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Looking for topo maps of Russia - 4/15/2013 1:30:31 PM   
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Status: offline 		I'm looking for some War era topo maps of Russia..at around 1:25,000 if possible. If anyone can help would be greatly appreciated I was wondering what Panther games has come across for the EF game for instance with regards to finding maps.

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RE: Looking for topo maps of Russia - 4/15/2013 2:20:38 PM   
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Status: online 		Thankfully Pavel who is taking the lead on the East Front game has access to some Soviet maps but the text on these is all in Russian script so I am reliant on them converting it all into English. We are using 1:50,000 and 1:100,000 maps IIRC. Pavel can correct me if I've got that wrong.

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RE: Looking for topo maps of Russia - 4/15/2013 2:28:50 PM   
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Status: offline 		You might want to pay this site a visit:

http://www.wwii-photos-maps.com/

I think I have a link to a Polish site somewhere in my favourites at home, will look it up later.

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RE: Looking for topo maps of Russia - 4/15/2013 2:32:22 PM   
wodin


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Great maps but I'm probably looking for something at a lower scale..Bil recommended 1:25,000 I suppose 1:50,000 at a push.

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RE: Looking for topo maps of Russia - 4/15/2013 2:41:30 PM   
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Status: offline 		Here is the other link Wodin.


http://english.mapywig.org/viewpage.php?page_id=42

This especially might be interesting for you:

Note: German maps in 1:25,000 scale, so-called Meßtischblatt, or Topographische Karte (TK) can be downloaded from the Mapster project.

The subject is mainly Poland, but there is a wealth of maps to be found there, also covering Soviet territory.


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RE: Looking for topo maps of Russia - 4/15/2013 2:47:26 PM   
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RE: Looking for topo maps of Russia - 4/15/2013 8:06:26 PM   
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Status: offline 		with google translate and bits of patience, lots of useful topo maps are to be found here:

http://topmap.narod.ru/index.html

hm..I see this site degraded s lot over time, many 404´s and such. Too bad...

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RE: Looking for topo maps of Russia - 4/17/2013 9:09:01 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: wodin

I'm looking for some War era topo maps of Russia..at around 1:25,000 if possible. If anyone can help would be greatly appreciated I was wondering what Panther games has come across for the EF game for instance with regards to finding maps.


these have the scale you need:

http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/ams/eastern_europe/

They are from the 1950s so the road/rail net is more or less correct for the Great Patriotic War but the town names have changed so it can be a bit confusing. But as topographical maps they probably are as good as it gets

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RE: Looking for topo maps of Russia - 4/17/2013 9:54:57 AM   
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ORIGINAL: loki100


quote:

ORIGINAL: wodin

I'm looking for some War era topo maps of Russia..at around 1:25,000 if possible. If anyone can help would be greatly appreciated I was wondering what Panther games has come across for the EF game for instance with regards to finding maps.


these have the scale you need:

http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/ams/eastern_europe/

They are from the 1950s so the road/rail net is more or less correct for the Great Patriotic War but the town names have changed so it can be a bit confusing. But as topographical maps they probably are as good as it gets


Although these maps are 1:250.000 (not 1:25.000) I find them to be useful, thanks!

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RE: Looking for topo maps of Russia - 4/17/2013 10:17:22 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Ramses

You might want to pay this site a visit:

http://www.wwii-photos-maps.com/

I think I have a link to a Polish site somewhere in my favourites at home, will look it up later.


The most interesting stuff (1:25.000 and 1:50.000) is in here:

http://www.wwii-photos-maps.com/home_page_007.htm

Also the map key helps to sort out the various regions (M,N,O)quicker:

http://www.wwii-photos-maps.com/russianmapkeys/

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RE: Looking for topo maps of Russia - 4/17/2013 12:33:09 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks everyone..thanks Harry..great find. Though have no idea where abouts they are supposed to be those 1:25,000 maps

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RE: Looking for topo maps of Russia - 4/17/2013 2:06:19 PM   
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ORIGINAL: wodin

Thanks everyone..thanks Harry..great find. Though have no idea where abouts they are supposed to be those 1:25,000 maps


As said, 1:25.000 maps are on this page

http://www.wwii-photos-maps.com/home_page_007.htm

and according to the map key here

http://www.wwii-photos-maps.com/russianmapkeys/slides/Leningrad-Moscow.html

cover the area from the eastern edge of the baltics and area between Leningrad and Rchev (O35, O36), but surely it´s all not complete. Most maps are german military maps, made from russian ones, supplemented with additional info, partly with Arty reference grids.

Personally I find the 1:50.000 scale maps sufficient for wargame mapping needs and there´s also way more available and cover larger parts of mother russia.

Beside that, it´s just a basic pointer and you really need to browse through the collections if you´re looking for a particular area map.

For what L, M, N and O means, take this

http://www.wwii-photos-maps.com/russianmapkeys/slides/Europe.html

as a rough guide.

L = south
M,N = middle
O = northern parts of russia

Here´s a PDF document usable for deciphering russian map symbols:

http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/EART/pdf/soviet.pdf

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RE: Looking for topo maps of Russia - 4/17/2013 8:08:46 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks mate. Well for TU I thought 1:25 would be best if I'm going to be using them in game..Bil recommended that scale map to me.

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RE: Looking for topo maps of Russia - 4/18/2013 2:42:44 AM   
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Status: offline 		www.mapstor.com has a ton of them, very good, but most in Cyrillic

Lazarus.elte.hu/hun/digkonyv/topo/3felmeres.htm also is good, these are old Austro-Hungarian military maps, here knowledge of German is helpful.

Both sites have incredible amounts of very good topo maps if you can work around the language issues Jason.

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RE: Looking for topo maps of Russia - 4/18/2013 2:53:06 AM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks mate..Thanks everyone. Some great links.

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RE: Looking for topo maps of Russia - 4/18/2013 1:40:08 PM   
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ORIGINAL: wodin

I'm looking for some War era topo maps of Russia..at around 1:25,000 if possible ...


Have you posted a request to the Panzer Command Oestfront forum?
They have a lot of experience with these maps.

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RE: Looking for topo maps of Russia - 4/18/2013 1:54:05 PM   
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