div supported by an Indian Armored Bde begins reducing the defenses. Two attacks with minimal losses to either side, 500 IJA and 150 Allied, manage to reduce the forts from level 4 to level 2. Allied attacks, with additionally arriving troops, will continue next turn which should secure the city. Allied troops also entered an undefended Pegu which was surprising as this cuts off the Rangoon defenders’ withdrawal route, and it was very defendable - the IJA main body is now in and around Moulmein. Also, the IJA did pull out of Taung Gyi, and the base is liberated by Allied troops in the hex. Again, even a token force would likely have required a costly attack, so I’m good with the IJA pulling out, and I’m surprised they are pulling to the SE along the trail instead of down the main highway towards Pegu. That was the good news in Burma. On the not so good news front, on the Lashio front, the already reduced Indian 23rd Div was held by the Lashio garrison troops south of Bhamo. Not really surprised here, but had to try the attack. At the river crossing south of Myitkyina, the Chinese Division attacking with the US Regiment and Indian Brigade got pummeled in getting across the river. 2700 Allied casualites, fortunately mostly in disabled squads. But the Allied troops are across the river, and now threaten Bhamo from the north. In any case, it’s likely going to take both US divisions to clear this “Bhamo Pocket” up and clear the route to Poashan.

In the IO, it was quiet. No raids against the convoys at Trinkat, and they successfully pulled off a US IN Bde and Tank Bn, and are halfway to Colombo. Another convoy will begin loading up an Indian Bde at Port Blair to transit them to Trinkat, and then take off another Bde. As with the Babar situation, the question is whether or not the IJN will come out to disrupt operations.





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19-20 Oct 43 - 3/12/2018 12:58:05 AM   
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Highlights – Rangoon taken! KB at sea clobbers DDs and barges near Babar

Jpn ships sunk:
PB: 1
xAK: 1
xAKL: 2

Jpn ships un-sunk:
SS: 2 (RO-36, I-179)

Allied ships sunk:
DD: 1 (Nicholas)
SS: 2 (Gudgeon, Scorpion)
SC: 1
PT: 1

Air loss:
Jpn: 42
Allied: 42

Subwar:
Jpn: 1 Attacks, 0 ships hit
Allies: 2 Attacks, 1 ship hit (xAKL dam) SS Gudgeon sunk by convoy escorts off Damar; Scorpion (already crippled by bomb) sunk by airstrike while in port at Babar.

Jpn Amph Inv: None

Allied Amph Inv: None

Bases lost: None

Bases Liberated:
Rangoon (Burma)
Pegu (Burma)

SIGINT/Intel: Looks like L_S_T is making a major attempt to retake Babar; KB out at sea in force, and what looks like a major Amphib convoy at Damar heading towards Babar.

West Coast/Admin: NSTR.

In NOPAC, CL Trenton two DDs will head to Bremerton for repairs.

In CENPAC, BB Pensy TF (BB, 2CA, CL, DDs) supported by CVE TF (5CVE, CLAA, DDs) bombards Ponape and is rudely surprised by mines and some nasty accurate 8” shore batteries. CVE Casablanca (12/34(29)/0) and DD Warrington (18/30(19)/0) both hit mines while CA Vincennes (16sys) takes a 8” shell. Bombardment accomplishes little. On the bright side, better to know Ponape has a robust CD battery and minefield in place prior to the Amphib landing. Will sortie minesweepers to see if they can reduce mines, but with the CD batteries, they’ll probably take the worst of it. Amphib TF continues to load at Tabit. Half the bombers will switch to hitting the port in an attempt to suppress the CD batteries. This one looks to be a tough nut to crack!

In SOPAC, Umboi Amph TF completes loading at Kirakira, and will head to Kiriwina to stage where it will link up with BB Wash TF. LBA continues to soften up Umboi and other bases in the area. US DD TF (6DDs) sink a PB and xAKL off Hollandia, and will continue to sweep the New Guinea coast before heading back to New Hannover. LBA will also make limited sweeps over Hollandia next turn - limited due to P-47 and Hellcat squadrons transferring to SWPAC due to the situation at Babar. More than enough LBA is avail to support Umboi Amphib ops, but fully suppressing Hollandia will have to wait. On the ground, 37th ID continues pressing towards Madang with a successful attack on delaying IJA 82nd Naval Guard, 775 Jpn casualties for only 50 US.

