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Naval Support/Shipping Engineers - 4/11/2013 1:31:24 PM   
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I am a bit confused about how these impact loading of cargo. I thought I read somewhere that these only impact loading of resources and supply, not fuel and oil. Is this true, or do they also actually help loading the liquids?
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RE: Naval Support/Shipping Engineers - 4/11/2013 1:44:11 PM   
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I am a bit confused about how these impact loading of cargo. I thought I read somewhere that these only impact loading of resources and supply, not fuel and oil. Is this true, or do they also actually help loading the liquids?

correct. Read my econ101 doc in my sig or look at the manual for the relevant info. p124

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RE: Naval Support/Shipping Engineers - 4/11/2013 2:07:56 PM   
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If you stop and think about it, liquids flow through a pipe and no matter how many stevedores you might have, it will not speed up the flow one drop!

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RE: Naval Support/Shipping Engineers - 4/11/2013 2:40:05 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Icedawg

I am a bit confused about how these impact loading of cargo. I thought I read somewhere that these only impact loading of resources and supply, not fuel and oil. Is this true, or do they also actually help loading the liquids?

correct. Read my econ101 doc in my sig or look at the manual for the relevant info. p124



they do help loading fuel if you load a xAK with fuel though. That way you can load masses of fuel on freighters faster than on dedicated tankers. The compartment on the xAK that is supposed to hold liquid (fuel) only is loading like a TK, the rest (means the big majority of the freighter's capacity) loads like loading supply which loads like hell if there is enough nav support around.

Seems like an oversight to me, don't know if it is working as designed. But that question could be asked back in WITP already when I moved probably as much fuel around in xAK as I did in TK. One of the aspects that makes it so easy. Freighters should be limited to carry fuel only in the compartments that are built for loading fuel, not like carrying 50% of the total fuel on the map in drums. So many drums were never built nor could you load it faster than a TK that way.

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RE: Naval Support/Shipping Engineers - 4/11/2013 8:28:28 PM   
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I don't know why it couldn't be representing lots and lots (and lots and lots) of 55-gallon drums filled with oil/fuel.

I mean, that's an absurd number of drums if you're doing it on a large scale, but still - abstractions.

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RE: Naval Support/Shipping Engineers - 4/12/2013 12:33:55 AM   
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Yes, it is assumed that liquids loaded into cargo space are in drums. This is why the space used per ton of fuel or oil is so much larger on an AK.

AKs are much better at moving resources and supplies than fuel, but in a pinch, they can be loaded with barrels of fuel. Since the Allies have a lot of AKs, you can move a lot of fuel this way.

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RE: Naval Support/Shipping Engineers - 4/12/2013 12:34:40 PM   
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I don't know why it couldn't be representing lots and lots (and lots and lots) of 55-gallon drums filled with oil/fuel.

I mean, that's an absurd number of drums if you're doing it on a large scale, but still - abstractions.


Placed on pallets its not too bad.

Actually quite a few modern chemicals are shifted in this manner for local use.

(Chemicals that fall into the mid range, that I need more than a gallon, and somewhat less than a rail car, the old 55 gallon drum is about it for packaging, so the producers palletise them, ship them to distribution and then onwards.)

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