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Alternative Scenarios - 5/10/2013 7:54:20 PM   
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IF, IF, IF, I get a chance to add alternate time period scenarios besides the 1989 scenarios we are currently working on, which time period would you like to see units engaged in. We are looking at the decade of the 1980's.

The most requested year will get as many extra added scenarios as we can squeeze in.

That may well be none. It will depend on playtesting and my skills as a scenario designer as well as any help I get from those interested in putting scenarios in game for release.

That of course depends on if there are scenario designers out there that would like to have their work included in the game.

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RE: Alternative Scenarios - 5/10/2013 8:21:13 PM   
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To clarify, 1980 to 1989.

I like 85 followed by 80/81.

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RE: Alternative Scenarios - 5/10/2013 8:24:22 PM   
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How about a 1989 TOE and map for a post large scale nuke exchange?

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RE: Alternative Scenarios - 5/10/2013 8:29:58 PM   
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This is a tactical game. The units are in company or platoon level. A large scale nuclear exchange on this map would be extremely easy. There would be no units left on the map at this level in a nuclear exchange.

There could be scenarios that involve moving through an area of nuclear/chemical radiation/contamination. There could even be a scenario where one side delivered either a nuclear or chemical weapon. There would be no point in doing a scenario at this level where there is even a small exchange of those types of weapons.

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RE: Alternative Scenarios - 5/10/2013 8:36:04 PM   
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What I mean by alternate scenarios is different time periods using different equipment that is not present in our 1989 time frame for the main Red Storm game.

If someone would like to see M60A3's vs T-72A. The M1 vs the T-72. Leo 1's vs T-64's. Chieftains vs T-72B's. Those are the alternative matchups we are looking to recreate if someone is interested in them.

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RE: Alternative Scenarios - 5/10/2013 8:44:35 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Mad Russian

IF, IF, IF, I get a chance to add alternate time period scenarios besides the 1989 scenarios we are currently working on, which time period would you like to see units engaged in. We are looking at the decade of the 1980's.

The most requested year will get as many extra added scenarios as we can squeeze in.

That may well be none. It will depend on playtesting and my skills as a scenario designer as well as any help I get from those interested in putting scenarios in game for release.

That of course depends on if there are scenario designers out there that would like to have their work included in the game.

Good Hunting.

MR


What about that the cold war is not ended in 1991 and there is still a Soviet Union and Warsaw Pact. And that the war is in 2000 or 2010.

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RE: Alternative Scenarios - 5/10/2013 8:49:51 PM   
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To further clarify this thread, at this time we are working on the 1980-1989 time period.

Other decades will be added at a later date, through expansions or with patches etc.

The 1990's and the 2000's could all be decades where the fighting is shown to be happening.

At this moment, for this release, we would like to stay in the decade of the 1980's.

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RE: Alternative Scenarios - 5/10/2013 10:57:50 PM   
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How about 1983? Took this from the web site. Just my two cents worth Which would be M60A3 vs T-72s

"The incident occurred at a time of severely strained relations between the United States and the Soviet Union. Only three weeks earlier, the Soviet military had shot down a South Korean passenger jet, Korean Air Lines Flight 007, that had strayed into Soviet airspace, killing all 269 people on board.[1] Many Americans were killed, including U.S. Congressman Larry McDonald.[2]

Bruce Blair, an expert on Cold War nuclear strategies and current president of the World Security Institute in Washington, D.C., says the American–Soviet relationship at that time "had deteriorated to the point where the Soviet Union as a system — not just the Kremlin, not just Soviet leader Yuri Andropov, not just the KGB — but as a system, was geared to expect an attack and to retaliate very quickly to it. It was on hair-trigger alert. It was very nervous and prone to mistakes and accidents. The false alarm that happened on Petrov's watch could not have come at a more dangerous, intense phase in U.S.–Soviet relations."[3] In an interview aired on American television, Blair said, "The Russians [Soviets] saw a U.S. government preparing for a first strike, headed by a President [Ronald Reagan] capable of ordering a first strike." Regarding the incident involving Petrov, he said, "I think that this is the closest we've come to accidental nuclear war."[4]



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RE: Alternative Scenarios - 5/12/2013 3:51:08 AM   
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Would you have time to create some scenarios to be included in the game? We should have about 2 months left. Roughly.