In SWPAC, that barge TF paused enroute to Babar, escorted by a DD TF (6DD) got pummeled by heavy KB airstrikes that the LRCAP was ill prepared to deal with. I actually consider myself lucky that only 1DD, a SC and 5 barges were sunk outright. 1DD will be scuttled, and the other 4 will need some sizeable yard time, but they should be able to reach the Brisbane yards. Babar is also the focus of concentrated LBA sweeps and a KB airstrike which sinks the fuel barge LST and the crippled SS Scorpion. The entire IJN, presumably with the Amph and bombardment TFs, look to be staged at Damar Island, and I can likely expect this armada to move on Babar next turn. The one US Bde and USMC Def Bn will have their work cut out for them! Forts are at level 2, 86% close to level 3 and there are still some 320 mines. Babar is 6 hexes from Bathurst Island, so its in fighter range. Allied air will have over 300 fighters available, but that 6 hex range will be costly, especially if the KB is in full support. Still, this might be an expensive foray for the IJN to retake Babar. Bottom line though is that if L_S_T wants to retake the island, he does have the forces available to do it as I’m still not committing major fleet elements in SWPAC any time soon.




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In China, NSTR.

In Burma, Rangoon is liberated in the first attack, and in the second attack, the defending IJA 21st Ind Mixed Bde with an arty Reg retreats to the swamps to the SW. About 2500 IJA casualties to under 150 Allied. Surprisingly Rangoon was only at fort level 2! I expected a drawn out city fight to take Rangoon. Pegu flipped unoccupied was at fort level 3. This concludes the central Burma Campaign. IJA forces have pulled behind the river to defend the “Moulmein Line”, and Allied troops will need to reposition to the NE to flank them - there is no way I’m going to force a river line with the bulk of the IJA having pulled out of Burma successfully. At sea, minesweepers begin sweeping Rangoon, and transports are currently being loaded in Allied ports with both troops and supplies to head to Rangoon. The port of Rangoon is key - it is only at level 4, but it will be built to max (9), to bring in not only mass supplies to eventually get to China, but also to transit the bulk of the Allied support troops still in India/Burma border bases to Burma. Troops moving by foot off of Ramree are stopped, they will transit by ship. Of course, the earlier than expected seizing of Rangoon means necessary shipping is still enroute from Ceylon, but what is available is loading the first engineers at Chittagong and should head to Rangoon next turn. The other ground game in Burma is still ongoing to open the road to Paoshan, and another attack will be tried next turn with the fresh 14th Indian Div and supporting tank regiment attacking from the west to assist the bloodied Chinese elements attacking from the east. Airpower will fully support. LBA needs a rest badly, and also needs to reposition out of India to the Prome/Rangoon airfields. More troops are enroute to clear the IJA from this LOC, including US troops arriving by rail at Lashio, but it will be a few turns till they can fully re-deploy.

In the IO, it was quiet again. Troop shuttling continues to and from Trinkat. So far, so good.





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RE: 19-20 Oct 43 - 3/12/2018 1:21:02 AM   
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Half the bombers will switch to hitting the port in an attempt to suppress the CD batteries.


Dumb and/or rookie question -- did not know this -- attacking the port will also target the CD guns?

Also, given how tough, apparently, Ponape is, would it make sense to bypass it? What can you do with Ponape that you couldn't do better with, say, Kavieng?

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RE: 19-20 Oct 43 - 3/12/2018 1:51:43 AM   
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Half the bombers will switch to hitting the port in an attempt to suppress the CD batteries.


Dumb and/or rookie question -- did not know this -- attacking the port will also target the CD guns?

Also, given how tough, apparently, Ponape is, would it make sense to bypass it? What can you do with Ponape that you couldn't do better with, say, Kavieng?

I am not so sure it is because of the port attack that the CD guns were targeted. I have used Ground Attack quite often to target LCUs in a base and they do attack the Naval Fortress as a priority. After that the unit with the highest AV seems to be most targeted. So that makes me think that the Squadron Commander used initiative to change from Port Attack to Ground Attack to hit the most dangerous unit he saw - the CD Unit or Naval Fort.
I have seen Air Squadrons change targeting contrary to orders before, most often to attack an adjacent hex instead of the one ordered.

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RE: 19-20 Oct 43 - 3/12/2018 1:44:03 PM   
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Thanks, BBfanboy, that's very interesting. The AI targeting actually does a better job than I do, most of the time!

