Western Civilization in Grave Danger - AU Tiger (A) vs. Skyros (J)

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Western Civilization in Grave Danger - AU Tiger (A) vs. Skyros (J)

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After a brief (5 year) hiatus from WitP, I am diving back in a big way by starting a PBEM AE game with Skyros. In a way, we are both novices again where I am still wearing crampons whilst scaling the AE learning curve (I haven't even finished the manual yet!) Skyros is playing his first AE game as the Japanese, but has experience with them back when the world was still black and white. It is very possible that this game will resemble a couple of amorous geriatrics - clumsy and difficult to watch.

My purpose in writing this AAR is a lame and desperate attempt to solicit advice from those who no longer have their WitP games saved to floppy disk. Strategy will not be my issue, that part, from reading some AAR's (not going to say which ones at this point because Skyros is free to post in this thread until he sends the first turn) I have determined that that aspect has not changed materially from the old WitP. My problems will likely be in the execution.

Here are the "house rules" and errata:
1. Scenario 1, latest Beta update
2. Dec. 7th start (non-historical)
3. Dec. 7th Surprise
4. On the Ally side, only already formed TF's can move, can change aircraft orders, but not move them, Chinese units are free to do whatever since they are already at war.
5. PP's must be paid to cross borders
6. No 4E Naval Attack below 10k feet. I am magnanimously allowing the Japanese to do so as they wish. [:D]
7. No fighter sweeps in the highest maneuver bands (He had to explain the reasoning for this to me)
8. PDU on
9. Realistic R&D
10. USN torpedoes to remain the marvels of technology that they were historically.
11. Withdrawals on
12. FOW, of course
13. No advanced weather
14. A formal declaration of war prior to the commencement of hostilities; we are gentlemen after all.
15. Andy Mac improved Beta scenario
16. Tokyo Rose is signed to a 5 year contract with Crear Channer Radio - no satellite broadcasts, Youtube, or podcasting allowed.
17. The Allies promise to respect the Japanese codes; gentlemen do not read others' mail.


I think that about covers it for now. I will talk some about strategy and how I will invade the HI in '42 after I receive the first turn.
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Good luck in your game. I'm not that great of a player still a newb.

I'll give a few hints when Skyros, has left this AAR.
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Good luck in your game. I'm not that great of a player still a newb.

I'll give a few hints when Skyros, has left this AAR.

I would be much obliged!
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PM sent to allow me to forward you some documents that may help you out as you start your game. One that will help a novice is the different classes of Allied xAKs (some that can convert to xAPs), TKs, and where you may use them to move all those troops, fuel, and supplies.

Allied player thing - You can place in "Strat Mode" troops and move them from California to Eastern USA. Once there, you can select them to move to Cape Town. They will take over 30 days for this to happen and disappear for that number of days (allows movement here without having to use transport ships). You can do this with troops that are "Restricted" and need Political Points (PP) to allow them to leave Cape Town. In AE, there is a common fear of India being invaded early in the war so American troops are sent there to help out.
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Good luck "newbie veteran", or is it "veteran newbie"? [:)]

Re: the 4E Nav Attack rule - you might want to specify for Army bombers. USN gets some B-24s and Privateers later on that were intended for naval attack. You could offer to keep them at 5K feet or above, so they are not on Low Naval attack.

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Good morning gentleman and Graf Z if she stops in. Just thought I would pay my respects before going to general quarters and kicking off this campaign. I may try to run one of these myself, just not as frequently since I will be focusing on getting turns done, especially in the first months of the war. I have not played Japan since WITP days so this is kind of a new experience for me, although I have two campaigns as the allies under my belt. Hopefully we will have a rock-em sock-em first year to the war. I wish AU Tiger good luck especially against Georgia this year and maybe we will see you in the SEC Championship. Go Cocks!
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Is he gone? Is the coast clear yet?

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Good luck!
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I wish AU Tiger good luck especially against Georgia this year and maybe we will see you in the SEC Championship. Go Cocks!


