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Back in the East STEF78 (Axis) Oshawott (USSR) - 5/11/2014 10:32:26 AM   
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While reading the Oshawott's AAR, I decided to give the german point of view of this campaign.

I prepared a global map turn 25 but overwrote it stupidly

As we play mild blizzard VC260, my aim is to win in 1942. My goals for 1941 were:
- taking Leningrad... I needed one more turn
- creating a buffer in the South and in the Center. That's the only reason of the late attacks on Rjevh and VK
- inflict dignicant damages to the red army. I heavily failed to achieve this goal. Russian's losses are very low.



Oshawott's was very keen on counterattacks but failed on 2 points:
- he didn't create a strong defence around Leningrad
- he didn't use partisans efficiently

But he globaly won the first set of the match.



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Back in the East STEF78 (Axis) Oshawott (USSR) - 5/11/2014 10:41:12 AM   
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Waiting for the blizzard....

focus on 3 sectors:

Leningrad
6 russians divs are surrounded and he will try to free them. I will use the finns to hold the line.



Smolensk

It will obviously be one the the major axis of attacks of USSR during blizzard



Donetsk

I didn't take the city which would have act as an anchor during the blizzard.



Crimea isn't a concern anymore. I've frozen the russians in this area.






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RE: Back in the East STEF78 (Axis) Oshawott (USSR) - 5/11/2014 2:10:56 PM   
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ou realy want to stay and fight where you are mate?:) i would prefer falling back at least in december and prepare a fort line , lets say, 6-8 hexes behind the front. in january, when the blizzard shock is gone you can stop falling back and defending.

it's realy a risk to fight such a strong red army with so few loses head on in december.

at least we get some action wher you decide to stay and fight.:)

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RE: Back in the East STEF78 (Axis) Oshawott (USSR) - 5/11/2014 2:17:59 PM   
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ou realy want to stay and fight where you are mate?:) i would prefer falling back at least in december and prepare a fort line , lets say, 6-8 hexes behind the front. in january, when the blizzard shock is gone you can stop falling back and defending.

it's realy a risk to fight such a strong red army with so few loses head on in december.

at least we get some action wher you decide to stay and fight.:)

I will fight north of Kaluga and retreat South. You can't hold the line in clear terrain.

But before retreating, I will use my double line of fortification and try to earn 1 or 2 turns.

In fact I've begun ti build a second defence line Briansk - Kursk - karkhov

My main concern is the Soviet cavalry corps. They are really nasty.

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RE: Back in the East STEF78 (Axis) Oshawott (USSR) - 5/11/2014 2:25:43 PM   
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ah didnt saw the 2nd defensive belt. and indeed russian cavalery is a nightmare in december espacialy when he uses his bombers and transporters to provide supply to the cavalery corps and increase their movement speed.

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RE: Back in the East STEF78 (Axis) Oshawott (USSR) - 5/12/2014 2:07:30 AM   
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espacialy when he uses his bombers and transporters to provide supply to the cavalery corps and increase their movement speed.


I am not actually doing this. I use bombers for bombing units. I think this is the intended purpose.

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Back in the East STEF78 (Axis) Oshawott (USSR) - 5/12/2014 5:11:26 PM   
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Turn 26, 11th december 1941

A view of the northern part of the front. The line holds except in the Rjevh sector where I give ground. 2 divs were surrounded but rescued. Leningrad won't be liberated easily.



And mild blizzard allows some successfull counterattacks



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Back in the East STEF78 (Axis) Oshawott (USSR) - 5/14/2014 9:04:23 PM   
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Turn 27, 18th december 1941

Heavy pressure on the Smolensk area. Oshawott managed to trap 2 Inf Div and set 2 Cav Corps (CV 6) to complete the encirclement.

I sent Von Manstein as head of the Kampfgruppe and make a huge effort to free them.

The odd is 2.1/1. YYYEESSS!!!!



In the South, my line of forts is virtually destroyed, I fall back on my second line.


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Back in the East STEF78 (Axis) Oshawott (USSR) - 5/18/2014 3:43:03 PM   
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Turn 28, 25th december 1941

I'm progressively earning experience as GHC

SHC attacks all along the front. I continue to give ground in the South.

At this time none of my units are on refit. My pools look good



Still able to counterattack and to free surrounded Inf divs another time.





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Back in the East STEF78 (Axis) Oshawott (USSR) - 5/23/2014 9:23:01 PM   
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Turn 29, 1st january 1942

The worst part of my "garbage december 1941 CV" is behind me but I'm now out of my forts in several parts of the front.



