TMO
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A number of questions regarding supply: 1) In the manual it states that if a base is forced to retreat it automatically loses half of its stocks and even more if the remainder can't be transported given the current availability of transport. What is the situation regarding a voluntary move assuming there is enough transport? 2) If an air-supplied (or any other) SEP is not scheduled to receive supplies on a particular day are the ones previously received still stockpiled and thus available for collection? 3) How do you set initial stock levels for bases? According to Frank Steer, 'Arnhem the fight to sustain, p.52, 1st Airborne Div took in 48 hours' supplies, how do I set this? From Frank Steer (1), David Bennett, Magnificent Disaster: The failure of MG (2) and Martin Middlebrook, Arnhem 1944 (3) here's what appears to be the historical supply schedule for 1st Airborne: D+1, 21t landed by three Hamilcars at DZ'X', 14t collected (only two could be unloaded) (1, 3); 85.7t air-dropped by 33 Stirlings (1,3) (12t collected, LZ'L') (1,2). 2 states latter collected from dedicated DZ north of Oosterbeek (could be SDP'V' but probably LZ'L' - see later post). D+2, 389t (1), 390t (2) dropped at SDP'V', 21t (1), 31t (2) recovered. 3 p269 states 101 Stirlings and 63 Dakotas. D+3, 386t (2) dropped, 135t collected (reference refers to change of DZ but does not specify where; (1) info very vague). 100 Stirlings and 64 Dakotas 3 p391 which also states: quote:
The location of the new dropping point requested by 1st Airborne had reached England;it was a road junction 200 yds west of the Hartenstein. But the planners only sent 131 aircraft to that place; the remainder, 33 Stilings, were sent to LZ'Z'. Given a Stirling could carry 2.64t of supplies and a Dakota 1.97t this would equate to 303t dropped at the new DZ and 87t at LZ'Z'. D+4, 64 Stirling and 53 Dakota drop supplies on Hartenstein itself after message from Oosterbeek. Equates to 273t dropped (3). 2 states 11t collected. D+5, No resupply (1,2). D+6, 73 Stirlings and 50 Dakotas (245t) 3. 291.7t dropped, 7t collected (1). Hartenstein DZ? D+7, No resupply (1,2) D+8, 2.8t dropped, zero collected (1). Source 1 estimates that an additional 100t fell in unit lines and was collected but admits to having no hard figures to support this estimation. Regards Tim
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