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quote:

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Half the bombers will switch to hitting the port in an attempt to suppress the CD batteries.


Dumb and/or rookie question -- did not know this -- attacking the port will also target the CD guns?

Also, given how tough, apparently, Ponape is, would it make sense to bypass it? What can you do with Ponape that you couldn't do better with, say, Kavieng?



Jwolf -

I read on the forum (where else?) that port strikes can take out CD guns. No idea where or when I read that, but that's where I got it from. Not sure of course if that's true, but I'm giving it a shot.

As for Ponape itself, I want to take it for a couple of reasons. First, it brings escorted bombers into range of Truk which I want to suppress. Second, I need to figure out the best way to take a "hard target" - Island defenses are just going to get harder the closer I get to Nippon. Best to do some experimenting now with little chance of an IJN (air or sea) response. Especially finding the best way to reduce the CD gun threat and clearing mines.

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ORIGINAL: jwolf

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Half the bombers will switch to hitting the port in an attempt to suppress the CD batteries.


Dumb and/or rookie question -- did not know this -- attacking the port will also target the CD guns?

Also, given how tough, apparently, Ponape is, would it make sense to bypass it? What can you do with Ponape that you couldn't do better with, say, Kavieng?



Jwolf -

I read on the forum (where else?) that port strikes can take out CD guns. No idea where or when I read that, but that's where I got it from. Not sure of course if that's true, but I'm giving it a shot.

As for Ponape itself, I want to take it for a couple of reasons. First, it brings escorted bombers into range of Truk which I want to suppress. Second, I need to figure out the best way to take a "hard target" - Island defenses are just going to get harder the closer I get to Nippon. Best to do some experimenting now with little chance of an IJN (air or sea) response. Especially finding the best way to reduce the CD gun threat and clearing mines.

I read the same thing, but I don't know how else to explain that I also hit Naval Forts and CD units when I set "Ground Attack" for my bombers. As it happens, I am currently using Ponape to suppress Truk too and the Naval Fort is always the first thing the bombers attack. Either way, it's all good if they knock out some guns!




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21-22 Oct 43 - 3/14/2018 12:55:51 AM   
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Highlights – IJN remains at Damar

Jpn ships sunk:
DD: 1 (Hibiki - old?)
SS: 1 (I-154)
PB: 2
AV: 1 (old)
xAKL: 2

Jpn ships un-sunk:
SS: 1 (I-35)

Allied ships sunk:
DD: 2 (Meade (scuttled), Redoubt)
SS: 1 (Tambor)
LST: 1 (scuttled)

Air loss:
Jpn: 16
Allied: 38

Subwar:
Jpn: 1 Attacks, 1 ships hit (DD Redoubt sunk)
Allies: 4 Attacks, 4 ship hit (PB, 3xAKL dam) SS Wahoo hits 3 of three ships in same convoy off Korea. IJN ASW efforts continue to be very effective; SS Permit heavily dam by escorts while mining Damar, 3 subs hit by aircraft and will have to return for repairs and SS Tambor succumbs to previous ASW inflicted damage.

Jpn Amph Inv: None

Allied Amph: None

Bases lost: None

Bases Liberated: None

SIGINT/Intel: What appears to be the majority of the Combined Fleet remains off Damar Is; this includes the KB, BBs and assault shipping. Can expect the full weight to be committed against Babar. Much to much force for a landing only at Damar.

West Coast/Admin: NSTR.

In NOPAC, NSTR.

In CENPAC, Ponape Amph TF completes loading troops and will depart to Kusaie to link up with bombardment and CVE TFs. Two Minesweeper TFs enroute to Ponape to begin clearing mines; I expect coastal guns will make that effort costly. LBA continues to pound Ponape.

In SOPAC, Umboi Amph TF enroute to Kiriwina will now stage at Buna, a bit closer to target. BB Wash TF already at Kiriwina will join as will the various supporting TFs. LBA, both Heavies and mediums will begin a focused prep on Umboi. DD TF (6DD) sinks a PB and 2xAKLs off Sarmi, will sweep near Manus and return to New Hannover. A second DD TF (6DD) will depart New Hannover and sweep the New Guinea shore as far as Biak. The fighter sweeps over Hollandia came up empty - the reported 60 fighters there were apparently moved elsewhere.

