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RE: Elsenborn Ridge AAR by Daz - 6/20/2013 3:22:59 AM   
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Thanks guys, really appreciate the support

My Dad's coming to stay from France this weekend so things are going to be a bit disrupted here. Not sure I will get a chance to do any more slides till next week, but I'm hopefully going to have time to do one for the opening stage of the Northern sector to help out a new guy to the game.
Its not meant to be till much later in the AAR, but I think I'll bring this one forward, as it is a very tricky part of the battle.
BTW my game I was playing to help me with the AAR planning that I posted about here
http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=3345474
and a snippet here
http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=3313015
ended in the AI surrendering with 11 hours still to run on the clock!
So I think we are on the right track





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RE: Elsenborn Ridge AAR by Daz - 6/20/2013 11:39:41 PM   
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Slide 37
I'm no where near ready for this slide yet, so unfortunately there is no slide yet to explain the mission, or the plan.
This is purely a copy this layout, and it will get you into the forest with minimal casualties slide.
To ensure your lines of communications are kept clear of the enemy use your artillery and werfer units to line the road, nicely spaced out.
Move them into position along it as soon as it is safe for them to do so.
Artillery is no good in attack but it is great for holding ground, once deployed into cover.

Just a quick note on micro management, and interference levels of play.
This slide is very high micro management. You can get similar results by using the 2 Bn's just detach the support units, give 1 Bn HQ 989 Gren Regt an order to move in Arrow head formation so that it passes just outside LOS of the entrenched enemy at the road junction to its South, by passing it to the North, and the other Bn a defend order roughly along the line of the Hockerlinie where they are in my slide.
You can do this whole scenario with just using Bn level, and Regimental level attacks, but you won't get as good results.
Its like most things in life, you get out what you put in.
My attacks in the south are at a higher level of command, Bn or Regimental, because they are not attacking across open ground, they are already in the forest, but the ones in the North start very close to the enemy position, with an expanse of no mans land to cross, and you only have 1 hour of darkness left, so there is no time for re-Orgs they need to get moving right away.
There organization is maxed out at the start of the scenario anyway so just get them moving!
Daylight is coming, and its an infantry mans worst nightmare in open terrain, on the offensive.

Edit: Fixed typo that may have caused confusion for 1, 2, and 3 Coy 989 Gren Regt, follow on moves once entering forest






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RE: Elsenborn Ridge AAR by Daz - 6/22/2013 12:30:08 AM   
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This is awesome. Great work.

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RE: Elsenborn Ridge AAR by Daz - 6/22/2013 8:59:52 AM   
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Just a quick question. Is ToT really simulated in BftB? I didnt knew this.

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RE: Elsenborn Ridge AAR by Daz - 6/22/2013 4:07:14 PM   
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ORIGINAL: DerGrenadier

Just a quick question. Is ToT really simulated in BftB? I didnt knew this.


I doubt its simulated, or the VT fuze come to that.

I have written about it to drive home the fact that the Allied, and the Axis artillery come to that is devastating to your infantry.

I don't expect there is any difference between the two in game, but for anyone that was upset because they think the arty in game is too powerful then hopefully this will at least give them a reason why.

Its just for a bit of flavour, and some history really.

Sorry if it has confused anyone.

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RE: Elsenborn Ridge AAR by Daz - 7/3/2013 6:29:27 AM   
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Slide 38
I know I am repeating myself a bit, as some of this was covered in the last slide, but remember that slide was out of place, and not meant to be in the AAR till much later.
I'm still on the planning stage, Enemy forces.
Enemy Protection and mobility to follow soon, then we move onto Friendly forces








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RE: Elsenborn Ridge AAR by Daz - 7/3/2013 8:50:08 AM   
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Amazing, daz, just amazing. And I'd say that "amazing" doesn't make justice to the effort made here. The countermeasures you describe to ameliorate US artillery deserve a separate posting on The War Room.

I'm really looking forward to see your operational plan outlined. This is perhaps one of the most complex scenarios in BftB.

I'd like to suggest you to post saved games of interesting moments in the game (initial orders, decisions, breakthrough if it happens, etc.). That would allow peeps to try and see things by themselves, and doesn't require much more effort on your behalf.

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RE: Elsenborn Ridge AAR by Daz - 7/3/2013 8:52:42 PM   
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Amazing, daz, just amazing. And I'd say that "amazing" doesn't make justice to the effort made here. The countermeasures you describe to ameliorate US artillery deserve a separate posting on The War Room.

I'm really looking forward to see your operational plan outlined. This is perhaps one of the most complex scenarios in BftB.

I'd like to suggest you to post saved games of interesting moments in the game (initial orders, decisions, breakthrough if it happens, etc.). That would allow peeps to try and see things by themselves, and doesn't require much more effort on your behalf.

Thanks BG, your making my blush
Yeah, attaching saves would be a great idea, if your interested.
My first one will be after all initial orders are set just before the clock starts to tick, so you can let it run yourself to see how it goes

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RE: Elsenborn Ridge AAR by Daz - 7/5/2013 11:08:37 PM   
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RE: Elsenborn Ridge AAR by Daz - 7/12/2013 8:28:12 AM   
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RE: Elsenborn Ridge AAR by Daz - 7/12/2013 4:45:12 PM   
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Dazkaz...I think you should be in the Panther team to help with immersion through the UI...superb

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RE: Elsenborn Ridge AAR by Daz - 7/28/2013 11:06:12 AM   
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Daz, I cant wait for continuing. I have looked forward to each new slide. So I hope you didnt stop your perfect reported battle.... I do not want to pressure you, I want to encourage you

And one note on the wodin´s note: You do not think about it what wodin wrote, Daz?

