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OT: Dream Vacations in Military History - 6/9/2013 7:36:33 PM   
Gary Childress


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Saw a topic titled "My Dream Vacation" and it made me think of this cruise I saw advertised where you spend a whole month (or maybe it was 3 weeks) sailing the South and Central Pacific, stopping off at some of the locations of fighting during WW2. I think it included Guadalcanal, Truk, and a number of other Islands. The whole cruise was apparently geared around the WW2 in the Pacific theme.

Other than spending a week at Bora Bora, I think such a trip would constitute my ultimate dream vacation. My second runner up for a dream vacation is actually a trip I took a few years back through the Florida pan handle. I visited the naval air museum at Pensacola and the Battleship Alabama in Mobile and a small air force museum (I forget where). Saw a LOT Of old planes during that vacation. I highly recommend the naval air museum at Pensacola. Awesome place!

If you had your pick of vacations, what would be your dream trip?


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RE: OT: Dream Vacations in Military History - 6/9/2013 7:52:36 PM   
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For anyone interested, here is the old thread I created with pics from my Pensacola, Mobile trip. Ahhh, memories...

http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=1157068&mpage=1&key=

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RE: OT: Dream Vacations in Military History - 6/9/2013 10:43:17 PM   
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We have a growing industry in Battlefield tours.

Number 1 is Gallipoli, followed by the Western Front of WW1.

I'd like to see a Tobruk/Alamein tour joined to a Sinai/Beersheba/Palestine tour.

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RE: OT: Dream Vacations in Military History - 6/10/2013 3:00:08 AM   
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I'd like a battlefield tour of Armaggedon, I mean, how many battle sites can you visit before they happen?

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RE: OT: Dream Vacations in Military History - 6/10/2013 4:55:19 AM   
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I'd like to see a Tobruk/Alamein tour joined to a Sinai/Beersheba/Palestine tour.

yep..casablanca, kasserine, tobruk, el Alamen and the adjacent depression(i would like to see why it is restrictive to movement), sicily, salerno, monte cassino***.

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RE: OT: Dream Vacations in Military History - 6/10/2013 4:59:42 AM   
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I'd like to see a Tobruk/Alamein tour joined to a Sinai/Beersheba/Palestine tour.

yep..casablanca, kasserine, tobruk, el Alamen and the adjacent depression(i would like to see why it is restrictive to movement), sicily, salerno, monte cassino***.


I think in the Qattara Depression, a tanker truck cannot carry enough water to even keep its own radiator functioning. You might as well march your army into the Mediterranean.

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RE: OT: Dream Vacations in Military History - 6/10/2013 7:55:02 AM   
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Qattara Depression is traversable, it would have been possible to move a light infantry force through but would rely on Jeeps or similar sized trucks.

Bagnold of Long Range Desert Group fame was one of the first to drive across.

There are a few East-West tracks plus some "passes" coming down from the main desert.

A bigger problem is that it couldnt be done very quickly, could be easily blocked and would be totally open to aerial interdiction.

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RE: OT: Dream Vacations in Military History - 6/10/2013 7:58:42 AM   
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I want to hike from Port Moresby to Buna along the Kokoda Trail. My vacations have to involve walking as I am an old grunt...

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RE: OT: Dream Vacations in Military History - 6/10/2013 1:21:38 PM   
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I want to hike from Port Moresby to Buna along the Kokoda Trail. My vacations have to involve walking as I am an old grunt...

ElCid did that.

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RE: OT: Dream Vacations in Military History - 6/10/2013 1:27:01 PM   
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The top one for me would be a trip to Pearl Harbour.
For family reasons I'd like to see the old RAF Ranchi as well.

Been to Normandy, various WW1 and WW2 battlefields in Europe.

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RE: OT: Dream Vacations in Military History - 6/10/2013 2:13:45 PM   
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don't try you will need a chopper to fly you out.

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RE: OT: Dream Vacations in Military History - 6/10/2013 6:35:17 PM   
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I'd love to get on the Missouri but that long plane ride bums me out. Someday maybe. I wish you could catch a tramp steamer like in the old days.

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RE: OT: Dream Vacations in Military History - 6/12/2013 11:03:25 PM   
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Other than spending a week at Bora Bora, I think such a trip would constitute my ultimate dream vacation. My second runner up for a dream vacation is actually a trip I took a few years back through the Florida pan handle. I visited the naval air museum at Pensacola and the Battleship Alabama in Mobile and a small air force museum (I forget where). Saw a LOT Of old planes during that vacation. I highly recommend the naval air museum at Pensacola. Awesome place!

If you had your pick of vacations, what would be your dream trip?



I've always wanted to go the Museum of the Air Force in Dayton OH.

I got to go out to the Pima Air & Space Museum in Tucson AZ and really enjoyed that. I'll have to make time to go back there again some day.

Pearl Harbor with the Missouri, or pretty much any other place that has a battleship to tour.

I enjoyed the Texas in Houston, which is nice because they let you into the engine rooms. They even periodically offer a tour where you go into the bowels with flashlights. I haven't managed to be in town when that one was offered yet.