In SWPAC, caught a break with no airstrikes against Babar the first day, (weather maybe?) which allowed engineers to get the fort level to level 3. The three barges inbound with some supplies and support troops were, as anticipated, blown out of the water by strafing Oscars. Much IJA fighter sweeps over Babar again, and they went in unopposed. Second day brought in a single big KB airstrike (208Z, 180T, 93D) that hit the port, but only did minor damage. No Allied LRCAP interfered, the only Allied airstrikes were limited to night runs against the IJN concentration off Damar - a total of 44 sorties over two days which achieved a DD hit by a single bomb and too many aircraft lost to AA - 9 B-25 and 3 PBY. SS Perch managed to put mines in at Damar, but was heavily damaged in the attempt by escorts. I got to figure L_S_T is about ready to land his 2nd ID at Babar, he’s been sitting at Damar for a few days now. So, next turn will have a small number of attack squadrons w/ F6F escorts set to range Babar, plus the night raiders less low level B-25s. I’m keeping the main air strength back till he’s committed to landing so I don’t wear out my pilots and planes in sweeping empty airspace. There’s risk in that if the landing can clear in two days of course. But even so, once he’s ashore, LBA will commit in the ground support role which will also demand heavy fighter support. This one may prove very interesting!

In China, NSTR.

In Burma, the attack to open the road to Paoshan is again held, but the 20th Indian Division didn’t suffer much loss, and will resume attacks next turn. The IJA’s 65th Bde has given a good account of itself, but it has to fold at some point. The US 27th ID is moving towards Bhamo where I hope to have it take the RTA force before it “withdraws” into the mountains where it can possibly block the Poashan route. Other than that, it was quiet in Theater. The big news is that Rangoon AF is operational with a squadron of P-47s coming in to protect the inbound supply and troop convoys - the first of which are already at sea in the IO heading for Rangoon.

In the IO, an IJN sub laid mines at Trinkat which are being swept, and the sub was heavily damaged by escorts of the convoy dropping the Indian Bde off. The convoy will load out the last of the US 7th ID and return to Columbo. So far, no IJN or LBA interference, other than the mines. Elsewhere, an IJN sub off Addu Is puts torp into an ASW patrol DD, sinking her. Will continue to try and hunt down the sub with more ASW assets, both ASW a/c and ASW TFs. Lastly, CV Enterprise has completed refit at Cape Town and will begin her journey back to Columbo with 2BBs, CL and DDs. She’s also got her full air complement as well as the first Corsairs - night fighter variant. Yorktown and Hornet also have completed refit at Columbo, so once Big E joins, will look to resume offensive operations.


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23-24 Oct 43 - 3/15/2018 5:33:51 PM   
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Highlights – IJN lands a division at Babar!

Jpn ships sunk:
DD: 2 (Asagiri, Mochizuki - both to mines)
SS: 2 (RO-37, RO-38)
AM: 1
PB: 2
xAP: 1

Allied ships sunk:
PT: 6

Air loss:
Jpn: 30
Allied: 43

Subwar:
Jpn: 2 Attacks, 0 ships hit
Allies: 4 Attacks, 2 ship hit (AM, PB dam)

Jpn Amph Inv:
Babar Is (SWPAC)

Allied Amph: None

Bases lost: None

Bases Liberated: None

SIGINT/Intel: Looks like L_S_T is going all in to throw me off Babar - entire division landed supported by what appears to be most of the fleet.

West Coast/Admin: NSTR.

In NOPAC, NSTR.

In CENPAC, Ponape Amph TF departs Tabit and will now stage between Kusaie and Ponape to link up with bombardment and CVE TFs, as well as reorganize TF composition a bit. Initial minesweeping effort at Ponape only clears 12 mines at the cost of the minesweeper. Two DMSs will run in this turn and continue the work. LBA continues to prep. Even with the week long prep, mines and CD batteries will still take a toll. Lastly, CV Bunker Hill TF reaches PH and takes on fuel enroute to the Marshalls.

In SOPAC, Umboi Amph and supporting TFs will depart Buna for target next turn, landing the Americal Div and supporting troops. Amph TF will then head back to Vella to pick up the supporting 33rd Div. Unless defenses are much less than expected, will not attack on the ground at Umboi until both divisions are ready. LBA continues to prep target. On New Guinea, 37th ID has reached Madang, and will attack next turn. US DD TFs continue to harass IJN resupply efforts off New Guinea, sinking a PB off Manus. DDs will raid Biak next turn, although I’m not expecting much shipping to be found.

