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OT: First Men On The Moon - 5/5/2013 2:55:32 PM   
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So have you guys seen this?

http://www.firstmenonthemoon.com/

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RE: OT: First Men On The Moon - 5/5/2013 3:20:05 PM   
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Hmmm. Didn't Alice Kramden greet them when they landed?

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RE: OT: First Men On The Moon - 5/5/2013 3:24:43 PM   
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Neat find, my Argletonian colleague!

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RE: OT: First Men On The Moon - 5/5/2013 3:41:25 PM   
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Nice! Thank you!

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RE: OT: First Men On The Moon - 5/5/2013 7:16:47 PM   
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Hmmm. Didn't Alice Kramden greet them when they landed?


No, Grand Fenwick was:






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RE: OT: First Men On The Moon - 5/5/2013 9:54:22 PM   
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excellent site, thank you!

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RE: OT: First Men On The Moon - 5/6/2013 12:06:05 AM   
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Thanks, I remember watching that as a kid on a small b/w tv.

(and Sprior I still have a copy of The Mouse on the Moon)
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RE: OT: First Men On The Moon - 5/6/2013 12:14:37 AM   
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Thanks, I remember watching that as a kid on a small b/w tv.

(and Sprior I still have a copy of The Mouse on the Moon)
Daryl


I remember reading all of the Mouse/Grand Fenwick books years ago, great books (and a great ring of truth when I was a young International Relations major!).

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RE: OT: First Men On The Moon - 5/6/2013 10:33:56 PM   
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Good stuff, bring back memories of watching it live..... great times. Too bad we have stalled since then.

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RE: OT: First Men On The Moon - 5/7/2013 1:33:42 AM   
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Good stuff, bring back memories of watching it live..... great times. Too bad we have stalled since then.


So true. One of my great memories was the Company Commander (D.I. in the Navy!) brought in a portable TV so we could watch the landing live. The really good thing is that he gave us a very light day the next day because half of the boot camp company sat up and watched. You could have heard a pin drop for almost 20 minutes.

Too bad so many people cried about all that money being wasted on the space program. They must have thought that dollars were stuffed into the rockets and that was what was being shot off into outer space. Stupid!!! Every penny was spent employing people, buying goods and materials that employed people, using service that employed people, and even better, was spent on research and development which also employed people and led to a whole boatload of stuff we take for granted today.

Where would we be if we had continued at anywhere near that pace for the last 40 years?

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RE: OT: First Men On The Moon - 5/7/2013 4:01:13 AM   
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I will never forget it. I was not just amazing that we were landing on the moon but that millions of us were watching it on TV while it happened. The world over..


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RE: OT: First Men On The Moon - 5/7/2013 7:27:32 PM   
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To me what said it all about expectations in the late 60s was the movie 2001 A Space Odyssey. I remember thinking that starting years with 20 in place of 19 is odd enough, but being "out there" was going to be fantastic. And then it all stopped cold. When 2001 actually came and went and we had gone no where, I couldn't help but think how high our expectations were back then and the belief that we could do anything. That expectation has evaporated. Sad.

< Message edited by dr.hal -- 5/7/2013 8:14:46 PM >

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RE: OT: First Men On The Moon - 5/7/2013 7:53:14 PM   
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Oh, we could still do it, Dr. Hal. All it really takes is that the politicians involved actually develop a desire to move toward the future instead of protecting their present - which has been increasing the practice since 1972.

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RE: OT: First Men On The Moon - 5/7/2013 8:03:51 PM   
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Oh, we could still do it, Dr. Hal. All it really takes is that the politicians involved actually develop a desire to move toward the future instead of protecting their present - which has been increasing the practice since 1972.


NASA will never be able to have a goal and stick to it as long as the goals are set by politicians who are subject to re-election every 2-6 years. In many ways having Kennedy set the goal as the moon in landmark speech was part of the problem. Once that was achieved and the Soviets humbled, all interest in funding manned flight began to dribble away.

I generally think that NASA is doing quite well managing the budget they have. I'd prefer more robotic, and less manned budget, but I understand the need for both. I am hopeful that someday there will be a sentiment favoring paying taxes to support big science in a bigger way, but that day is not now.

I have no love for bogus conspiracy theories, but guess I can see why a more cynical generation questions if we ever really went to the moon when we haven't been back in forty years.

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RE: OT: First Men On The Moon - 5/7/2013 8:16:57 PM   
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Wouldn't it be cool if we could pick where our taxes would be spent??? Now that would bring about change....

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RE: OT: First Men On The Moon - 5/7/2013 8:21:24 PM   
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Wouldn't it be cool if we could pick where our taxes would be spent??? Now that would bring about change....


What's funny is that if tomorrow, China were to announce that they are going to the moon with the goal of eventually setting up a permanent base there, Congress would vote NASA a bottomless purse faster than you can say "blast-off".

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RE: OT: First Men On The Moon - 5/7/2013 8:58:22 PM   
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GOOD POINT, that means there is hope yet!!!

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RE: OT: First Men On The Moon - 5/8/2013 3:19:47 AM   
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NASA will never be able to have a goal and stick to it as long as the goals are set by politicians who are subject to re-election every 2-6 years. In many ways having Kennedy set the goal as the moon in landmark speech was part of the problem. Once that was achieved and the Soviets humbled, all interest in funding manned flight began to dribble away.



On the other hand, having Kennedy set the goal was possibly the one way to ensure that we accomplished it. We have had other presidents set ambitious goals for NASA and other programs (Reagan and Star Wars, Bush rolled out a 'new vision for NASA' to return to the moon) but succeeding administrations found it pretty easy to shift priorities. Because of Kennedy's assassination, I think there was a great sense in the country that we had to fulfil his ambitions, not quite a dying wish, but something like that in the national psyche. Had Johnson tried to re-prioritize or cancel the program, it would be seen as a betrayal of a president that we still had a strong emotional attachment too. Not sure it would have had the same effect if the speech had been made by Eisenhower or Johnson (or Nixon!).

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RE: OT: First Men On The Moon - 5/9/2013 2:02:36 AM   
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The cat's meow...A piece of history to be coveted 100,000 years after no one remembers our names.

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RE: OT: First Men On The Moon - 5/9/2013 2:58:48 PM   
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Wouldn't it be cool if we could pick where our taxes would be spent??? Now that would bring about change....


What's funny is that if tomorrow, China were to announce that they are going to the moon with the goal of eventually setting up a permanent base there, Congress would vote NASA a bottomless purse faster than you can say "blast-off".

And we'd have to borrow the money from .... wait for it .... it's coming .... the Chinese!

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RE: OT: First Men On The Moon - 5/9/2013 4:14:57 PM   
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And we'd have to borrow the money from .... wait for it .... it's coming .... the Chinese!


They're quite content to fund our defense budget so it wouldn't surprise me.

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RE: OT: First Men On The Moon - 5/9/2013 4:53:14 PM   
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That webpage was very interesting. Thanks for posting the link

I'd like Cmdr Armstrong's first words to be: "we got here first, r00skia. suck it!" But ppl were more classy back then. Plus all those guys were top notch.



SLAAKMAN will be along presently to provide links 'proving' its all a faked conspiracy


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