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RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 - 10/21/2013 12:37:06 PM   
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Turn 195

Overall
The ground freezes again, which suggests that the USSR will launch a lot of attacks this turn.
Last turn the USSR made 7 attacks and scored 5 helds and 2 retreats. We made 2 attacks and got 1 held and 1 retreat.

Losses
USSR : 55.000 troops, 407 guns, 353 AFVs, 294 AC.
Axis : 20.000 troops, 268 guns, 72 AFVs, 44 AC.

Axis units destroyed
1 Fortified Zone.

German units disbanded
3 Fortified Zones. We also disbanded the Clausewitz Panzer Division and the 37th SS Cavalry Division.

German Pools
Manpower : 55.774
Vehicles : 172.280
Armaments : 0
Hiwi : 223







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RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 - 10/23/2013 12:06:49 PM   
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Turn 196 aka The Fat Lady has NOT sung yet, or aka Charge of the Light Brigade

Overall
The USSR launches a lot of attacks and score rather well. However we counterattack more than before, and we cut off and isolate two USSR guard corps. True, they will be saved, but still, a morale boost to us, and a show of strength to the USSR. A warning as well, do not get too confident, we still have teeth!
34 USSR attacks ended with 21 helds, 10 retreats and 3 routs. The good news is that they were unable to break through one line and in the same turn take out the next line anywhere. We make 8 attacks and score 2 helds and 6 retreats.

Losses
Probably a lot of guys named Fritz and Ivan...

Axis units destroyed
63rd LW Flak Regiment, 4th JagdPanzer Battalion.

German units disbanded
3 Fortified Zones. The Stettin Static Division is merged into another Infantry Division.

German Pools
Argh! Forgot to check. My bad.







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RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 - 10/24/2013 12:42:53 PM   
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Turn 197

Overall
Mud once more. The USSR kept hammering, but were repulsed for the most part. 37 attacks gave them 30 helds, 6 retreats and 1 rout.

Losses
Still FUBAR.

Axis units destroyed
None.

German units disbanded
4 Fortified Zones.

German Pools
Manpower : 66.414
Vehicles : 171.206
Armaments : 0
Hiwi : 313
Hmm, 171k trucks barring all roads into Berlin would be my Hail Mary at this point!






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RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 - 10/24/2013 2:10:22 PM   
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och, small but perfectly formed

there is something horribly gripping to this end game - its clear what is going to happen but not when. In a way every bit as gripping as the opening dynamics to the game ...

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RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 - 10/24/2013 2:23:52 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: loki100

och, small but perfectly formed

there is something horribly gripping to this end game - its clear what is going to happen but not when. In a way every bit as gripping as the opening dynamics to the game ...


All depends upon the mud now, pray for a long spell


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RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 - 10/25/2013 5:37:05 PM   
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Turn 198

Overall
Himmler TOLD me he had made all the correct sacrifices to the weather-gods, but still we are back to Blizzard. I need mud, and I need a lot of it! The USSR made 10 attacks and scored 9 helds and 1 retreat (far south), while me made 1 attack and scored 1 retreat.

Losses
USSR : 67.000 troops, 737 guns, 555 AFVs, 420 AC.
Axis : 25.000 troops, 304 guns, 54 AFVs, 61 AC.

Axis units destroyed
None.

German units disbanded
1 Fortified Zone.

German Pools
Manpower : 76.986
Vehicles : 165.212
Armaments : 0
Hiwi : 38
Guns not trucks Speer!!!







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RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 - 10/26/2013 8:39:44 AM   
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Turn 199

Overall
Mud again, but I could really have done without that last turn of blizzard (see below). We got a lot of reinforcements that frankly serves us no purpose at this time, so we disbanded them.
34 USSR attacks led to 23 helds and 11 retreats, while our 1 attack scored 1 retreat.

Losses
USSR : 103.000 troops, 1.556 guns, 758 AFVs, 628 AC.
Axis : 43.000 troops, 868 guns, 231 AFVs, 44 AC.

Axis units destroyed
None.

German units disbanded
3 Fortified Zones, East Preussian Army, 12th Army, XXXII Corps, 169th Infantry Division, 715th Infantry Division, 182nd Grenadier Division and the 36th SS Grenadier Division.

German Pools
Manpower : 152.965
Vehicles : 170.416
Armaments : 0
Hiwi : 248

*edited* I disbanded 3 not 31 fortified zones





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RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 - 10/27/2013 1:52:26 PM   
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One of many charms of WitE - incredibly low losses for unsuccessful attacks.

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RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 - 10/28/2013 11:15:19 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Kamil

One of many charms of WitE - incredibly low losses for unsuccessful attacks.