In SWPAC, L_S_T has gone all in for Babar, landing what looks to be the full 2nd ID plus a lone artillery battalion. Apparently, the division was far from fully prepped as it suffered over 2000 casualties in the landing including 133 squads disabled. The USMC Def Bn was active and reportedly hit about a half dozen xAKs during the landing as well as a DMS and two AMs curtailing minesweeping operations. The 300+ mines also did damage, sinking two DDs, and damaged an LSD and an xAK. There’s still about 250 mines. Somehow, the massive Amph TF was able to EVADE the intercepting PTs….not that they would have done much, but I was still surprised! After the Amph TF evaded the PTs, the CA TF (3CA, 2CL, DDs) easily brushed aside the PTs - sinking 6 without loss. The Amph TF had numerous warships in it (2BB, 3CA, 2CL, DDs), but without a dedicated bombardment TF, the USMC Def Bn’s batteries remained active throughout the landing. Two large Air strikes from the KB targeted the port, doing minor damage. No US LRCAP met the numerous sweeps or strikes. While Allied night strikes were totally ineffective, losing 7 Beauforts to flak, the two attacking squadrons in daylight (SDB and B-25) escorted by F6Fs did very well, brushing aside a weak 12Z CAP. An LSD, 2 xAP, 2AK, and 5xAK were all hit and set afire. While the Allied response this turn was limited, I’m going to throw in the kitchen sink, at least air wise, next turn. Full aerial attack from Bathurst (6hexes, AF8), Darwin (7hexes, AF9), Fenton (9hexes, AF9) and Katherine (11hexes, AF8). Bathurst (173F, 87Bomber) and Darwin (248F, 80B) will have most of the fighters and single engine strike aircraft, including torpedo bombers capable of ranging Babar. Fenton (79F, 56B) the twin engine for low level naval strikes, and Katherine (50F, 73B) the Heavies which will hit ground targets. Some fighters will be held back as CAP just in case the KB tries to strike the bases, but there should be enough fighters to penetrate the assumed heavy LRCAP over Babar, even with the very likely strike coordination penalties with US Army, Navy, USMC and Aussie planes involved from a few different Air HQs. With luck, the IJN’s Amph TF will remain on site at Babar as well, and the KB will not move between Babar and the Australian coast. While that would allow the a/c to hit the KB, I’m not likely to effectively penetrate a heavy KB CAP sitting over the carriers. At sea, the only contribution will be the usual sub threat and a squadron of PTs will sortie from Bathurst to harass the landing. Cruisers and destroyers will stay at Darwin. Going to be a bloody turn regardless I think.

In China, NSTR.

In Burma, the 20th Indian Division is held again and needs to rest before another attack. The two US divisions are moving up through Lashio, as well as the Chinese Division flown in from Ledo to Lashio. Heavies also need a rest. The road will be opened, but it will take a while. Meanwhile, the Indian 19th Div gets a brigade across the Sittang River into an undefended jungle hex, and the remainder of the division should follow next turn - that should flank the defense line being thrown up in front of Moulmein. Of course, there is another river to cross, and more jungle, but so far that line isn’t fully occupied either. Allied troops need to do considerably more shifting and repositioning anyway, so this is about as effective as an offensive operation can get at the moment. The priority needs to be opening up the Lashio-Pashoan corridor. Three fighter squadrons have moved into Rangoon as the first major convoy will arrive next turn. Although I don’t expect a heavy air attack, I don’t want to chance it. Shipping will be packed in Rangoon in the coming days until the port can be expanded (level 4 now) and much naval support brought in. It will take most of November to get situated supply wise and relocate support troops, as well as bring in the majority of the India based bomber force before a major offensive move can be made to take Moulmein.

In the IO, mines were cleared from Trinkat and the last part of the US 7th ID pulled out without incident. Another convoy is inbound to pull out the Canadian Bde and engineers. Supply convoy brought Port Blair up to plentiful supply levels. No response from the IJN. Will still take a week or so to finish out shuttling troops.





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Highlights – Bloody day over Babar Is; troops ashore at Umboi Is.

