Can the 9M96E and 9M96E2 missiles be made able to be quad packed?
See link with picture below.
[UPDATED DB v440]
About "Poliment-Redoute" [3K96] system (in database Poliment-K AESA radar + SA-N-21c Growler VLS ) and 9m96 missiles "family"
Here is "Almaz-Antey" annual reports:
http://www.almaz-antey.ru/_files/13/371/ 2010 annual report Page 59
http://www.almaz-antey.ru/_files/13/1033/ 2011 annual report Page 95
http://www.almaz-antey.ru/_files/13/1817/ 2013 annual report Page 96
Version of system
So, according to "Almaz-Antey" annual report 2013
"On the head of the project 22350 frigate delivered prototype
also Amur shipyard (they currently build 2 project20380) procurement of 3K96-3:
From GSKB Raspletin report in 2012:
"Product development 3K96-2 (Poliment-Redoute)
- Manufactured prototypes of devices 3P96-2 products for preliminary bench tests; (3P96-2 = Poliment-K AESA in database)
- Preliminary testing devices 3P96-2 products;
- Prepared and conducted preliminary bench testing products and 3P96-2 3SCH96-2;
- Fabricated experimental units and prototypes of devices and products 3SCH97.2-2 3SCH97.2-2 products in general, conducted the IT;
- design documentation products designed 3I97 for Project 22350;
- Manufactured and delivered the prototype product 3I97;
- Initiated joint testing of the product with the product 3K96-3 9M96 under preliminary testing of the complex."
In the first issue for 2013 of the corporate newspaper "Strela", published by the "Head System Design Bureau Concern PVO" Almaz - Antey "Academician AA Raspletin" (GSKB):
"On the theme 3K96 in 2012 made a significant amount of work which allows to speak with confidence about the completion of the 2013 trial izd. 3K96-3 on ships 20380 and delivery samples of the products of the Navy, as well as to conduct preliminary bench test sample shipments izd. 3K96-2 on the lead ship of Project 22350, its installation and testing."
Results of work Centre MNIIRE "Altair" (information from a deleted from the site "Almaz-Antey" "annual report GSKB Concern PVO" Almaz-Antey "in 2011. Part 2"):
"Among the works included in GWP-2015, in 2011 the works on R & D 3K96 ["Poliment-Redoute"] within which is being developed modular construction of naval air defense system 3rd generation. Created under R & D 3K96 system 3K96-2 and 3K96-3 are designed for installation on ships under construction perspective projects 22350 and 20380."
So there is two variants of system: 3K96-2 "Redoute with Poliment" for 22350 and 3K96-3 "Redoute without Poliment" for 20380
from àrticle "Ship complex air defense 3K96 "Redoute":
"During the briefing, which took place in the framework of the MAKS-2013, CEO of Concern PVO "Almaz-Antey" noted that the test of a new air defense system were interrupted in 2012 because of a fire on SKR "Soobrazitelny" (20380). This year, the ship arrived after repairs to resume trial SAM. He also said that on the head of the project 22350 frigate "Admiral Gorshkov" test "Redoute" will begin no earlier than 2014, upon the readiness of the ship. In this set of missiles 9M96, 9M96D 9M100 and ready for testing."
from "Almaz-Antey" annual report 2010 :
"ongoing testing component
parts ZRAS "Poliment-Redoute" ground testing products 9M96
conducted manufacturing of products 9M96D and 9M100;"
from "Almaz-Antey" annual report 2011 :
"As part of the izd. 3K96 delivered prototype SAM "Redoubt"
on the first serial "corvette" 20380, initiated joint
Flight tests of ship management and izd 9M96,
completed preliminary tests of the main constituents
ZRAS "poliment-Redoute", its elements are placed on the head
"Frigate" project 22350.
A pilot batch izd 9M96D, initiated autonomous
flight tests in a ground polygon, constructed and
Preliminary testing of the main parts
So for 3K96 there is three missiles:
exists in datatabase with wrong range of 30nm
should have 40 km (22nm)
from MAKS-2013 9M96E,9M96E2 and 48n6E characteristics
9M96E2 range 120 km (75mile) speed 1,000 m/s max target altitude 30 km
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-300_%28missile%29 from missiles specifications
from MAKS-2013 9M96E,9M96E2 and 48n6E characteristics
9M96E,9M96E2 and 48n6E in dimensions
and befor we move to next missiles, 9M96E and 9M96E2 have unified ARH head and we know the diameters of missiles 240mm so ARS cant be bigger
than about 200mm there is only two ARS can fit this criteria
all soviet/russian ARS for anti-air missiles made in NII "Agat" so it can be 9B1103M (Lock-on range, (target RCS - 5 m2), km 20) or 9B1103M-200 (Lock-on range, (target RCS - 5 m2), km 25)
citation from ""AGAT" teaches to fly missiles":
"One of the latest achievements of the institute is to create a family seeker 9B-1103M for missiles caliber from 150 to 400 mm, the characteristics of which are not inferior to the most advanced foreign counterparts. These ARS standardized for use in anti-aircraft and in aircraft missiles."
most likely it is 9B1103M-200, 9B1103M created in 1993 for R-27 and 9B1103M-200 created in 2001
http://www.ausairpower.net/APA-Legacy-SAM-Upgrades.html Agat Active Radar Seekers for SAM Upgrades
of course it can be some supersecret ARS about which no one heard nothing but it is really doubtful since 9M96E and 9M96E2 aproved for export
short range missile (10-12 km) fast (some sources claim 900m/s max speed) IR head
little information about this missile,as there was no permission to export and no promotional information
Here is patent for VLS by "KBSM"
as you can see in 1 cell can fit 1 big missile (9M96/9M96E,9M96D/9M96E2) or 4 small missiles (9M100)
And last thing is Vityaz (#2089 - SAM Bn (SA-25 [S-350 Vityaz]) -- Russia [1992-] (Air Force), 2017, 8x TEL in database)
here is photo from MAKS-2013
battle management post 50K6E
Multifunction radars 50N6E (up to 2)
launcher 50P6E (up to 8) with 12 SAM medium range 9M96E2"
so missile for Vityaz is 9M96E2
there is no "Poliment-K AESA" but 3P96-2
there is no SA-N-21c Growler VLS
Redoute VLS can use 9M96/9M96E,9M96D/9M96E2 or 9M100(4 in 1 cell)
Also 9M96/9M96E range is 40km(22nm) not 30nm
Could you please make the necessary changes to the database?
< Message edited by orca -- 7/27/2018 6:04:53 PM >