Stupid AI Tricks

CapAndGown · Post by **CapAndGown** » Tue Feb 04, 2003 11:22 pm

I decided to start cataloguing all the stupid things I have seen in UV to demonstrate that only a few things are dumber than the AI. In this battle, for instance, of 26 fighters that should have been escorting my bombers, only 16 actually did so. And even then, they only escorted one group of torpedo bombers. Out of 41 torpedo bombers, only 6 survived.

Fortunately, my dive bombers were able to get through.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 06/04/42

Weather: Clear

Sub attack at 9,33

Japanese Ships
BB Haruna
DD Arashi

Allied Ships
SS Nautilus

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Air attack on TF, at 9,33

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 18

Allied aircraft
TBF Avenger x 6
B-26 Marauder x 4

Allied aircraft losses
TBF Avenger x 5 destroyed
TBF Avenger x 1 damaged
B-26 Marauder x 2 destroyed
B-26 Marauder x 2 damaged

Japanese Ships
CV Akagi

Attacking Level Bombers:
2 x B-26 Marauder at 200 feet

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Air attack on TF, at 9,33

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 18

Allied aircraft
B-17 Fortress x 15

Japanese aircraft losses
no losses

Allied aircraft losses
no losses

Japanese Ships
CV Hiryu
CV Soryu

Attacking Level Bombers:
3 x B-17 Fortress at 20000 feet
3 x B-17 Fortress at 20000 feet
3 x B-17 Fortress at 20000 feet
3 x B-17 Fortress at 20000 feet
3 x B-17 Fortress at 20000 feet

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Air attack on TF, at 9,33

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 54

Allied aircraft
SBD Dauntless x 16

Japanese aircraft losses
no losses

Allied aircraft losses
SBD Dauntless x 8 destroyed
SBD Dauntless x 6 damaged

Japanese Ships
CV Hiryu

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Air attack on TF, at 9,33

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 54

Allied aircraft
TBD Devastator x 11

Japanese aircraft losses
no losses

Allied aircraft losses
TBD Devastator x 1 destroyed
TBD Devastator x 4 damaged

Japanese Ships
BB Haruna
CV Akagi

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Air attack on TF, at 9,33

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 54

Allied aircraft
TBD Devastator x 15

Japanese aircraft losses
no losses

Allied aircraft losses
TBD Devastator x 15 destroyed

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Air attack on TF, at 9,33

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 54

Allied aircraft
TBD Devastator x 14

Japanese aircraft losses
no losses

Allied aircraft losses
TBD Devastator x 10 destroyed
TBD Devastator x 4 damaged

Japanese Ships
CV Hiryu

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Air attack on TF, at 9,33

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 54

Allied aircraft
F4F-3 Wildcat x 6
TBD Devastator x 12

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero x 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-3 Wildcat x 1 destroyed
F4F-3 Wildcat x 2 damaged
TBD Devastator x 10 destroyed
TBD Devastator x 2 damaged

Japanese Ships
CV Soryu

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Air attack on TF, at 9,33

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 54

Allied aircraft
F4F-3 Wildcat x 10
SBD Dauntless x 54

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero x 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-3 Wildcat x 1 destroyed
SBD Dauntless x 9 destroyed
SBD Dauntless x 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
CV Kaga, Bomb hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
CV Akagi, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
CV Soryu, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
BB Haruna

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Air attack on Midway at 43,52

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 36
D3A Val x 36
B5N Kate x 36

Allied aircraft
F2A-3 Buffalo x 20
F4F-3 Wildcat x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero x 2 destroyed
D3A Val x 1 destroyed
B5N Kate x 3 destroyed
B5N Kate x 3 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
F2A-3 Buffalo x 15 destroyed
F2A-3 Buffalo x 4 damaged
F4F-3 Wildcat x 2 destroyed
F4F-3 Wildcat x 3 damaged

Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 2

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Sub attack at 9,33

Japanese Ships
CV Kaga, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
SS Nautilus