Jpn ships sunk:
CA: 1 (Kinusaga - doubtful)
DD: 1 (Asanagi)
xAKL: 1

Allied ships sunk:
DMS: 2 (Lamberton, Zane)
AVD: 1
xAP: 1 (small)
xAK: 1
LCI: 3

Air loss:
Jpn: 82
Allied: 145

Subwar:
Jpn: 2 Attacks, 0 ships hit
Allies: 2 Attacks, 1 ship hit (TK dam)

Jpn Amph Inv: None

Allied Amph:
Umboi Is (SOPAC)

Bases lost: None

Bases Liberated:
Madang (SOPAC)

SIGINT/Intel: Continued presence of apparently the entire IJN in the Babar Is area. L_S_T never does anything SMALL!!!

West Coast/Admin: NSTR.

In NOPAC, NSTR.

In CENPAC, minesweeping TF of two DMSs clears about 50 mines at Ponape, but CD batteries blast the event the quick DMSs. Was hoping that a DMS was going to be more survivable than slower AMs in minesweeping with CD gun threat. Clearly answered! At any rate, Amph TF will begin landings after the bombardment TF goes in. BB Pennsy switched from bombardment TF to Amph TF to hopefully absorb some CD battery fire. LBA continues support; hitting both the ground troops and port strikes. Going to be a tough landing and likely a tough fight once ashore! But the island is isolated from any support - not that L_S_T has any intent of a counter landing here - he’s left the Marshalls pretty much as a delay mechanism. Just land garrisons to slow down the Allied advance.

In SOPAC, Umboi Amph goes in after bombardment. CD batteries remained fairly effective; sinking the lone xAP, 3xLCI, and an AVP while damaging a couple of LSTs and a DD (Burns) that will require repair time. Still, troops ashore in good shape, only about 250 lost in the landings. Americal Div and supporting troops will limit themselves to bombardment until the Amph TF can return with the 33rd Div, currently awaiting transport at Vella. Along the New Guinea coast, DD sweeps find and sink another xAKL, and a couple of barges are sunk off Umboi as well. 37th ID takes Madang without much effort and will continue east into the jungle, eventually taking Lae from the rear. At the other end of the pincer, the composite NZ Div will resume attacking the 38th ID after catching up to its retreat. Lastly, the 4th USMC Div is beginning its journey from Noumea to Kiriwina Is where it will be embarking for Hollandia later in Nov. Troops are well prepped, but amphib shipping availability is what’s slowing progress now more than defenses - although there are some hard targets on the list, including Hollandia which seems to be building up. But as long as the IJN stays off Babar, the advance will continue as fast troops can prep and the transports bring them to targets.

In SWPAC, the Allied air attacks against shipping off Babar Island went as poorly as possible. Not really surprised. Lots of IJA/IJN fighter sweeps were not opposed. Allied naval strikes went in, as expected, against a robust LRCAP off the KB. What didn’t happen was any strike coordination or common sense on the part of the Allied air AI. Again not surprising - although many fighters avail, few flew with strikes - especially the SBD and TBF strikes - all not coordinated, usually single squadrons with minimal escorts. No P-47 squadrons elected to escort strikes, although P-38s did - same hex, same HQs. Go figure. So the results were costly - a number of ships hit, but air losses were prohibitive. Still, by the end of the two days of strikes, CA Kinugasa was torpedoed, two DDs dam and another reported sunk, and a half dozen AKs left burning. Attack planes will need a rest, and USMC fighters need replacements. The major problem is there is no ability to sweep over a “friendly” base, although L_S_T doesn’t have that issue. I’ll try some high altitude P-47 LRCAP over Babar, but I’m pretty sure that will be ineffective. Despite some LBA bombing, US ground troops ashore are still in good shape with fort level 3, and I think more than enough to hold off the now depleted/disrupted IJA 2ID that landed. Will be interesting to see what L_S_T does here - reinforce with another division perhaps? Keep the KB and most of the IJN engaged to starve out the defenders?

In China, NSTR.

In Burma, it was pretty quiet. The 20th Indian Division and supporting Chinese troops will attack next turn to open the route to Paoshan, while the US 27th ID will begin an attack on the RTA troops south of Bhamo. US 43rd Div as detrained at Lashio and will begin moving east - towards either Paoshan or Bhamo depending on where needed. On the Rangoon/Moulmein front its quiet. The big news is two convoys completely offloaded at Rangoon without a single air attack - Rangoon now has plenty of naval support to assist in offloading and engineers are busily expanding the port, and plenty of supply convoys are inbound.

