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Since I cant get Tracker to work on my PC, can anyone give me a list of allied minor / british air
groups that are replenishment? I never needed to use them before, but necessity is the mother of invention...

Can I put two groups and double a british CVE capacity?
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Terminus - I am playing a PBEM mod off ironman, but I did not add any british units. Below are picture unit 1939

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And the CVE it came in on

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ORIGINAL: topeverest

Since I cant get Tracker to work on my PC, can anyone give me a list of allied minor / british air
groups that are replenishment? I never needed to use them before, but necessity is the mother of invention...

Scanning the database in the editor, I see

No. 706 Sqn FAA
No. 722 Sqn FAA
No. 723 Sqn FAA
No. 742 Sqn FAA
No. 757 Sqn FAA
No. 797 Sqn FAA
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ORIGINAL: topeverest

Since I cant get Tracker to work on my PC, can anyone give me a list of allied minor / british air
groups that are replenishment? I never needed to use them before, but necessity is the mother of invention...

Scanning the database in the editor, I see

No. 706 Sqn FAA
No. 722 Sqn FAA
No. 723 Sqn FAA
No. 742 Sqn FAA
No. 757 Sqn FAA
No. 797 Sqn FAA

Been a while since I've played the Allies but I believe the Br replenishment groups do not function completely like the US one. You cannot increase the size to start with.
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It was deliberate again the FAA sqns did not operate in te same way as USN replenishmet sqns they were really more shore bound fleet requirements sqns that operated from forward bases or training sqns so they should not have the utility of usn replenishment sqns

It was a bit of an AI cludge to even have them start on ships

Basically a lot of RN Carriers did no have organic sqns assigned but operated from a pool of sqns

The AI cannot cope wit that it will use any carrier even if it has 0 aircraft on board

So rather than invent detachment of ficticius sqns we used some of the shore bound FAA sqns to ensure every carrier had at least 1 sqn embarked to help the AI out

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They were drawn from the list below mostly the fleet requirements or transport sqns

702 Squadron-instrument training
706 Squadron-crew pool
721 Squadron-fleet requirements unit
723 Squadron-fleet requirements unit
724 Squadron-communications sqn
1701 Squadron-air sea rescue sqn
722 Squadron-fleet requirements unit
729 Squadron-instrument training
733 Squadron-fleet requirements unit
742 Squadron-transport sqn
755 Squadron-communications sqn
756 Squadron-deck landing training sqn
757 Squadron-fighter pilots pool
797 Squadron-fleet requirements unit
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Just to prove we weren't smoking dope !!!

Exert of operational history of HMS Striker below.....clearly in replenishment mode !!!



February Joined 30th Aircraft Carrier Squadron.

(Note: HM Escort Carrier SLINGER was also in Squadron.)

These ships were to be used to carry replacement aircraft to RN

Carriers of BPF in the operational area.)

Took passage to BPF Forward base at Manus, Admiralty Islands with TF112.

Allocated to Task Unit 112.2.1 with six RFA Tankers for support of BPF ships.



March

7th Deployed at Manus for support of BPF.

19th Sailed from Manus with 18 replacement aircraft and took passage to operational area.

(Note: Participation of ships of British Pacific Fleet in attacks on Sakishima-Gunto Group

was approved by US Chiefs of Staff (Operation ICEBERG ONE).

For details of the various factors affecting use of BPF with US Navy in

operations in Pacific see THE FORGOTTEN FLEET by John Winton,

OPERATION PACIFIC by E Gray and TASK FORCE 57 by P Smith.)

BPF ships designated Task Force 57 of US 5th Fleet to be supported by TF112.

25th Deployed Replenishment Group during first refuelling of TF57 prior to operations.

Launched four replacement aircraft to Task Force 57 carriers.

28th With Replenishment Group during refuelling of TF57 ships.

Launched 13 replacement aircraft to Task Forec57 carriers and recovered three flyable

but unserviceable aircraft

Transferred AVENGER aircrew to 854 Squadron in HM Fleet Aircraft Carrier

ILLUSTRIOUS

Passage to Leyte on completion..



April Deployed for aircraft replacement during ICEBERG ONE.

(Note: Other ships in Group were HMS SPEAKER, HM Sloops CRANE and

PHEASANT, HM Frigate FINDHORN, HM Destroyers QUALITY and

WHELP with six tankers.

5th Sailed from Leyte with 14 replacement aircraft.

8th Supplied 12 replacement aircraft to Task Force 57 carriers and recovered four flyable but

unserviceable aircraft.

Transferred AVENGER aircrew to 854 Squadron in HMS ILLUSTRIOUS.

(Note: Ships of TF57 returned to Leyte on 23rd April to replenish including aircraft

replacements.

46 aircraft were ferried to TF57 Fleet Carriers during ICEBERG ONE by

HMS SLINGER and HMS STRIKER.)



May

3rd Sailed from Leyte with HMS RULER for support of TF57 ships during continuation

of air attacks on Sakishima-Gunto Group (Operation ICEBERG TWO).

6th Deployed in Replenishment area.

Transferred 15 replacement aircraft to Task Force 57 carriers.

Embarked 34 casualties from HM Fleet Aircraft Carrier FORMIDABLE

(Note: These were victims of a bomb hit during air attacks on 4th May.)

Passage to Leyte

14th Deployed with Logistics Support Group for aircraft replacement during refuelling

of TF57.

Transferred 14 replacement aircraft to carriers of Task Force 57 and recovered one

flyable unserviceable aircraft.

(Note: Group also included HMS RULER, HMS CRANE, HMS PHEASANT, HM

Sloop WOODCOCK, HM Destroyer NIZAM with two Tankers.


Embarked casualties from Hospital Ship OXFORDSHIRE for passage to Leyte.

(Note: This is to be confirmed.)

15th Transferred six replacement aircraft to carriers of Task Force 57 and recovered one

unserviceable aircraft.

23rd Transferred aircraft to carriers of Task Force 57.

On completion took passage to Manus,
(Note: This was the last replenishment of Task Group 57 ships during ICEBERG TWO)
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Thanks all
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