I keep on counterattacking but I'm really not that strong



Interesting devlopment around Odessa. I have to reinforce this area. the cost will be the gates of crimea but the bad guys arrive fastly also from the east



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RE: Back in the East STEF78 (Axis) Oshawott (USSR) - 5/27/2014 5:13:55 PM   
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This is very grim for axis. Did you at least destroy lots of factories? Looks like Soviet player just ran away in summer 41?

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RE: Back in the East STEF78 (Axis) Oshawott (USSR) - 5/27/2014 6:26:41 PM   
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in a way it looks like you are having a better blizzard than was to be expected given Oshawatt's excellent 1941 game.

While your manpower looks ok, the low number of tanks is going to be a problem ... hard to see how you can muster the strength to make a serious attack come the summer - but it'll be fun to watch

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RE: Back in the East STEF78 (Axis) Oshawott (USSR) - 5/27/2014 8:18:46 PM   
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Since it shows 145 ARM, it follows that you are seeing total Axis manpower in the pool. Do check the figures for Germany only.

It's not fun to bring bad news. The Hiwis should compensate.

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RE: Back in the East STEF78 (Axis) Oshawott (USSR) - 5/27/2014 8:28:30 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: jzardos

This is very grim for axis. Did you at least destroy lots of factories? Looks like Soviet player just ran away in summer 41?

I didn't destroy lots of factories. Oshawott's defence was keen and agressive. He didn't just run away.

I'm not as pessimistic as you. Blizzard is always bad for GHC and I made some mistakes (or Oschawott used good tricks) but I'm fairly confident to be able to counterattack more agressively as soon as 1-1 = 2-1 is over.

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RE: Back in the East STEF78 (Axis) Oshawott (USSR) - 5/27/2014 8:31:32 PM   
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ORIGINAL: loki100

in a way it looks like you are having a better blizzard than was to be expected given Oshawatt's excellent 1941 game.

While your manpower looks ok, the low number of tanks is going to be a problem ... hard to see how you can muster the strength to make a serious attack come the summer - but it'll be fun to watch

We are end january and I didn't loose a single german regiment. The cost is that I gave him the opportunity to build lots of guards.

I don't think that my low tank pool is a problem. As already said, 1941's tanks are useless in 1943

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RE: Back in the East STEF78 (Axis) Oshawott (USSR) - 5/27/2014 8:33:57 PM   
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ORIGINAL: gingerbread

Since it shows 145 ARM, it follows that you are seeing total Axis manpower in the pool. Do check the figures for Germany only.

It's not fun to bring bad news. The Hiwis should compensate.

You're right, I already made the same mistake. I will check it next turn.

And thanks for the "bad news". It's better to know the truth than to have wrong datas!

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Back in the East STEF78 (Axis) Oshawott (USSR) - 5/27/2014 8:38:52 PM   
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Turn 30, 8th january 1942

Same heavy pressure from SHC. I'm trying to use the cities as anchors and continue to counterattack as much as possible.


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RE: Back in the East STEF78 (Axis) Oshawott (USSR) - 6/2/2014 9:43:44 PM   
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Turn 31, 15th january 1942

Focus on the extreme South of the front. Oshawott sends more troops in Odessa and takes another port. I send 2 more Inf divs in the area.

Who is the mouse and who is the cat?


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RE: Back in the East STEF78 (Axis) Oshawott (USSR) - 6/3/2014 7:51:38 AM   
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attacking out of crim paninsula isn't that easy for the red army. they don't have an intact railroad there if axis had captured crim previously and gave up the area in the blizzard. don't know if that is the case in this game.

if he nwas able to hold crim and therefore has an injtact rail supply there then you have a problem.

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RE: Back in the East STEF78 (Axis) Oshawott (USSR) - 6/3/2014 7:11:14 PM   
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@Bigbaba

Once the connection to the main rail system is cut the entire rail in the Crimea is useless. However, Yevpatoria is a port and can support a Russian attack out of Crimea to some extend.

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RE: Back in the East STEF78 (Axis) Oshawott (USSR) - 6/4/2014 6:03:58 PM   
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attacking out of crim paninsula isn't that easy for the red army. they don't have an intact railroad there if axis had captured crim previously and gave up the area in the blizzard. don't know if that is the case in this game.

if he nwas able to hold crim and therefore has an injtact rail supply there then you have a problem.

Not taking Odessa during summer was a mistake. But it's done.