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RE: OT: Dream Vacations in Military History - 6/13/2013 6:37:02 AM   
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I am going to visit the USS Wisconsin next week.....90 minute drive to Norfolk Va. I will take some pictures and share them to all, weather permittting....Had to go to Williamsburg Va for business today and saw the CVN Enterprise being ripped apart while driving over HRBT (Hampton Roads Bridge Tunnel)....

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RE: OT: Dream Vacations in Military History - 6/13/2013 1:26:33 PM   
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I've always wanted to go the Museum of the Air Force in Dayton OH.


A most excellent place. I try to get there every other year. However the restaurant at the Naval Air Museum in Pensecola has the USAF one beat easily.

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RE: OT: Dream Vacations in Military History - 6/13/2013 1:51:05 PM   
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Next week, we're staying for a week at Hershey, PA.  The wife wants to see all things chocolate.  I get to hang out at Gettysburg. 

One day wasn't enough last time.

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RE: OT: Dream Vacations in Military History - 6/13/2013 2:30:25 PM   
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I'd like to see a Tobruk/Alamein tour joined to a Sinai/Beersheba/Palestine tour.

yep..casablanca, kasserine, tobruk, el Alamen and the adjacent depression(i would like to see why it is restrictive to movement), sicily, salerno, monte cassino***.


You know seeing and experiencing the local terrain really gives you a better feel for what armies were up against. When reenacting the American Civil War battle at Murfreesboro, Tennessee we had several days rain before the event. It was there while trying to march in an orderly column of four that I learned first hand why mud played such a factor in movement of units in my wargames. It took us forever to get down that road reducing the march to a single file at times. We were nearly late for the war!!!

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RE: OT: Dream Vacations in Military History - 6/13/2013 2:31:37 PM   
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Next week, we're staying for a week at Hershey, PA.  The wife wants to see all things chocolate.  I get to hang out at Gettysburg. 

One day wasn't enough last time.

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Take the helicopter tour of the battlefield if you can. Well worth it...

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RE: OT: Dream Vacations in Military History - 6/13/2013 2:32:22 PM   
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Does anybody know if the Russians still offer a tour of WWII sites in their homeland?

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RE: OT: Dream Vacations in Military History - 6/14/2013 2:29:27 AM   
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MineSweeper,

How far are you from Ahoskie? That's where my SO is from. That's about how far we had to drive to Norfolk when we went to go see BB64 and the base. Just curious....

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RE: OT: Dream Vacations in Military History - 6/14/2013 2:46:24 AM   
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MineSweeper,

In case you get the chance, take pics for us of the CVN65 being scrapped. MAYBE WE WILL REMEMBER THIS TIME!!!!






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RE: OT: Dream Vacations in Military History - 6/14/2013 2:53:41 AM   
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As far as the places I would like to visit the most:

Omaha:





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RE: OT: Dream Vacations in Military History - 6/14/2013 2:54:10 AM   
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RE: OT: Dream Vacations in Military History - 6/14/2013 2:55:53 AM   
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RE: OT: Dream Vacations in Military History - 6/14/2013 2:56:44 AM   
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RE: OT: Dream Vacations in Military History - 6/14/2013 3:32:40 AM   
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Well if you get to go to Rick's Cafe, I get to go to Luftstalag 13.





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RE: OT: Dream Vacations in Military History - 6/14/2013 4:06:47 AM   
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MineSweeper,

How far are you from Ahoskie? That's where my SO is from. That's about how far we had to drive to Norfolk when we went to go see BB64 and the base. Just curious....


Tom, it is about a 2 hour drive.


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RE: OT: Dream Vacations in Military History - 6/14/2013 4:10:04 AM   
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MineSweeper,

In case you get the chance, take pics for us of the CVN65 being scrapped. MAYBE WE WILL REMEMBER THIS


I'll see want I can do.....getting on the base will be a no no....but might be able to get some pics at another vantage point.


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RE: OT: Dream Vacations in Military History - 6/14/2013 4:17:38 AM   
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Would like to do some diving in the Solomons some time, although the good wrecks there are below recreational levels (I think just a few AKs are divable). I did a five-day live-aboard dive trip to Truk in 1998 (hence the photo under my name). I can highly recommend that to divers on this forum.

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RE: OT: Dream Vacations in Military History - 6/14/2013 7:33:39 AM   
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Well if you get to go to Rick's Cafe, I get to go to Luftstalag 13.






Can't help with that one, but I did get to tour Luftstalag III while I was in Poland (training exercise near Zagan). That is the camp that the movie The Great Escape was based on. (Great movie, based on a true escape attempt). There is a museum there now, and a recreation of a section of tunnel, also the foundations of several buildings are still there (although much of it is overgrown or built upon). There is even a memorial path showing the actual length of the tunnel, with the names of those who were killed in the attempt, and the 3 successful escapees. And a few storyboards with pictures from the film. Also some displays on the march of the surviving POWs when the Germans evacuated in front of the advancing Russians. Worth seeing, if you are in western Poland.

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