In the IO, the Canadian Bde will begin loading at Trinkat as troop shuttling continues. 8 APAs have completed refit at Bombay and will head to Colombo. With the APAs refitted and the CVs coming back in service from repaired damage, November will see a resumption of offensive operations - especially if the KB stays off Babar. With two Essex class CVs still in the yards, and Sara still repairing, the Allied Death Star isn’t ready to tackle the KB just yet.






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In CENPAC, minesweeping TF of two DMSs clears about 50 mines at Ponape, but CD batteries blast the event the quick DMSs. Was hoping that a DMS was going to be more survivable than slower AMs in minesweeping with CD gun threat.


Regrettably not. Any minesweeper, no matter how fast, seems to be easy prey to the CD guns. I lost 7 cleaning out the mines at Truk against the AI. Mix of YMS and DMS, didn't really seem to matter what I tried.

I'm curious to see how the air war continues at and near Babar. That last turn was expensive, though you did at least get something for your money.

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In CENPAC, minesweeping TF of two DMSs clears about 50 mines at Ponape, but CD batteries blast the event the quick DMSs. Was hoping that a DMS was going to be more survivable than slower AMs in minesweeping with CD gun threat.


Regrettably not. Any minesweeper, no matter how fast, seems to be easy prey to the CD guns. I lost 7 cleaning out the mines at Truk against the AI. Mix of YMS and DMS, didn't really seem to matter what I tried.

I'm curious to see how the air war continues at and near Babar. That last turn was expensive, though you did at least get something for your money.


Yeah jwolf, I'm learning by doing in much of this. Haven't played this far into a game before, so reading the forum and experimenting is the road ahead. Sending in minesweepers ahead of an amphib is a no go. But what about a minesweeping TF going in WITH the amphibs? As well as keeping some minesweepers with the Amph and Bombardment TFs of course.

As for Babar, its going to be tough to hang on if L_S_T really wants it. I can perhaps make it expensive, but if he throws in more troops and isolates it with the IJN, its going to fall eventually. My goal at this point is to make it painful - and to continue to advance in other Theaters.

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Embedding is the best way to protect the minesweepers. They will sweep the path for the TF while the CD guns usually go after transports and ships providing suppressing fire like BBs and CAs. Once your forces have detected all the minefields present, there is little chance of hitting them, unswept or not.

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Embedding is the best way to protect the minesweepers. They will sweep the path for the TF while the CD guns usually go after transports and ships providing suppressing fire like BBs and CAs. Once your forces have detected all the minefields present, there is little chance of hitting them, unswept or not.


Fully agree - limited recent experience is bearing that out in spades!

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Highlights – Troops ashore at Ponape; IJN pulls back from Babar to replenish(?) at Ambon while counter-landing at Damar Is

Jpn ships sunk:
DD: 1 (Natsushio)
xAK: 3

Allied ships sunk:
SS: 1 (Gunard - succumbs to damage from ASW a/c while eroute to port)

Air loss:
Jpn: 61
Allied: 30

Subwar:
Jpn: 0 Attacks, 0 ships hit
Allies: 2 Attacks, 0 ships hit

Jpn Amph Inv:
Damar Is (SWPAC)

Allied Amph:
Ponape (CENPAC)

Bases lost: None

Bases Liberated: None

SIGINT/Intel: IJN is now concentrated at Ambon; I’m assuming this is to replenish aircraft, rearm ships and perhaps load additional troops and supplies for Babar.

West Coast/Admin: NSTR.

In NOPAC, NSTR.

In CENPAC, Ponape landings go in better than expected. Remaining mines are cleared by minesweepers in the Amph TF (so my lesson learned is to keep more minesweepers in the Amph TF rather than separate mineseweeping TFs), although BB Pensy takes mine hit for 1 float dam. CD guns are active during the lands and naval bombardments, but as planned BB Pensy absorbs the majority of hits, taking 13 sys dam, but no critical systems lost. CA San Francisco, part of the bombardment TF, also takes 14 sys dam, but again, nothing critical. CD guns otherwise did not interfere with the landings, well under 500 troops lost/disabled in the division sized landings. Troops ashore are fatigued, so any attacks are on hold for a turn or so. LBA bombings will continue to pound ground targets and the port. All but two AKAs are fully offloaded, so the fleet less BB Pensy and some escorts with the two AKAs, as well as the CVE TF, will withdraw. Overall, I’m pleased with the outcome of the landings. I feared worse. That said, defenders are as expected, fairly robust, with four Naval Guard units and the Ponape Naval Fortress. I expect it will be a tough fight ashore, although the defenders should be low on supply from the prep the LBA has been handing out. This landing culminates the Marshall campaign, much of the assault shipping will head to SOPAC for operations on the New Guinea coast, leaving enough to lift a Bde plus support sized landing to clear the remaining few islands - or if things go poorly on Ponape, to bring in reinforcements.