Now, when I'm looking at the map, I see a lot of opportunities when 1v1 = 2v1 is over.

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Back in the East STEF78 (Axis) Oshawott (USSR) - 6/5/2014 2:42:14 PM   
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Turn 32, 22th january 1942

Heavy pressure all along the front. Nothing dramatic but hot situations. Oshawott is keen on calculation. Very few helds despite strong activation system.

Focus on 3 areas

1) Novgorod

It was a good anchor but I have to evacuate the city. SHC is making an important effort to free Leningrad. I'm too weak to take the city, the finns are too strong for him, that's the only way



2) Center - clear terrain

I try to use the cities as anchors. Dangerous game, earning one more turn can cost surrounded units.



3) Odessa / Crimea

He is obviously trying to realize the junction.At a moment I was tempted by a gambit letting him succeed in order to harvest in march or may. But it would be a waste of time. I have other goals for may 1942.


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RE: Back in the East STEF78 (Axis) Oshawott (USSR) - 6/5/2014 2:51:50 PM   
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impressed that you are still quite optimistic

I think I'd be hiding behind the sofa by now ...

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RE: Back in the East STEF78 (Axis) Oshawott (USSR) - 6/5/2014 9:06:51 PM   
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I think I'd be hiding behind the sofa by now


Don't sell the bearskin before killing it. This game has the potential for huge mistakes with drastic consequences. I will wait until 43 before making any predictions.

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RE: Back in the East STEF78 (Axis) Oshawott (USSR) - 6/6/2014 10:01:31 PM   
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quote:

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impressed that you are still quite optimistic

Life is more beautiful when you're optimistic

quote:



I think I'd be hiding behind the sofa by now ...

I won't!

The game isn't over. I already tried a full defensive game against Schascha and it doesn't work against a good russian player. And I think that Oshawott is a good russian player!

My goals:
- survive to the blizzard, it will be done, we are late february and 1v1 = 2v1 is soon away
- try to get the 260 VC before fall 1942
- if not, get a draw



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RE: Back in the East STEF78 (Axis) Oshawott (USSR) - 6/6/2014 10:04:33 PM   
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I think I'd be hiding behind the sofa by now


Don't sell the bearskin before killing it. This game has the potential for huge mistakes with drastic consequences. I will wait until 43 before making any predictions.

I don't think that you will make huge mistakes

And maybe you you have written wolfskin as bear is the symbol of Russia...

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RE: Back in the East STEF78 (Axis) Oshawott (USSR) - 6/6/2014 10:43:59 PM   
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And maybe you you have written wolfskin as bear is the symbol of Russia...


Good point! Technically, however, it would have to be the Eagle.

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Back in the East STEF78 (Axis) Oshawott (USSR) - 6/7/2014 1:25:10 PM   
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Turn 33, 29th january 1942

SHC pressure continues.

Focus on 2 sectors:

Kharkov
Oshawott tried an encirclement of the city. Strong counterattacks are required and the city is evacuated.



Odessa
Junction by ground won't occur. Ochakov is taken.



And the view of the german attacks




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Back in the East STEF78 (Axis) Oshawott (USSR) - 6/8/2014 2:03:10 PM   
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Turn 34, 5th February

Situation is serious for the german army.

1) I spend most of my AP to replace the good leaders dismissed by e-adolf

2) I'm now facing a lot of guards units and in 2 sectors of the front I'm only a punching ball
- between south-Briansk and Kursk
- between Kherson and Zaporoje

3)My armanent pool is at zero for several weeks so even Inf Divs in refit mode don't see their CV climb



4) I pay the price for not taking Odessa during summer. All my reinforcements are sent here



5) In the north, SHC is very close from cutting the vital rail line



Positive points, I'm still able to counterattack



And in real time the game is in march 1942, with my defensive CV climbing!!!






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Back in the East STEF78 (Axis) Oshawott (USSR) - 6/8/2014 5:42:07 PM   
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Turn 35, 12 th february 1942

Despite numerous attacks Pskov, Smolensk and Briansk sectors hold.

Fighting retreat in the southern part of the front.

In the extreme South situation becomes chaotic. Lower Dniepr is crossed. Near Kherson I have 3 german divs and nothing valuable South of Zaporoje.

Oshaowott attacks out of Odessa. Fortunatly, 3 divs arrive as reinforcement. I will be able to get the initiative back.

I attack north of Odessa and sacrify a Mot to show him that it is dangerous to be far away from the port.


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