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RE: A World on Fire - 8/27/2014 9:35:13 PM   
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The attack is a complete success and the German forces are lucky at the moment. Maybe there is a die God that they sacrificed to before the attack? Anyway, I had a bad feeling before the attack so now I feel a bit dumb that I worried.

That should teach those English to meddle in our affairs!



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RE: A World on Fire - 8/27/2014 11:11:25 PM   
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Things can open up for the Germans now, once their reserves come back from finishing off Poland. Antwerp is vulnerable, with 3 non-river hexes to attack from, they can outflank the French line.

Of course, the Germans need some good weather and the rest of the Army to make that happen.

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RE: A World on Fire - 8/28/2014 4:43:20 AM   
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Nicely done! But with Blitz you would have taken Lille. Now French can put some troops there. Good thing for Germans is that it means even thinner line for French...

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RE: A World on Fire - 8/28/2014 5:13:09 AM   
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As the attacked hex cost two movement points, due to rain, to advance into so I was not allowed to make a breakthrough even if I had gotten such a result. So advancing into Lille was never in the equation on what combat table to select.

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RE: A World on Fire - 8/28/2014 5:45:47 AM   
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Nevertheless, I just don't like too chancy strategies such as this.

Not in solo play : one can always experiment.

But against real opponents, you sometimes meet people that will just quit the game when something they believe is due to them (an easy early German victory in France in that case) escapes them.

In any case, one sees the amount of luck involved.


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RE: A World on Fire - 8/28/2014 6:44:11 AM   
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Forgot the rain... If you do well with Germany I might next time try the same :)

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RE: A World on Fire - 8/28/2014 6:28:14 PM   
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No reorganization.

Turn ends on a die roll of 4.

No Partisans.

US draws a entry chit to the Japanese pool.



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RE: A World on Fire - 8/28/2014 6:43:17 PM   
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US interns Béarn and one entry chit is moved to the tension pool.

Here is a picture of the units destroyed this turn.



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RE: A World on Fire - 8/28/2014 6:50:15 PM   
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Rebuild Gort and some infantries.

You might also get the Lille militia with France (if you have no other reinforcements coming) : it would come handy! At this point, Germany has not yet won, and I'd bet it'll use its second offensive for that.

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RE: A World on Fire - 8/28/2014 6:57:21 PM   
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Unfortunately there is no Lille militia. If it were it would have been of highest priority to build it.

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RE: A World on Fire - 8/28/2014 8:50:17 PM   
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Unfortunately there is no Lille militia. If it were it would have been of highest priority to build it.


My bad! I thought there was...

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RE: A World on Fire - 8/29/2014 8:32:42 PM   
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All the fighting this turn has some consequences now when it is time to pay with oil in order to reorganize units.

Japan use two oil, CW three oil and France use 1 oil and these three nations reorganize all their units.

Germany, however, think that reorganizing all their units and pay 4 oil for that leave no oil reserves for the future decide to only use three oil and leave most of the fleet and the ATR disorganized for the upcoming turn.



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RE: A World on Fire - 8/29/2014 8:41:45 PM   
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This is what the different nations produce.

China (5)
1 INF
2 CAV Div

CW (11)
1 HQI (Gort)
1 FTR2
2 Pilots

France (4)
2 MIL

USA (11)
1 CV
1 CP
1 TRS
1 Pilot
1 NAV3
1 CVP1

USSR (8)
1 LND4
1 INF
Save 1 BP

Germany (17)
Germany scrap 3 LND3 and 1 LND2
4 Pilots
1 FTR2
1 FTR3
1 LND2
1 MIL

Italy (3)
1 Pilot
Save 1 BP

Japan (11)
1 MECH¨
1 TERR
2 MIL

Denmark is completely conquered and the Danish territories turn neutral.
Belgium is incompletely conquered and pick India as its new home country.

And a picture of the upcoming reinforcements.





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RE: A World on Fire - 8/29/2014 8:58:13 PM   
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Germany and Japan destroy a few captured factories.

