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Name 5 Books on Naval Warfare - 9/30/2013 1:27:54 AM   
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There's lots of background info one needs to learn about modern warfare to play Command effectively.

So, what are people's recommendation for their top 5 books on Naval Warfare?
I'm sure there are a few more to mention, but here is my list for starters:

1. Fleet Tactics and Coastal Combat 2nd ed. 1999 by Wayne P Hughes Jr. USN (Ret.)
2. Modern Naval Combat 1987 by D.M.O.and C Miller (Salamander book)
3. One Hundred Days New Ed 2012 by Admiral Sandy Woodward
4. Just started reading SeaPower rev. 2013 by Geoffrey Till
5. The Naval Institute Guide to World Naval Weapon Systems 5th Edition 2005 Friedman (I only have the 1989 edition..should I update?)

Also, In a nutshell, but hard to find Harpoon II The Official Strategy guide 1993 Ed Dille and T Basham

Please comment on my selection and name your own top 5.
I would love to know what else I could get..

ciao, & Long Live CMNAO

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RE: Name 5 Books on Naval Warfare - 9/30/2013 1:48:11 AM   
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- Red Storm Rising
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RE: Name 5 Books on Naval Warfare - 9/30/2013 1:52:44 AM   
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1. Fleet Tactics and Coastal Combat by Capt. Wayne P. Hughes
2. Network Center Warfare by Norman Friedman
3. Soviet Naval Tactics Milan Vego
4. Inside the Danger Zone US Military in the Persian Gulf 1987-1988 Harold Lee Wise
5. Combat Fleets- 16th Edition.

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RE: Name 5 Books on Naval Warfare - 9/30/2013 8:55:28 PM   
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I'd certainly agree with Hughes' Fleet Tactics, and add that the 2 Harpoon strategy guides are still helpful - the Harpoon Battlebook (from the original harpoon days) and the Harpoon II: Official Strategy Guide. Got both from ebay a while back,

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RE: Name 5 Books on Naval Warfare - 9/30/2013 9:05:24 PM   
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All of these sound interesting. I'm currently listening to the audiobook of Red Storm Rising and it's brilliant a great for getting in the mood for Command

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RE: Name 5 Books on Naval Warfare - 9/30/2013 9:12:45 PM   
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The new Hughes book is pretty good, I have to admit. Aside from those mentioned here, some of my favorites begin to depart the realm of books...

1) The Naval Diplomat - http://thediplomat.com/the-naval-diplomat/
2) Flashpoints Blog - http://thediplomat.com/flashpoints-blog/
3) Brassey's Sea Power Series of books [mid-90s or so]
4) Jane's Navy International - pricey but my local college has a subscription http://www.janes.com/magazines/ihs-janes-navy-international
5) Principles of Naval Weapon Systems - http://cdn.preterhuman.net/texts/science_and_technology/physics/Principles%20of%20Naval%20Weapons%20Systems.pdf

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RE: Name 5 Books on Naval Warfare - 10/1/2013 3:01:59 AM   
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I feel dumb not adding one more ... the Harpoon wargame rules set. Reading the core rules and data annexes (by Larry Bond and friends) are a seminal experience for the dedicated modern naval wargamer.

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RE: Name 5 Books on Naval Warfare - 10/1/2013 3:10:22 AM   
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RE: Name 5 Books on Naval Warfare - 10/1/2013 3:46:24 AM   
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The Hughes book (Fleet Tactics) and the Brassey Sea Power series (Vol 7, Submarines is especially excellent) are great.

The Boats of Cherbourg is a great way to learn about the birth of the modern, naval missile age.

And if you don't mind going back in time to WW2, Neptune's Inferno is possibly the best military history narrative I've ever read.

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RE: Name 5 Books on Naval Warfare - 10/1/2013 4:44:30 PM   
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The Tactics and Technology of Underwater Warfare SUB vs SUB
Richard Compton-Hall, Orion Books, 1988

Goes in some technical detail concerning construction, engines, weapons...
Tactics with diagrams and photos. Emphasis on Soviet era subs.