I find that more annoying in -41 and -42 when there were still the "charge through or be shot when you come back"-mentality as well as poor tactics in the USSR army....
I actually find it more annoying as well that it is so darned easy to reduce a fort when your attack fails miserably....


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RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 - 10/28/2013 12:26:17 PM   
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Turn 200

Overall
Do you want the good or the bad news first? Well, if you opted for good first, then I am sorry.
In the South, the USSR breaks through our defensive line, and I will lose 3 divisions here. The good news. Well, atleast I have a second line in the rear ready for the USSR to break through, and I have spare divisions to fill the gaps. Second piece of good news is that our Berlin defenders have repaired the damage to the fortifications, so that the fort level is once more back at 3.
27 USSR attacks meant 17 helds, 8 retreats, 1 rout and 1 surrender.

Losses
USSR : 76.000 troops, 927 guns, 501 AFVs, 487 AC.
Axis : 31.000 troops, 587 guns, 82 AFVs, 50 AC.

Axis units destroyed
2 Fortified Zones.

German units disbanded
4 Fortified Zones.

German Pools
Manpower : 143.090
Vehicles : 169.693
Armaments : 0
Hiwi : 246

Victory parameters
Victory levels for the 1941-45 and 1942-45 campaign scenarios:
Decisive Soviet Victory - If Germany surrenders in 1944 or earlier. - Nope
Major Soviet Victory - If Germany surrenders between 1/1/45 and 5/31/45. - Possible and likely
Minor Soviet Victory - If Germany surrenders between 6/30/45 and 9/30/45. - Possible, but less likely
Draw - Germany does not surrender by 10/01/45 and the Axis player has less than 142 points. - Possible but unlikely
Minor Axis Victory - The Axis controls 142-199 points at the end of the game. - Still Possible I suppose, but VERY unlikely
Major Axis Victory - The Axis controls 200-289 points at the end of the game. - Still Possible I suppose, but VERY unlikely
Decisive Axis Victory - At any time the Axis controls 290 points. - Still Possible I suppose, but EXTREMELY unlikely

So, most likely a USSR Major Victory in the end .






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RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 - 10/29/2013 11:55:44 AM   
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Turn 201

Disclaimer
Forgot to count attacks.
Also forgot to check my pools.
Gee guess I was more tired than I thought. Sorry about this.

Overall
Some minor adjustments of the front on our behalf, and a few USSR attack, of which only one succeeded.

Losses
USSR : 68.000 troops, 867 guns, 385 AFVs, 464 AC.
Axis : 27.000 troops, 474 guns, 48 AFVs, 32 AC.

Axis units destroyed
None.

German units disbanded
2 Fortified Zones.

German Pools








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RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 - 10/29/2013 3:28:24 PM   
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well, you're still hanging in there - guess it depends on if these gains collapses your entire defense once the weather clears ..

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RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 - 10/29/2013 3:30:49 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: loki100

well, you're still hanging in there - guess it depends on if these gains collapses your entire defense once the weather clears ..


The one in the north will. Not that concerned about the one in the south.

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RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 - 10/30/2013 12:36:42 PM   
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Turn 202

Overall
Thankfully the mud reduces the amount of USSR attacks, although they do push some in the south where the USSR still had clear weather. 16 USSR attacks gave a result of 10 helds, 5 retreats and 1 surrender.

Losses
USSR : 56.000 troops, 623 guns, 338 AFVs, 582 AC.
Axis : 52.000 troops, 792 guns, 176 AFVs, 116 AC.
Flew a lot of recon, hence the high number of lost AC.

Axis units destroyed
24th Pz.Div, 20th SS Grenadier Division, 299th Volksgrenadier Division.

German units disbanded
12 Fortified Zones, 24th Pz.Div, 20th SS Grenadier Division, 299th Volksgrenadier Division.

Geman Pools
Manpower : 168.498
Vehicles : 167.729
Armaments : 0
Hiwi : 2.316








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RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 - 10/30/2013 9:21:54 PM   
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I definitively love your stubborn defence!!!



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RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 - 10/31/2013 2:19:18 AM   
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Hey Terje -I knew you'd last until Spring. Hats off! Another fine end game.

Brad

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RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 - 10/31/2013 2:20:28 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: STEF78

I definitively love your stubborn defence!!!




Thank you


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RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 - 10/31/2013 2:20:48 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Oloren

Hey Terje -I knew you'd last until Spring. Hats off! Another fine end game.

Brad



Seems you knew better than me



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RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 - 11/1/2013 7:16:52 AM   
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Hey Terje, good to see you holding out to the bitter end as usual. I'm doing a little bit of rebalancing with the editor at the moment and was hoping that you could post a screen shot of your production screen (or zipped save game) so I can see which elements are in overabundance in late game.