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RE: Alternative Scenarios - 5/12/2013 3:55:22 AM   
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How many?

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RE: Alternative Scenarios - 5/12/2013 4:01:03 AM   
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Greater than zero and less than a thousand.

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RE: Alternative Scenarios - 5/12/2013 4:09:25 AM   
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Looking at my Pre 1986 Armored/Mechanized Divisions with M60A3s and M113s I could do at least maybe four. What do you think?

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RE: Alternative Scenarios - 5/12/2013 4:10:52 AM   
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Do you do Skype?

It would help if you download a free program called Team Viewer 8 as well.

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RE: Alternative Scenarios - 5/12/2013 4:14:31 AM   
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yes, spartans300

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RE: Alternative Scenarios - 5/12/2013 4:17:05 AM   
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Sent Skype request to you.

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RE: Alternative Scenarios - 5/12/2013 4:18:12 AM   
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Got it team viewer

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RE: Alternative Scenarios - 5/12/2013 4:19:08 AM   
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its my name on Skype

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RE: Alternative Scenarios - 5/12/2013 4:24:41 AM   
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Got it.

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RE: Alternative Scenarios - 5/14/2013 1:10:55 AM   
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I have a soft spot for seeing some scenarios between '80-'85, since I was there at the time I might be just a little bias. Many interesting events took place during that period, a lot of sabre rattling, several (Pershing II, Able Archer) that could've triggered a full blown shooting war.

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RE: Alternative Scenarios - 5/14/2013 8:06:48 PM   
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I see this interesting to cover other years... but you can create to late battles, i refer cover the 3-4 week of war when enter 2nd and 3rd line units on battlefield with T-54/55/62, M48, Centurion and less modern APCs and more trucks for infantry...

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RE: Alternative Scenarios - 5/15/2013 3:12:35 AM   
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Yes, Soviet Category IV (Wartime Mobilisation Only) units and barrel scrapings from various NATO members ... assuming the war wasn't over in a few weeks like the Russians assumed ... and that it didn't go nuclear, as was probably inevitable in the real world outside of US Think Tanks

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RE: Alternative Scenarios - 5/15/2013 11:59:28 AM   
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I know the topic of this forum is scenerios from the timeperiod of the 1980's but wondered about other possibilities. What about the mid to late 1970's before the U.S. military buildup of the 80's. If I remember correctly, the American army was somewhat considered disorganized and low moral after the Vietnam war. Another idea would be any time from 2003 to present with American military stretched with Iraq and Afganistan and military force reduction over the last few years. I assume that there will be some players out there that may consider these with the scenerio builder that will be part of the game but thought I would add my two cents worth.

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RE: Alternative Scenarios - 5/15/2013 1:04:21 PM   
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Jday,
We plan on expanding into other decades as time goes. Right now the focus is on the 80s.

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RE: Alternative Scenarios - 5/19/2013 12:01:24 PM   
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Me I’d go with Spring of ‘84. Why? We had just had the Beirut Bombing (I was there), Invasion of Grenada, KAL 007 in the previous fall, the Soviets we sure we were going to attack in November ’83 (Able Archer) and initiated Operation RYAN to counter/monitor it. Assuming the anxiety of a Western attack continued through the winter and seeing more and newer American/Western arms beginning to come into Europe the Soviets see their conventional edge slipping. Frightened by how close they came to nuclear war and with one last window of opportunity to launch a successful conventional attack the plans to initiate war in Europe with a massive nuclear strike are shelved. On May Day, 1984 the largest ever Warsaw Pact maneuvers turn hot…

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