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RE: Name 5 Books on Naval Warfare - 10/2/2013 3:52:48 PM   
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Tom Clancy died
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RE: Name 5 Books on Naval Warfare - 10/2/2013 4:04:49 PM   
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i probably have to thank Tom Clancy with his Red Storm Rising to get me interested in the subject.
then i found out about Harpoon.

Command just being released a few days ago will draw me back in where Harpoon left me off years ago.

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RE: Name 5 Books on Naval Warfare - 10/2/2013 4:42:42 PM   
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Started Reading Red Storm again. Talk about getting in the mood. The book sticks to your hand.

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RE: Name 5 Books on Naval Warfare - 11/14/2013 2:21:12 AM   
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so which is better for playing CMANO ?

Combat Fleets of the World 16th edition, or
World Naval Weapon Systems 5th Edition ?

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RE: Name 5 Books on Naval Warfare - 11/14/2013 3:04:23 AM   
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"Great Naval Battles of the 20th Century"
Tom Clancys 'SSN' and Submarine

I am curious about that Fleet Tactics and Coastal Combat by Hughes is it any good and is it applicable to CMANO at all?

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RE: Name 5 Books on Naval Warfare - 11/14/2013 3:18:31 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: pandoraefretum

so which is better for playing CMANO ?

Combat Fleets of the World 16th edition, or
World Naval Weapon Systems 5th Edition ?



I own neither, but it appears that CFOTW covers ships, subs, and planes while WNWS covers weapons, sensors, and other systems.

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RE: Name 5 Books on Naval Warfare - 11/14/2013 7:37:27 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: pandoraefretum

so which is better for playing CMANO ?

Combat Fleets of the World 16th edition, or
World Naval Weapon Systems 5th Edition ?



Own both (not sure which editions)

Combat Fleets of the World contains small (usually a paragraph or 2) listings for every ship in use at that time. Things like name and # in service, length, tonnage, crew, max speed, weapon systems carried, a pic, etc. Command's database pretty much has all this info.

IMO World Naval Weapon Systems is much more useful. It covers weapon systems, electronic warfare items, fire control systems, radar, sonar, etc all in a incredible level of detail that Command's database and Wikipedia simply lack.



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RE: Name 5 Books on Naval Warfare - 11/14/2013 7:45:33 AM   
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For me I cannot recommend enough the book "Operational Warfare at Sea" by Milan Vego.
I found it quite helpful in preparing operational plans for CMANO scenarios :)

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RE: Name 5 Books on Naval Warfare - 11/14/2013 11:04:38 AM   
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I read the first third of Fleet Tactics & Coastal, and was quite bored... then by the middle of the book things picked up and were pretty interesting. In fact, I went from not liking it to liking it a lot! I find the Harpoon II Official Strategy Guide very relevant & good, so am reading that at the moment.

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RE: Name 5 Books on Naval Warfare - any good ebooks? - 11/14/2013 11:21:16 AM   
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Hi,

I'm from Germany and it's quite difficult to get these english/american special interests books here. Many of the books seem to be out of stock and are only sold as used items. Sometimes the prices for the used books are ridiculously high and shipping takes ages from US to Germany.

That's why I would like to buy a good guide as ebook. Unfortunately most of the classic books were published before the introduction of the ebooks. So if anybody can recommend a contemporary book that's also offered as ebook, please let me hear.

Thanks,

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RE: Name 5 Books on Naval Warfare - any good ebooks? - 11/14/2013 11:30:54 AM   
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I noticed this was an ebook

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"Operational Warfare at Sea" by Milan Vego

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RE: Name 5 Books on Naval Warfare - any good ebooks? - 11/14/2013 11:36:49 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: pandoraefretum

I noticed this was an ebook

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"Operational Warfare at Sea" by Milan Vego



Yes both hardcopy and ebook. I bought the ebook on Kobo.