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RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 - 11/1/2013 3:50:34 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Priapus1

Hey Terje, good to see you holding out to the bitter end as usual. I'm doing a little bit of rebalancing with the editor at the moment and was hoping that you could post a screen shot of your production screen (or zipped save game) so I can see which elements are in overabundance in late game.



Will do



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RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 - 11/1/2013 4:28:40 PM   
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Turn 203

Overall
Crap. Mud is gone in the north. That is bad news!
The USSR made 2 attacks and scored 2 helds, while our 5 attacks scored 3 helds and 2 retreats. 2 of the helds are ok, the third...350% multiplier of the USSR CV...

Losses
USSR : 53.000 troops, 513 guns, 175 AFVs, 241 AC.
Axis : 18.000 troops, 184 guns, 53 AFVs, 15 AC.

Axis units destroyed
None.

German units disbanded
None.

German Pools
Manpower : 144.229
Vehicles : 166.885
Armaments : 0
Hiwi : 1


And as promised, pool numbers;




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RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 - 11/2/2013 12:10:19 PM   
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Turn 204 aka I hate to be right

Overall
Remember how I said it was bad news that the mud was gone? I was right...Just see below. We are now very near the end here. Mud again now, but still very near the end...
56 USSR attacks gave a result of 32 helds, 22 retreats and 2 routs.

Losses
USSR : 103.000 troops, 1.667 guns, 559 AFVs, 1.402 AC.
Axis : 55.000 troops, 1.284 guns, 193 AFVs, 119 AC.
Heavy losses all around. Had this been one week against the RAF in the BoB, the RAF would have been destroyed in this week alone...

Axis units destroyed
None.

German units disbanded
3 Fortified Zones.

German Pools
Manpower : 163.867
Vehicles : 169.608
Armaments : 0
Hiwi : 296







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RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 - 11/2/2013 1:36:31 PM   
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grim stuff indeed ... but it does make for compelling viewing (sorry )

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RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 - 11/2/2013 1:41:21 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: loki100

grim stuff indeed ... but it does make for compelling viewing (sorry )


Hehehe no worries


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RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 - 11/2/2013 5:44:24 PM   
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Well its past the 8th of May '45 and virtual Hitler is still alive. Didnt i say u would make it!... pheeeew... dodged a bullit there

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RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 - 11/2/2013 6:25:46 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Walloc

Well its past the 8th of May '45 and virtual Hitler is still alive. Didnt i say u would make it!... pheeeew... dodged a bullit there


Hehe yeah, so even though I made worse progress eastwards, I did better westwards than the irl German army



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RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 - 11/2/2013 7:47:28 PM   
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Terje, I'm picturing you in your bunker staring at a portrait of Frederick the Great and screaming: "Where is Wenck? Where is Wenck?"

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RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 - 11/3/2013 2:33:16 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Bozo_the_Clown

Terje, I'm picturing you in your bunker staring at a portrait of Frederick the Great and screaming: "Where is Wenck? Where is Wenck?"


No no. I am screaming "why can I not get my troops to use the weapons and trucks I have ready"


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RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 - 11/3/2013 4:17:14 AM   
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Turn 205

Overall
The mud still holds, which gives us another turn to live. In the south we do give up the city of Gorlitz as it is surrounded on 5 sides by the USSR. The units cut off in the north is the target of USSR attacks, and we lose quite a few since northern Germany is not connected with Denmark here .
28 USSR attacks meant 18 helds, 2 scouted, 7 retreats and 1 surrender.

Losses
USSR : 68.000 troops, 777 guns, 267 AFVs, 644 AC.
Axis : 48.000 troops, 677 guns, 64 AFVs, 46 AC.

Axis units destroyed
117th Jager Division, 76th Inf.Div, 227th Inf.Div, 904th StuG Brigade, 46th Pioneer Battalion, 50th Pioneer Battalion, 5/46th SP Flak Company..

German units disbanded
1 Fortified Zone, 563rd Volksgrenadier Division, and the 92nd Motorized Brigade. We also merged the 15th Inf.Div, 153rd Inf.Div, 75th Volksgrenadier Division into other divisions.

German Pools
Manpower : 163.682
Vehicles : 165.076
Armaments : 0
Hiwi : 237






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RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 - 11/3/2013 4:20:00 AM   
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From the manual in regards of victory conditions;
Major Soviet Victory - If Germany surrenders between 1/1/45 and 5/31/45. 
Minor Soviet Victory - If Germany surrenders between 6/30/45 and 9/30/45.

What happens if I surrender between 6/1/45 and 6/29/45 (or 1/6/45 and 29/6/45 which ofc makes more sense for us Europeans ).
Do I win?


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