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The Darkest Hour: Treaty Mod Allies - 8/8/2014 7:11:34 AM   
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John 3rd and I have started a new game. RA Treaty Mod

First notices is a some new CVLs for each side and BCs.

John is a very aggresive player. Come to think about it so am I. Not sure where this thread will go, so away I go.

Dec 7th
Arizona lost at Pearl and not much damage to the fleet at Manila.
Landings of importance--Kuantan, Miri

Dec 8th--
Japanese Ships
SS I-158 sinks
SS KXII, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage do not like
CL Mauritius( fire but fightable) takes on the Kongo and Haruna at Kuantan one IJn DD on fire

DD Scout and Thanet ---Damage 3 AKs, AV Sagra Maru SUNK and DMS W-4 SUNK at Miri, LIKE

KB headed back towards Midway and Mini KB towards southern Phillippines, also 1 CVE? north of Miri

At this point will be moving at much as I can towards Suva and Nouema. The 34th combat eng is headed to Midway by airlift and will build up the base.

John will have a plan for the future so I have to believe he can be going for India, OZ, Midway, Canton-- Suva

I am using almost all of the long range bombers, PBYs on search to get as clear a picture as I can of fleet movements.

After the next day of combat will; start a complete plan of bases to build




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RE: The Darkest Hour: Treaty Mod Allies - 8/8/2014 7:46:50 AM   
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Good luck! This will be interesting to watch. Although I've read about some of the differences in the scenario, it'll be interesting to hear your thoughts as you go on how these additions and changes alter the feel of the game for the early war Allies.

It seems a good many games have started lately with an early para-drop in a critical area; Malaya, cutting retreats to Singers; China, behind the lines at Ankang. Beware unattended bases!

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RE: The Darkest Hour: Treaty Mod Allies - 8/8/2014 1:08:44 PM   
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I already am expecting the paras.

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RE: The Darkest Hour: Treaty Mod Allies - 8/8/2014 4:32:35 PM   
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Good day in air-- Phillippines Air command - 8/8/2014 7:49:29 PM   
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Air battles over Manila and Clark Field --19 destroyed Betties and another 13 damaged one strike had 21 Betties unescorted against 20 P-40s.

Lost track of KB but reports show it near Midway.

POW and Repluse will probably engage IJN TFs near the NW corner of Boreno tomorrow.

Hong Kong first assault 1 to 2

No para drops in Malaya yet-- wonder near they are.

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RE: Good day in air-- Phillippines Air command - 8/9/2014 3:17:33 PM   
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Dec 10 Quite. Have lost tract of the KB Mini KB. East of Borneo

No major engage with POW heading back to port. The amount of Allied cargo ships lost has been low so far. I decide to slowly release the ships. With all the search aircraft I have up I can see where all his surface fleets are. Where I see holes in coverage, off go a few more transports.

I have a few more days before I have to think about where the CVs are going.



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RE: The Darkest Hour: Treaty Mod Allies - 8/12/2014 8:02:37 PM   
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A couple of IJN tankers hit by US subs north of the Phillippines. Canton Island falls. Astoria hit by IJN sub north of Canton.

I believe the KB has split a portion south of Midway. Midwaya level two fort plus most of the 34 combat engineers are there now. Moving subs with mines to support.

A invasion is headed to Ambon. Should meet a few US CAs plus the CL Marblehead. Mini KB is following the invasion. Maybe this will popcorn time.

Mersing landed at. Hong Kong still holds. Zeros are now flying sweep mission over Manila, I wonder why. Maybe lost a few many Bettys

Overall it is still very quite.



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Holding pattern - 8/13/2014 5:02:19 AM   
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We are in holding pattern. Game crashed on John for some reason. We redid the 12/14 turn. Popcorn has to be remade.

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Heating up-- Invasions are a coming - 8/14/2014 8:13:54 PM   
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Well to start with after game crash we are back in the swing of things

First, is a landing should be happening in the next day. Midway has been reinforced with the 34 Combat Engineers and is at a level two. KB North is supporting the invasion and I have two separte surface fleets with CAs headed to Midway. PLus a bunch of subs with mines, but they are a couple of days out. Should have moved them sooner. I was going to put a sq of SBDs on Midway, again they are at Johnson Is now.