Alas, I don't believe we will attain the SECCG this year, we are in the toughest division in the NCAA, and are striving to reattain our traditional position of preeminence after the post-2010 meltdown that happened on the Plains. I am impressed (so far) with the new staff and see a bright future, but we have a long way to go yet. I will be very happy to place third in the West this year, but even that may be a stretch IMO. I do believe the Cocks can make it to the CG if they can get past UF, and I wish them luck!
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I´ll try and follow along and offer what limited advice I can! [:)]

Good luck!
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My suggestion for your first year? USN Sub Mines!!!! they work much better in ports than torpedoes do at all in the first year, also use the subs in wolfpacks (4-6) in one small area until thier scouting experience increases... "That is All"

*** Remember this comes from an inexperienced player too *** [:D][:D][:D]
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ORIGINAL: moore4807

My suggestion for your first year? USN Sub Mines!!!! they work much better in ports than torpedoes do at all in the first year, also use the subs in wolfpacks (4-6) in one small area until thier scouting experience increases... "That is All"

*** Remember this comes from an inexperienced player too *** [:D][:D][:D]

There isn't really any such thing as "scouting experience", however crew experience does go up over time...

What really makes a difference in sub recon is radar.
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ORIGINAL: moore4807

My suggestion for your first year? USN Sub Mines!!!! they work much better in ports than torpedoes do at all in the first year, also use the subs in wolfpacks (4-6) in one small area until thier scouting experience increases... "That is All"

*** Remember this comes from an inexperienced player too *** [:D][:D][:D]

Wolf packs are really not the way to go with subs.
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ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58

ORIGINAL: moore4807

My suggestion for your first year? USN Sub Mines!!!! they work much better in ports than torpedoes do at all in the first year, also use the subs in wolfpacks (4-6) in one small area until thier scouting experience increases... "That is All"

*** Remember this comes from an inexperienced player too *** [:D][:D][:D]

Wolf packs are really not the way to go with subs.


I concur. I am refraining from responding to specifics until Mr. Skyros vacates the premises.
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And before he does, let me second the Go Cocks battle cry. The Horns are my #1 team, but the Gamecocks are a very close second due to family ties in SC.

PS - Once Skyros leaves, I will be interested to hear your thoughts on strategy derived from the unnamed AARs.
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And before he does, let me second the Go Cocks battle cry. The Horns are my #1 team, but the Gamecocks are a very close second due to family ties in SC.

PS - Once Skyros leaves, I will be interested to hear your thoughts on strategy derived from the unnamed AARs.


I intend to share them. In fact, I have just finished a PM with one of the authors I am following.
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I am working on the turn and will vacate this AAR now so you can all get started. I can tell there are some excited folk who can't wait to start posting.

Happy gaming and good luck to you all.

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AHH thought he'd never leave. LOL

Tips.

Task Forces
Try and match up ships by their speed. SAGS, CVs TF If I remember correctly 15 is the magic number. Try and match SAGs up with ships in the same class or by gun range.

Pilot training
Fighters
Escort and sweep (100ft) with 0 range. Escort try training with a small percentage on flying actual escort mission (80 train and 20 CAP) this will build up Air and Exp. sweep will increase Def and strafing skills.

Bombers
Pick what you want and train in it at 0 range. Just incase you don't know Ground bombing consists of Port, Air Field, and Ground Attack. Low Nav or Ground is 1k ft. 100ft will go for strafing.

Maybe more later, depending on what the better players post. Have to take the boss to dinner.
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AHH thought he'd never leave. LOL

Tips.

Task Forces
Try and match up ships by their speed. SAGS, CVs TF If I remember correctly 15 is the magic number. Try and match SAGs up with ships in the same class or by gun range.

Pilot training
Fighters
Escort and sweep (100ft) with 0 range. Escort try training with a small percentage on flying actual escort mission (80 train and 20 CAP) this will build up Air and Exp. sweep will increase Def and strafing skills.

Bombers
Pick what you want and train in it at 0 range. Just incase you don't know Ground bombing consists of Port, Air Field, and Ground Attack. Low Nav or Ground is 1k ft. 100ft will go for strafing.

Maybe more later, depending on what the better players post. Have to take the boss to dinner.

I appreciate that. I just typed up a very long post, and lost it all on a time out. [:@]

I will re-type in a little bit, I need to start dinner.
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While I wait for my wife to get ready. What questions do you have on the game?
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