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Air attack on TF, at 9,33

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 12

Allied aircraft
SBD Dauntless x 24

Japanese aircraft losses
no losses

Allied aircraft losses
SBD Dauntless x 3 destroyed
SBD Dauntless x 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
CV Hiryu, Bomb hits 4, on fire, heavy damage

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Air attack on TF, at 9,33

Allied aircraft
B-17 Fortress x 12

Allied aircraft losses
no losses

Japanese Ships
CV Hiryu, on fire, heavy damage

Attacking Level Bombers:
3 x B-17 Fortress at 20000 feet
3 x B-17 Fortress at 20000 feet
3 x B-17 Fortress at 20000 feet
3 x B-17 Fortress at 20000 feet

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Air attack on TF at 43,52

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 6
D3A Val x 18

Allied aircraft
F4F-3 Wildcat x 12

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero x 3 destroyed
D3A Val x 13 destroyed
D3A Val x 3 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-3 Wildcat x 3 destroyed

Allied Ships
CV Yorktown, Bomb hits 3, on fire

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Air attack on TF at 43,52

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 6
B5N Kate x 10

Allied aircraft
F4F-3 Wildcat x 12

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero x 3 destroyed
B5N Kate x 5 destroyed
B5N Kate x 5 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-3 Wildcat x 3 damaged

Allied Ships
CV Yorktown, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

:p

thantis · Post by **thantis** » Wed Feb 05, 2003 12:07 am

Now that's funny

11Bravo · Post by **11Bravo** » Wed Feb 05, 2003 12:16 am

Originally posted by cap_and_gown
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Air attack on Midway at 43,52

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 36
D3A Val x 36
B5N Kate x 36

Allied aircraft
F2A-3 Buffalo x 20
F4F-3 Wildcat x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero x 2 destroyed
D3A Val x 1 destroyed
B5N Kate x 3 destroyed
B5N Kate x 3 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
F2A-3 Buffalo x 15 destroyed
F2A-3 Buffalo x 4 damaged
F4F-3 Wildcat x 2 destroyed
F4F-3 Wildcat x 3 damaged

Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 2

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Midway ? Buffalo's?

Some trick, the AI turned your copy of Uncommon Valor into WITP.

mogami · Post by **mogami** » Wed Feb 05, 2003 12:17 am

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11Bravo · Post by **11Bravo** » Wed Feb 05, 2003 12:33 am

Originally posted by Mogami
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You staring at your rock garden again?

XPav · Post by **XPav** » Wed Feb 05, 2003 12:47 am

**** thats some unrealistic combat reports you got going on there.

mogami · Post by **mogami** » Wed Feb 05, 2003 12:54 am

Hi, We can not delete our own posts anymore

CapAndGown · Post by **CapAndGown** » Wed Feb 05, 2003 1:23 am

Originally posted by Mogami
Hi, We can not delete our own posts anymore

Does that mean I fooled you?

denisonh · Post by **denisonh** » Wed Feb 05, 2003 1:34 am

Good one Cap and Gown!

Admiral DadMan · Post by **Admiral DadMan** » Wed Feb 05, 2003 1:49 am

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 06/06/42

Weather: Clear

Sub attack at 43,53

Allied Ships
CV Yorktown, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
DD Hammann, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage, and is sunk

Japanese Ships
I-168

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Fred98 · Post by **Fred98** » Wed Feb 05, 2003 2:28 am

So, why did the AI refuse to send all the aircraft that were available? Why did cap-and-gown allow the AI to control his troops?

Snigbert · Post by **Snigbert** » Wed Feb 05, 2003 2:52 am

Some trick, the AI turned your copy of Uncommon Valor into WITP.

You mean you dont have the Battle of Midway Variant Patch for Uncommon Valor?

Mr.Frag · Post by **Mr.Frag** » Wed Feb 05, 2003 4:17 am

Funny enough, your dead TBD's tired out all his CAP so your SBD's could come through and cream his CV's ...