KB South ambush a transport TF headed to Christmas Is. Lost a couple APs , couple of AKs and 2 DMSs . TF was carrying a Marine Def Bn. The KB is northeast of Christmas IS now.

Kendari- landings there istead of Ambon. Can't really stop any of this.

Gasmata landed at with a small force.( IJN AF) Should see some float planes soon. Rabaul will be heating up real soon. A SQ of SBDs is there now with fighter support. With the KB somewhere else, I should be able to bring in enough surface combat ships to make a fight of it.

Hong Kong survived another day. Last assault was a 1-2 Maybe there will be Christmas in Hong Kong this year.

Last thing is to think thru where KB South will go. KB- South is stronger than KB North.. Is this a raid into the central Pacific. If I can find the AOs maybe I can do some damage.

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Midway Falls - 8/15/2014 4:36:43 AM   
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Midway falls--Well new plan has to be made

KB South still between Pearl and Christmas. I have a CA now looking for a fleet train west and south of Johnston

6 BBs bombarded Rabaul. Guess John wants to Rabaul, he has little air support. With Midway fallen the KB can be back to truck in two weeks or so and down to Rabaul.

Quite in the DEI area. Dutch are a using the shovels as fast as they can. Mini KB is Southeast of Kendari, and could make the trip to Port Morsbey. I have to keep an eye on that.

All B-17 plus PBYs are now searhing with over laps in alot of areas in the Pacific. Phillippine B-17s headed to Eastern OZ

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Dec 19-27 - 8/21/2014 10:39:20 PM   
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Been awhile on the update.

Christmas Island fell on the 21st. Midway and now Christmas wonder what John is up to. KB South was lurking in the area up till the 25th haven't sighted since.

Everything else was quite to the 25th.

Hong Kong on the 27th still in British hands. On the 26th the IJA advances into Singapore with 1-4 result.

Amph TF sight outside of Palembang on the 25th. 26th 4 CLs Dutch and British hold off the invasion very little sunk on either side-- but I was able to destroy 16 sqs, non combat Invasion put off for one more day as both sides withdrew. CLs to Batavia IJN back to where ever. They do come back on the 27th on make the landings

The big event is the running battle on the 26th of Kongo and Myoko vs the POW and Repluse outside of Batavia. POW is damage with about 21 float and total damage a little over 50. I believe the Myoko has been sunk Kongo hvy damage. Airstrike from Batavia after surface battle a Swordfish get a hit with a torpedo.

Night Time Surface Combat, near Oosthaven at 49,96, Range 11,000 Yards Round 1

Japanese Ships
BC Kongo, Shell hits 1
CA Myoko, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD Hatsukaze, Shell hits 1
DD Natsushio, on fire
DD Yukikaze


Allied Ships
BB Prince of Wales, Shell hits 1, heavy fires
BC Repulse, Shell hits 1
CL De Ruyter, Shell hits 1
DD Pope, Shell hits 1
DD Vampire, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD Electra
DD Express

Day Time Surface Combat, near Oosthaven at 49,96, Range 21,000 Yards Round 2

Japanese Ships
BC Kongo, Shell hits 3, on fire
CA Myoko, Shell hits 5, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Hatsukaze, Shell hits 1
DD Natsushio, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD Yukikaze
DD Murasame, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD Harusame
DD Yudachi, Shell hits 1


Allied Ships
BC Repulse, Shell hits 7
CL De Ruyter
DD Pope, Shell hits 3, heavy fires
DD Vampire
DD Electra, Shell hits 3, on fire


Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 14
Vildebeest III x 3
139WH-3 x 6
B-339D x 8
Swordfish I x 6

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
BC Kongo, Torpedo hits 1, on fire

Last is the 6 BBs from Truk made a run on Rabaul, but a naval air strike from the US/Aust CVLs made a strike-- of course with no damage done.Those same BBs were supported with a CVE all have returned to Truk without bombarding Rabaul. Probably waiting a some of the KB to show up.

