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All American Over Nijmegen - Blown bridge - 5/7/2013 10:37:27 PM   
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Grave Heavy bridge has been blown.
No other crossing?
No bridge building units?

Have missed something?

Great if can take the bridge intact - But once blown! it looks like the game is up?







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RE: All American Over Nijmegen - Blown bridge - 5/7/2013 10:42:25 PM   
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Is this the answer?
The Mook Rail bridge.





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RE: All American Over Nijmegen - Blown bridge - 5/7/2013 11:41:25 PM   
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Certainly!

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RE: All American Over Nijmegen - Blown bridge - 5/8/2013 10:42:29 AM   
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Stephen. Got your mail. There's that one (Mook) and the two western crossing points at Ravenstein. You should try to get both probably.

But, you should have really heavily bombarded the Grave defenders (with your mortar and anything else) before approaching too close to Grave bridge. If E company is a little ahead of the bombardment I stop it before it gets close enough to frighten the defenders and give it instead a direct fire order against the defenders. Keep it doing that, on slow rate, until the rest of the Bn catches up and is in place and until you can get the Bn mortar in range to bombard the defenders nearest the bridge. Then try to take it. I have to confess that I've had a 100% success rate like this, though took me a while to work it out. You should do this at Ravenstein and Mook now. If they blow those crossings then you will have to wait for a bridge (as they did in reality, though not for Grave, which was taken intact, by E company alone, which, in my humble experience, never works in the game!)and will certainly then suffer the historical fate.

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RE: All American Over Nijmegen - Blown bridge - 5/8/2013 11:03:58 AM   
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Here I go take two.......Thanks Mr P

I'm sure there was a bridge between Grave and Moot in some version......must be my addled brain.

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RE: All American Over Nijmegen - Blown bridge - 5/8/2013 2:11:06 PM   
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Current situation - Day 2 18:21





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RE: All American Over Nijmegen - Blown bridge - 5/8/2013 3:23:21 PM   
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Did you re-run - do you hold Grave bridge now?

They all look like they have a supply line - that's an achievement. Where are all the Axis forces? - when I play they are always infiltrating my supply lines, which are, inevitably, as wide open as yours. Are they all tied up at Grosbeek?

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RE: All American Over Nijmegen - Blown bridge - 5/8/2013 3:31:04 PM   
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Held Grave!

Here is the latest situ.

I've ignored Grave garrison in the town, who are now a pain for Grenadier base unit.

As for Axis units you see what I see.....there are a few around Grosbeek but not too many. Nijmegen is tough





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RE: All American Over Nijmegen - Blown bridge - 5/8/2013 3:50:10 PM   
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You playing on build 262, Stephen? I'm wondering if the changes to supply line interdiction are making it easier to supply units. Can't understand, otherwise, how all your Nijmegan units are in supply, and mine never are when in such close proximity to enemy. But I haven't tested build 262 yet.

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RE: All American Over Nijmegen - Blown bridge - 5/8/2013 4:09:20 PM   
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Yes 262!

They were going out of supply a lot in Nijmegen town - I sent the 3Bn 505 up there specifically to open up some of the supply lines and worked.

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RE: All American Over Nijmegen - Blown bridge - 5/8/2013 5:50:12 PM   
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Day 5 just after midnight and crossed the Waal!! in force




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RE: All American Over Nijmegen - Blown bridge - 5/8/2013 9:16:50 PM   
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Hurrah! Pity you're not playing From the Meuse to the Rhine, as you could now race up to Arnhem and bury all those paras....

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RE: All American Over Nijmegen - Blown bridge - 5/9/2013 12:40:23 AM   
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quote:

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Here I go take two.......Thanks Mr P

I'm sure there was a bridge between Grave and Moot in some version......must be my addled brain.

There was a crossing in HTTR east of Grave near DZ O. It did not exist historically, nor could I find a reason for it's inclusion into the game - so I removed it.

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RE: All American Over Nijmegen - Blown bridge - 5/9/2013 11:50:07 AM   
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quote:

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Here I go take two.......Thanks Mr P

I'm sure there was a bridge between Grave and Moot in some version......must be my addled brain.

There was a crossing in HTTR east of Grave near DZ O. It did not exist historically, nor could I find a reason for it's inclusion into the game - so I removed it.


Now why did you go and do a thing like that!

I thought I was imagining things! phew


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RE: All American Over Nijmegen - Blown bridge - 5/9/2013 12:16:28 PM   
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In fact, we see you have an incredible memory! Because I don't remember it at all.

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RE: All American Over Nijmegen - Blown bridge - 5/9/2013 1:03:42 PM   
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Hoped for a decisive but?






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RE: All American Over Nijmegen - Blown bridge - 5/9/2013 1:31:02 PM   
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Now try from the Meuse to the Rhine.

You'll find it different, I think - harder. Lots of Axis forces flooding down to Nijmegan from Arnhem. Be very interested how you get on with it.

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RE: All American Over Nijmegen - Blown bridge - 5/9/2013 2:03:59 PM   
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quote:

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Now try from the Meuse to the Rhine.

You'll find it different, I think - harder. Lots of Axis forces flooding down to Nijmegan from Arnhem. Be very interested how you get on with it.


OK that's the bugger.

I'm still looking forward to a two player on this one when the decks are clear?


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RE: All American Over Nijmegen - Blown bridge - 5/9/2013 2:12:46 PM   
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Me too. Though can't say when that will be. Couple of months, at least. Must be other MP players in here. Put an advert up again.

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RE: All American Over Nijmegen - Blown bridge - 5/9/2013 2:15:00 PM   
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Me too. Though can't say when that will be. Couple of months, at least. Must be other MP players in here. Put an advert up again.


You would have thought so Mr P, you would have thought so. Their all running scared LLL


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RE: All American Over Nijmegen - Blown bridge - 5/9/2013 4:55:26 PM   
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Now try from the Meuse to the Rhine.

You'll find it different, I think - harder. Lots of Axis forces flooding down to Nijmegan from Arnhem. Be very interested how you get on with it.


hehe - Where did all the bad guys come from?

Meuse to the Rhine - Day2 07:20






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RE: Meuse to the Rhine. - 5/11/2013 12:04:30 PM   
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Had no joy with Meuse to the Rhine.

Overwhelmed south of Nijmegen.
Arnhem was easier but I was trying to interdict with the Axis flow of forces south to Nijmegen - could not achieve this. Thus Nijmegen was very tough.

How have others fared with Meuse to the Rhine?

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RE: Meuse to the Rhine. - 5/11/2013 2:56:40 PM   
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Had no joy with Meuse to the Rhine.

Overwhelmed south of Nijmegen.
Arnhem was easier but I was trying to interdict with the Axis flow of forces south to Nijmegen - could not achieve this. Thus Nijmegen was very tough.

How have others fared with Meuse to the Rhine?


Under historical settings, little better than the allies did (probably because I knew more about the enemy ground force dispositions from reading the history books before starting the battle than Monty knew at the time)!

Would have had a better time of it if the XXX Corps would get on their horses and establish betters ground LOC to my isolated units ;-).

Jockeying with reinforcements, supplies, orders delay and weather can get better results on the allied side, but Monty didn't have those options available at his command center.

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