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RE: Elsenborn Ridge AAR by Daz - 7/28/2013 2:41:00 PM   
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Don't worry guys I've not abandoned my AAR, far from it.

We have been experiencing a very rare (for the UK) heat wave these last 4 weeks or so, and its been about 30deg in my office where my main computer is. The one that is powerful enough to run Photoshop.

So I have been spending as little time as possible in it, preferring to be outdoors, or in our cool conservatory in the evenings watching movies with the wife, cooking on the BBQ, and watching the evening/night sky with a glass of wine in hand.

As soon as the weather gets bad again, I'll be back in my office working on the next slide for you :)

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RE: Elsenborn Ridge AAR by Daz - 7/30/2013 8:56:17 AM   
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daz you ought to come to NW Louisiana/E Texas this time of year, I'll show you hot (95-98F w/60% humidity).........it takes mowing the yard to whole new level of enjoyment !

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RE: Elsenborn Ridge AAR by Daz - 8/2/2013 2:03:08 AM   
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Well its hot for the UK! No air conditioning here, we are usually more concerned with staying warm than cool
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RE: Elsenborn Ridge AAR by Daz - 8/5/2013 1:41:13 PM   
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RE: Elsenborn Ridge AAR by Daz - 9/29/2013 11:46:11 PM   
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Slide 45

Shown is the reinforcement schedule for the Axis forces Historical reinforcements.

The units are lined up in the order that they will enter the map when their appointed time arrives, and the movement arrows indicate the approximate location they will arrive in.

The Bn and Regimental boundary boxes are colour coded to correlate to the coloured segments around the 24 hour clocks.
This is the time window that the formation will arrive on the map.

The 24 hour clock has day/night cycle segments, as well as Dawn, Dusk, Sunrise, and Sunset marked on it for this scenario.

Hope you find it useful.

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RE: Elsenborn Ridge AAR by Daz - 9/30/2013 8:00:43 AM   
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Wow. Did you just invent all that, Daz - the clocks, I mean? Incredible.

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RE: Elsenborn Ridge AAR by Daz - 9/30/2013 9:00:26 AM   
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ORIGINAL: phoenix

Wow. Did you just invent all that, Daz - the clocks, I mean? Incredible.


Thanks mate.
Yes its all custom built for the game.
If you listen carefully, you can hear it ticking

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RE: Elsenborn Ridge AAR by Daz - 10/10/2013 11:10:11 PM   
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This slide is Players orders acting as Sixth Panzer Army Commander, to 1 SS Pz Corps.
It also shows 1 SS Pz Corps projected divisional positions for the morning of day 3.
The Corps to Divisional orders, will be covered in more detail in following slides.




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RE: Elsenborn Ridge AAR by Daz - 10/11/2013 9:39:59 AM   
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Just a quick note on how I will be issuing new orders during the game.

In the Game Manual there is a small table, that probably no one ever takes any notice of.
It is the standard reassessment times that the formation HQ's will issue new orders to their subordinates, based on the current tactical situation.

Although I won't be allowing the AI to take control of formations the size of Corps or Divisions, and probably only rarely Regiment, I will be using this table as a guide as to when I will be allowed to change the orders for that size formation.

For example if I have stated in the Corps orders for 12VG Division to take Losheimergraben, by day 3, I would not be able to then change it to say Bucholz Station, until the 24 hour reassessment time period from issuing the orders had passed.
However if after 24 hours had passed, it looked like they where not going to take Losheimergraben, as opposition was too strong.
I would then be able to give them a new order to take Bucholz Station instead, even though in the initial orders I had stated that they had 3 days to take it.




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RE: Elsenborn Ridge AAR by Daz - 10/11/2013 4:21:38 PM   
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277 VG Division orders from 1 SS Panzer Korps D1 06:00





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RE: Elsenborn Ridge AAR by Daz - 10/12/2013 1:31:40 PM   
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1SS Pz Korps orders to 12VG
Sorry about any inconsistencies in the orders format.
I'm still trying to feel my way through it at the moment.
I have a book that has German orders during the defence of Moscow, that I am trying to follow, but I can't really make out what the standard format is as its a bit random.





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RE: Elsenborn Ridge AAR by Daz - 11/19/2013 8:56:39 PM   
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Have you given up on this mate?

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RE: Elsenborn Ridge AAR by Daz - 12/14/2013 7:38:55 PM   
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Have you given up on this mate?

Not yet mate. Just slowed down a lot
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RE: Elsenborn Ridge AAR by Daz - 12/16/2013 1:25:37 PM   
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RE: Elsenborn Ridge AAR by Daz - 12/16/2013 7:36:12 PM   
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Beautiful stuff, Daz. Can't wait to see how they do with these orders..

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RE: Elsenborn Ridge AAR by Daz - 12/17/2013 10:43:50 AM   
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Thanks Peter :)
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