DEI will be hot and heavy for the next few weeks. Not sure what John is going to do in the central/ south Pacific? I have lost Midway, Canton Is, and Christmas Is.

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December 28 - 8/22/2014 1:36:11 PM   
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Quite day. Kongo takes another torpedo from Dutch sub NW of Borneo. Palembang falls. Hong Kong still holds out.

Fast transport landing portion of a BF at Christmas Is (intell). Let's see if we can distrust some of this.

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RE: The Darkest Hour: Treaty Mod Allies - 8/22/2014 1:58:51 PM   
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From what I have seen of John's recent games he likes to cut off supply and transport between America and Australia.

He likes taking on Australia but seems less enthusiastic about India.

If you let him push far enough he will take Tahiti.

His most obvious flaw is that he overextends his forces in the initial expansion. This would cause long term issues with supply and fuel which has been indicated in his other AAR's.

I would expect him to take Perth, Darwin, Port Moresby and Horn Island. He may or may not make a strategic bombing attack on either Sydney or Melborne. He is know to raid these ports during the war to attack shipping being repaired.

For supply I would immediately start setting up convoys between South Africa and Australia probably a deep south run to Melborne would be one of the best chances although he will send air reconnaissance and interdiction forces to check this route.

For the short term I would let him expand to his heart's content. Then I would plan a multiple axis plan of attack with at least 3 main vectors. When I was ready I would start to cause trouble in the farthest place away from his CV's which he will happily respond to. Rinse and repeat until he is completely out of fuel.

I would try to kill his navy along the way ;]



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RE: The Darkest Hour: Treaty Mod Allies - 8/23/2014 1:45:27 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Wargmr

From what I have seen of John's recent games he likes to cut off supply and transport between America and Australia.

He likes taking on Australia but seems less enthusiastic about India.

If you let him push far enough he will take Tahiti.

His most obvious flaw is that he overextends his forces in the initial expansion. This would cause long term issues with supply and fuel which has been indicated in his other AAR's.

I would expect him to take Perth, Darwin, Port Moresby and Horn Island. He may or may not make a strategic bombing attack on either Sydney or Melborne. He is know to raid these ports during the war to attack shipping being repaired.

For supply I would immediately start setting up convoys between South Africa and Australia probably a deep south run to Melborne would be one of the best chances although he will send air reconnaissance and interdiction forces to check this route.

For the short term I would let him expand to his heart's content. Then I would plan a multiple axis plan of attack with at least 3 main vectors. When I was ready I would start to cause trouble in the farthest place away from his CV's which he will happily respond to. Rinse and repeat until he is completely out of fuel.

I would try to kill his navy along the way ;]





Thanks for the input. First game with John he did the India thing and it became a major stalemate. Last game he took OZ on me.. I am not going to let that happen again. I can't stop him from taking Darwin.

Big difference in what I am doing already is more search aircraft , PBYs and B-17s. I have hugh interlocking search grids. Losing Christmas Is will make it a little harder, but he is also going to have to supply the base himself. There is a lot of activity at Midway, but jJohn never has run he KB east of PH.

It is a wait and see war.

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Dec 29 - 8/23/2014 1:49:58 AM   
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Hong Kong still holds .

Houston and Boise sunk at Kendari. I never saw the cruiser force he had there. Should have had more search up from all bases. Need more aircraft. Build more build more build

There should be at shoot out at Christmas in the replay. Two US TFs are to hit. IJN has two there also. Should be interesting!!!

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Dec 30 - 8/23/2014 8:13:39 PM   
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Hong Kong still stands.