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RE: Name 5 Books on Naval Warfare - any good ebooks? - 11/14/2013 11:54:01 AM   
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Thanks, I will look at it.

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RE: Name 5 Books on Naval Warfare - any good ebooks? - 11/14/2013 2:21:44 PM   
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look at globalsecurity dot org there are many things on pdf

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RE: Name 5 Books on Naval Warfare - 11/14/2013 3:25:44 PM   
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The Influence of Sea Power Upon History, Alfred Mahan.

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RE: Name 5 Books on Naval Warfare - 11/14/2013 3:28:33 PM   
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quote:

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The Influence of Sea Power Upon History, Alfred Mahan.


Now there is a book on operational aspects of naval warfare that will help you play CMANO effectively... ;)

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RE: Name 5 Books on Naval Warfare - 11/14/2013 4:43:50 PM   
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Hey, if you don't why you should have a navy in the first place this is a good way to find out. Fundmentals then the fancy stuff.

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RE: Name 5 Books on Naval Warfare - 11/14/2013 6:43:29 PM   
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Here goes my list:

Physical Books:

Submarine, Tom Clancy
SSN, Tom Clancy
Fighter Wing, Tom Clancy
Special Forces, Tom Clancy
Airborne, Tom Clancy
Marine, Tom Clancy
Armored Cav, Tom Clancy
Carrier, Tom Clancy
Janes Warship Recognition Guide, Janes
Crusade, Rick Atkinson (1991 Persian Gulf war)
Principles of Naval Weapon Systems, Freiden (pretty outdated, but a newer version is available free on the net)
U.S. Submarines Since 1945, Freidman, Naval Institute Press
Fleet Tactics and Coastal Combat, Hughes. (My copy has "Property of U.S. Navy" stamped on the bottom of it)
The Naval Institute Guide to Combat Fleets of the World 1995, Naval Institute Press
Cold War Submarines, Polmar
Naval Institute Guide To The Soviet Navy, Fifth Edition, Polmar
Aircraft Carriers, Polmar
Destroyer Captain, Stavridis
Modern Naval Combat, David Miller & Chris Miller
Command at Sea, Stavridis
The Naval Institute Guide to the Ships and Aircraft of the U.S. Fleet, Seventeenth Edition, Polmar
The War That Never Was, Palmer

and of course

Red Storm Rising, Clancy (I am probably on my 5th or so copy of this)

E-Books

The Chinese Navy: Expanding Capabilities, Evolving Roles
America's First Clash with Iran The Tanker War 1987-88, Zatarain
Project Azorian, Polmar
The Falklands War, Middlebrook
The Great Wall at Sea, Cole (Simply amazing read on the Chinese navy)
21st Century Essential Guide to South and East China Sea Territorial Disputes Involving China and Japan
Shield and Sword: The U.S. Navy in the Persian Gulf War
Argentine Fight For The Falklands, Middlebrook
The Korean War: U.S. Navy Operations in Korean Waters, The Navy Files
Battle Atlas of the Falklands War, Smith
Danger Zone: The Complete Chronology of US Naval Aviation, The Navy Files

This is an intentionally incomplete list...I could have added a dozen more but the biggies are here.

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RE: Name 5 Books on Naval Warfare - 11/14/2013 8:24:11 PM   
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All my books are ww2

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RE: Name 5 Books on Naval Warfare - 11/14/2013 9:48:00 PM   
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The 5 books I love most and have on my bookshelf.

1 - Modern Submarine Warfare (Salamander Books-1987)
2 - Modern Naval Combat (Salamander Books-1986)
3 - The Hunt For Red October (THE FIRST ORIGINAL EDITION!!! - HARDCOVER)(Tom Clancy-1984)
4 - Red Storm Rising (FIRST EDITION - HARDCOVER)(Tom Clancy-1986)
5 - Blind Man's Bluff (HARDCOVER) (Sherry Sontag and Christopher Drew-1998)

I love submarines. It's no surprise that my books are mostly about them.


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