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Germany place a FTR2 and a LND2 from the reserves. CW also place a FTR2 and a LND2 from the reserves. France place a FTR2. Italy reinforce their airforce with a decent LND3. USSR remove two FTR2. The quality of the aircrafts that were picked form the reserve pool were depressing.

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RE: A World on Fire - 8/29/2014 9:10:05 PM   
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CW lend 1 resource and 1 oil to France. Not really sure on how much to send to France in this situation. I ended up with sending fairly little. Maybe i should have sent some build points.

Allies really needed to win this initiative but the Axis roll settled it before the Allies even got to roll the die.




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RE: A World on Fire - 8/29/2014 9:21:10 PM   
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There was 30% chance of fine weather this impulse and if the weather had been fine then I suspect that the French front had crumbled but now, with the worst weather possible, and a likely short turn the weather might save France. Luck, as had been said before, play a big part if Germany makes a early French campaign.

Germany finds some comfort in that Lille is undefended. Getting a double impulse can at times be a great advantage.



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RE: A World on Fire - 8/29/2014 9:36:48 PM   
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I don't like the look of that dirty great gap west of Antwerp

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RE: A World on Fire - 8/29/2014 9:42:36 PM   
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quote:

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I don't like the look of that dirty great gap west of Antwerp

Strange. The Germans like that gap a lot. They do, however, dislike the weather.

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RE: A World on Fire - 8/29/2014 10:44:47 PM   
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No declarations of war. Italy pondered for a while on whether or not to declare war on France but in the end it was decided against it. Not much to gain by declaring war in such bad weather.

Japan grumbles something about China and the lousy weather and selects a combined impulse in order to bring more reinforcements to China. With no good ports for the German U-boats and almost no organized ships there is no real point for Germany to select anything but a land impulse.

No Port Strikes. No naval air.

Japan send out two transporters to China Sea ferrying two militia. Italy move a submarine to the West Mediterranean.

No strategic bombing.

No ground strikes! Germany longed for ground striking the hex southeast of Lille but with no German fighters within intercept range of that hex and two French fighters within range they decide against it. Germany has few enough fighters on the west front as it is. The need to rebase Luftwaffe is great so that will use up the German air actions anyway.

Germany rail a infantry corps from Denmark to East Prussia, a garrison and a militia to the west front. Japan rail a garrison to central China.

Germany moves into Lille without a fight. Germany moves most of their army in Belgium one hex west. In Poland the German units tries to encircle Warsaw but that pesky Polish reinforcement is partly in the way.



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RE: A World on Fire - 8/30/2014 7:15:22 AM   
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Japan debark two militia in the south of China.

Germany rebase four fighters towards the west front. Japan rebase a NAV2 to Central China.

No reorganization.

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Our intelligence report that the First Siberian Army is deployed close to the Persian border. A Soviet invasion of Persia could be imminent. Should we prepare to send help to Persia? If we do there is a risk that USSR invade Manchuria in response to our actions in Persia.




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RE: A World on Fire - 8/30/2014 7:17:47 AM   
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Japan debark two militia in the south of China.

Germany rebase four fighters towards the west front. Japan rebase a NAV2 to Central China.

No reorganization.

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Our intelligence report that the First Siberian Army is deployed close to the Persian border. A Soviet invasion of Persia could be imminent. Should we prepare to send help to Persia? If we do there is a risk that USSR invade Manchuria in response to our actions in Persia.



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Sorry Orm but whose the "we" here?

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RE: A World on Fire - 8/30/2014 7:25:57 AM   
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quote:

Sorry Orm but whose the "we" here?

I thought that the invade Manchuria comment would reveal that we referred to Japan.

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RE: A World on Fire - 8/30/2014 7:43:37 AM   
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quote:

Sorry Orm but whose the "we" here?

I thought that the invade Manchuria comment would reveal that we referred to Japan.
warspite1

Yes quite - I just hadn't put Japan and Persia together. I would be interested to see how that pans out!