Escorts are not to prevent planes from being shot down, they are there to absorb bullets and burn fuel so when it comes time to shoot at the bombers, you can't

I would REALLY LOVE to see some form of AMMO limit on planes, as when I get the message that CAP "God" has been credited with kill number 12 (during 1 fight!) I gotta wonder just what he used to shoot down the plane???

CapAndGown · Post by **CapAndGown** » Wed Feb 05, 2003 6:11 am

Originally posted by Admiral DadMan
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 06/06/42

Weather: Clear

Sub attack at 43,53

Allied Ships
CV Yorktown, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
DD Hammann, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage, and is sunk

Japanese Ships
I-168

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Hmm, I have never seen the "and is sunk" message in a sub attack report. Could it be that someone has been doctoring their AARs?

Admiral DadMan · Post by **Admiral DadMan** » Wed Feb 05, 2003 6:33 am

It was a big explosion...

Grotius · Post by **Grotius** » Wed Feb 05, 2003 7:17 am

Yes, Cap & Gown, the AI just does stuff no one would do in real life. Why, take a look at this AAR. I thought I'd spotted a couple of USN CVs in a TF in this port, so I put some of my Vals and Kates on Port Attack, and some on Naval Attack. I guess the CVs moved, but instead of tracking, finding, and attacking the CVs, my dumb AI pilots just attacked surface ships in port! Jeesh. If only I could minutely control which plane attacks which ship, as in real life.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/07/41

Weather: Partly Cloudy

Air attack on Pearl Harbor, at 40,10

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 36
B5N Kate x 40
D3A1 Val x 51

Japanese aircraft losses

B5N Kate x 11 destroyed
B5N Kate x 8 damaged
D3A1 Val x 6 destroyed
D3A1 Val x 12 damaged

Allied aircraft losses

Runway hits 52
Airbase hits 33
B-17E Fortress x 8 destroyed
B-17E Fortress x 12 damaged [snip]

Allied ground losses

Men lost 2403

Allied Ships
BB Arizona, Bomb Hits 4, Torpedo Hits 6, on fire, heavy damage
BB Oklahoma, Torpedo Hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
BB California, Bomb Hits 5, Torpedo Hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
BB West Virginia, Torpedo Hits 8, on fire, heavy damage
BB Utah, Torpedo Hits 6, on fire, heavy damage [snip]

denisonh · Post by **denisonh** » Wed Feb 05, 2003 8:37 am

Grotius, another good one!

Man, I LOVE this thread....

CapAndGown · Post by **CapAndGown** » Wed Feb 05, 2003 8:43 am

Originally posted by Grotius

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/07/41

Weather: Partly Cloudy

Air attack on Pearl Harbor, at 40,10

......

Allied Ships
BB Arizona, Bomb Hits 4, Torpedo Hits 6, on fire, heavy damage
BB Oklahoma, Torpedo Hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
BB California, Bomb Hits 5, Torpedo Hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
BB West Virginia, Torpedo Hits 8, on fire, heavy damage
BB Utah, Torpedo Hits 6, on fire, heavy damage [snip]

Torpedo hits in a port attack? Hmm, I think this AAR has been doctored as well. I am simply shocked, shocked I tell you, that anyone would do such a thing!

Grotius · Post by **Grotius** » Wed Feb 05, 2003 10:16 am

bradfordkay · Post by **bradfordkay** » Wed Feb 05, 2003 12:10 pm

After Action Report 11/12/40

Night

Air attack on TF, in port, Taranto

Allied Aircraft
Swordfish x 21

Allied Aircraft Losses
Swordfish x 2 Lost
Swordfish x 5 Damaged

Axis Ships
BB Littorio Torpedo Hits 3, Sunk
BB Conte Di Cavour Torpedo Hits 1, Sunk
BB Vittorio Veneto
BB Guilio Cesare
BB Caio Duilio Torpedo Hits 1, Aground
CA Trento Bomb Hits 1, Heavy Damage
CL Fiume Shell Hits 2
CL Zara Shell Hits 1

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