Night Time Surface Combat, near Christmas Island at 174,141, Range 10,000 Yards


Japanese Ships
CL Yura, Shell hits 2, heavy fires GOOD
CL Abukuma
CL Kitakami
CL Oi, Shell hits 9, heavy fires, heavy damage GOOD[/b]
CL Yubari
DD Amagiri, Shell hits 2, on fire
DD Akebono
DD Mutsuki, Shell hits 1
DD Kisaragi
DD Yayoi
DD Mochizuki
DD Oite
DD Hayate

Allied Ships
CL St. Louis
CL Anchorage, Shell hits 13, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk VERY BAD
DD Jarvis, Shell hits 1
DD Cassin
DD Aylwin
DD Monaghan, Shell hits 3, on fire
DD Dale, Shell hits 1

CL Anchorage is a Treaty Mod add


I have lost track of the KB wondering where are????????????????
Best guess is one two options a big towards PH and or Suva. The other is support in the Rabaul landings.

I need to determine where my carriers go. IDEAS????????????

Air raid Palembang-- Sent 16 B-17s to Batavia with most of the Dutch bombers to hit the port. 24 ships are confirmed in port, probably mostly transports.

ALLIED CONVOYS have been sent to certain locations.



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New Years Starts - 8/25/2014 11:36:29 PM   
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Caught some ships at Christmas-- Good finally

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Dec 31, 41
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Christmas Island at 174,141, Range 11,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CM Tokiwa, Shell hits 9, heavy fires Hopefully these are mine layers
CM Okinoshima, Shell hits 8, heavy fires
DD Asanagi
DD Yunagi
PB Nagata Maru, Shell hits 1
xAK Tenyo Maru, Shell hits 16, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Kamikaze Maru, Shell hits 5, heavy fires

Allied Ships
CA Portland
CL Raleigh
DD Gridley, Shell hits 5, on fire
DD McCall

KB is now south of Suva-- Hit some transport at Suva, but not much. None of the convoys floating around the Pacific with troops and aircraft

Another carrier group sighted NE of Rabaul with another TF east of Rabaul by a 500 miles. Wonder where they are going.

Palembang airstrike didn't go.

1/1/42-- New year --

Hong Kong still holds out-- Shock attack just got a 1-2 IJA must be worn out

US sub finally puts a torpedo into something- NW of Boreno Skipper of the Snapper will get a metal.
AO Notoro, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage

Palembang air strike on port.
First strike- Dutch and British
DD Uranami, Bomb hits 1, on fire-- 300KG
Second strike -- B-17s 500lbs bombs
DD Fubuki, Bomb hits 1
CA Takao, Bomb hits 2
CL Isuzu, Bomb hits 1, on fire
DD Asagumo, Bomb hits 1, on fire
We will do another tomorrow

Subis Bay falls

Lost track of KB south of Suva. Lost track of Carrier group NE of Rabaul. More search planes are up in all directions.

The real battles will be happening soon. I can count on John for that. Only I don't know where!!!!!!!!!!!!!!






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RE: New Years Starts - 8/26/2014 4:12:34 PM   
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Nice on Kongo. IRL it only took 2 to put that lady down. You may get lucky

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RE: New Years Starts - 8/27/2014 1:48:36 AM   
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quote:

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Nice on Kongo. IRL it only took 2 to put that lady down. You may get lucky


I am crossing my fingers

There was an earlier report before the battle with Kongo of it hitting a mine at Balikpapan .

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RE: New Years Starts - 8/27/2014 2:02:55 AM   
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Well the KB shows up south of Port Moresby. Catches the Houston at Horn Is running from the Mini KB. Hammer and anvil. Houston is in port but probably won' t make repairs.

Finally the long awaited Rabaul landings has happen. Hopefully Port Moresby has enough supplies.

DEI-- Landing at Merak. Faster than I was planning. Amazing some times how fast new plans have to be made. Coos Is is being built up. Two hundred mines are at Coos., but no CD guns.

Another bombardment at Christmas Island should happen this turn. SBDs have been missing the DDs there the last two days.

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Hong Kong falls - 8/28/2014 6:34:38 AM   
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Hong Kong falls .

Rabaul falls also

Almost the entire IJN air fleet is between Port Moresby and OZ. Sight and intell confirms TF headed towards Port Moresby should start landing in the next 4-7 days. Not much I can do this.

Is Noumea next or Oz? Suva should be strong enough for awhile.

First landings near Alaska.

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500 Posts - 8/28/2014 6:36:57 AM   
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500 posts only took me 13years.

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