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RE: A World on Fire - 8/30/2014 8:13:21 AM   
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No declarations of war.

CW must select a combined and France must select a land impulse. This in order to have a chance to contain the German forces.

No Port Strikes. No naval air.

I wonder if CW should evacuate Antwerp now that they have that possibility. Since CW can't reinforce it this impulse it might be the prudent thing to do. What do you think?



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RE: A World on Fire - 8/30/2014 8:21:53 AM   
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I think they have to. If the Germans take out the stack east of Rouen then the way is completely open to roll up the French from the north. The CW units would not be affecting the Germans from Antwerp - and not contributing to holding them up. They need to be in the way.

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RE: A World on Fire - 8/30/2014 9:45:09 AM   
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I think they have to. If the Germans take out the stack east of Rouen then the way is completely open to roll up the French from the north. The CW units would not be affecting the Germans from Antwerp - and not contributing to holding them up. They need to be in the way.

CW plan to land troops in Boulogne, or maybe Rouen. This regardless of whether the troops remain in Antwerp or not. But to stay in Antwerp with only 8 in defence might not be wise when they can be attacked from 4 hexes. So the wise thing here might be to evacuate before they have disorganized units in Antwerp. On the other hand remaining there with troops might annoy and slow Germany. Advice is welcome.


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RE: A World on Fire - 8/30/2014 9:51:28 AM   
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quote:

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I think they have to. If the Germans take out the stack east of Rouen then the way is completely open to roll up the French from the north. The CW units would not be affecting the Germans from Antwerp - and not contributing to holding them up. They need to be in the way.

CW plan to land troops in Boulogne, or maybe Rouen. This regardless of whether the troops remain in Antwerp or not. But to stay in Antwerp with only 8 in defence might not be wise when they can be attacked from 4 hexes. So the wise thing here might be to evacuate before they have disorganized units in Antwerp. On the other hand remaining there with troops might annoy and slow Germany. Advice is welcome.

warspite1

I would still evacuate, but will leave to people who can actually play this game properly to add their weight.


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RE: A World on Fire - 8/30/2014 2:27:04 PM   
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I would replace the MOT in Antwerp with two MIL, it's a good airbase for CW fighters and can allow CW bombers to ground strike German HQs and Stukas. It also means the Germans have to leave units in the rear areas to screen the city.

Then land in Rouen to keep the Germans from completely outflanking the French.

Edit: Probably you'll have to land in Rouen first, then reinforce Antwerp.

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RE: A World on Fire - 8/30/2014 4:12:04 PM   
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I don't know how much naval lift is available for the CW; I doubt there is enough for composer99's plan. There is little point in 8 defense points in Antwerp. First priority is getting units into Boulogne. Second priority is dealing with Antwerp. The most efficient use of naval transport would be to get Gort into Boulogne, with the land units in Antwerp place on top of him. Alternatively, a better divisional unit might be substituted for the INF XX. (In particular, an AA or AT gun.)

I find that there is never enough naval transport, so try and conserve it. (OK. The Germans frequently have enough for all they want to do, because more often then not what they want to do is nothing, but everyone else has the problem.)

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RE: A World on Fire - 8/30/2014 6:51:40 PM   
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You have not brought wavell back ? So you just leave the French to themselves because there is nothing you can do for them... Keeping Antwerp is a bad idea ; making it an airbase, as suggested, is worse: for what purpose ? The British air force cannot help the French. And planes disorganized in Antwerp when the Germans capture it will be toast too...

So you just pull out and watch the French die. Or you bring back Wavell as fast as you can to hold Rouen. But that won't prevent the fall of France : the best for you is to land Wavell and some units in Bordeaux. This will annoy Germany to no end, as if you do it properly, Vichy can't be declared before Bordeau is captured! (iirc the british units should stay in Bordeau, and the place is almost unpregnable as long as Vichy lasts.)

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