In SOPAC, little activity on Umboi as neither side bombards or attacks. US Task Forces arrive back in the Solomons at Vella and Shortlands where warships re-arm and transports begin loading the US 33rd Div. They should depart next turn to Umboi. Shipping is also being made available for smaller landings on the New Guinea north coast, to be supported only by DDs, which will continue to conduct patrols along New Guinea. Also at sea, a barge convoy wonders into the Umboi area and loses 12 of about 18 barges in two engagements. On the ground, the IJA’s 38th Div in the jungles at Salamaua continues to be a tough nut to crack, and continues to hold off attacks of the composite NZ Div - this time 263 IJA loss to 643 Allied. Allied troops also need to rest. This division looks like it will be able to withdraw back to Lae despite the Allies holding both Salamaua and Wau. If so, we’ll leave Lae alone and let starvation take its toll.

In SWPAC, the US LRCAP over Babar does surprisingly well - largely due to the IJN withdrawing back to Ambon during the first night. Two IJN TFs (2CA, 2CL, DDs / CA, 3CL, DDs) bombard Babar during the night with no effect. In daylight, Jpn LBA with Bettys and Frances, unescorted, hit the USMC Def Bn with no effect, but fly UNDER the P-47 LRCAP which I had set at 25k and 30k thinking they would be battling fighter sweeps which never came. Opportunity missed! P-47s did manage to intercept IJN Jills, also flying unescorted (likely from CVs at Ambon) with good results, splashing 13. Hopefully some good torpedo pilots were killed! The P-38 squadron I sent to sweep Koepang, engaged a robust Zero CAP, downing 26 for only 4 P-38s. A good day in the air! Last item from the turn was curious, landing what appears to be a single IJA Co sized element at Damar - defended by a USMC Para Bn. Not enough to take the island, so not sure what’s the intent here. For next turn, with the IJN at Ambon at start, I’m going to send two DMs to lay fresh mines at Babar, and hope for the best there. Will also continue LRCAP over Babar, as I’m sure the IJA/IJN air will be back in force. Stacking CAP this time with three squadrons (P-47s, F6Fs, and Spit VIIIs), but the 6 hex range will still minimize effectiveness and limit solid numbers. Will also sweep Koepang again, this time with F4Us. Remaining air strength continues to replenish numbers, so by the time the IJN returns to Babar, it will be ready to resume the fight.

In China, NSTR.

In Burma, the big news is really a small admin move - Heavies now basing at Magwe and Prome as the majority of the bomber force is moved out of India. This will greatly increase effective strike range in the coming months - and will start small by hitting Moulmein next turn. Elsewhere, the two attacks on the Lashio front are held, but the IJA force continues to be ground down. On the Paoshan road front, I need to shift out two Chinese units to make room for the arriving fresh US and Brit forces coming from the Lashio side due to stacking issues. The bloody IJA’s 65th Bde is still being painfully stubborn. On the Bhamo road front, the US 27th Div’s attack is held, but losses were minimal and rest is needed before the assault can be resumed. On the Rangoon/Moulmein front, forces still need to shift and move into place before an any assault can happen; by that time, I’m pretty confident L_S_T will have pulled back across the river to the Moulmein line proper and we’ll have a good stalemate for a while. I have a small chance to force the river upstream near Chiang Mai, where I try to move a Division across to a hex defended by a single battalion - but I’m pretty sure that unit will be reinforced before I can get a division across. I’m really in no rush here as I want to clear the road to Paoshan first, and the supply and troop buildup via ship to Rangoon has just started.

In the IO, the Canadian Bde finished loading at Trinkat and is enroute to Colombo. One Bde to go at Car Nicobar, as well as an engineer regiment at Trinkat, with shipping enroute. So far, its quiet other than the occasional sub nuisance. Once the shipping has completed its troop transfers, airpower in the Andamans will look to reach out more offensively, starting with fighter sweeps of the primary IJA active airbase in range, Victoria Point.



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