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DOH - 3/16/2013 2:57:33 AM   
shunwick


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Status: offline 		So I finally ditched IE for Firefox. Will someone please explain to me why I did not do this a long, long time ago?

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RE: DOH - 3/16/2013 3:32:19 AM   
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Status: offline 		A while back I posted a link to a story about the problem with Firefox's user base growing. Early on with a tiny user base it stayed under the radar of hackers, but things are changing.

Basically because it's not main stream like IE, there are relatively few people working on securing it to keep the hackers at bay, but because it has grown so much in popularity hackers have begun to hack it more and more to break into systems. So I'd be leery of using it on a system with your vital banking and other info stored on it.

Here's the post with the link, not sure if the story is still up:

http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=2380690

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RE: DOH - 3/16/2013 7:44:17 AM   
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Status: offline 		Personally, I've been using Opera for years now and like it a lot. It's definitely "under the radar" as it has a tiny market share, but has always been on the cutting edge of new developments. I used to be a Firefox fan, but can't stand it after using Opera.

It's worth a look!

http://www.opera.com/

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RE: DOH - 3/16/2013 1:05:00 PM   
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RE: DOH - 3/16/2013 2:18:43 PM   
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Status: offline 		Guys and Guyettes,

It looks like that I am behind the learning curve again. I shall try out Maxathon and Opera.

Jim, thanks for the information on the security problems with Firefox.

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RE: DOH - 3/16/2013 2:43:11 PM   
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Status: offline 		Another vote for Opera from me, been using it for a long time and find it very good.

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RE: DOH - 3/16/2013 2:55:34 PM   
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RE: DOH - 3/16/2013 3:19:41 PM   
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Where've you lads all been lately? Google Chrome. See reviews.

Google Chrome locks up my OpenSUSE Linux system every few days. An earlier Chrome version would eat all memory and start the system to swapping.

OTOH, I use Chrome happily on a separate (old) Fedora Core Linux installed system.

Chrome is hit or miss. Your Mileage May Vary.



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RE: DOH - 3/16/2013 4:12:36 PM   
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Where've you lads all been lately? Google Chrome. See reviews.


I refuse to entertain any software that tries to piggy back onto my machine by having tick boxes that I have to undo in the installation process of a totally different piece of software, sometimes it seems it's almost like it's trying to trick you into installing it.


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RE: DOH - 3/16/2013 4:30:46 PM   
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Status: online 		Over the last few years I have had windows with firefox, chrome and safari. Every time I find one that works well they have an update that changes something and makes it into a resource hog. Currently I have windows 8 with IE10 and it is faster than the others for me. For all browsers I find the setting that clears history etc, at every close, so that if it slows down, I can start fresh.

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RE: DOH - 3/16/2013 4:43:58 PM   
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Status: offline 		Maxathon uses Chrome tech but is faster again..I was firefox for years..now I can't see myself dropping Maxathon.

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RE: DOH - 3/16/2013 4:44:48 PM   
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One of the reasons that I stuck with IE for so long was that I have always been relatively happy with it. But just recently it has been causing me problems.

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RE: DOH - 3/16/2013 4:59:17 PM   
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Status: online 		If you can, try IE 10. Do/did you have any add ons that scanned web addresses for safety? I have found that some of those tool bars for searching and safety really clog things up or stall page loading.

I remember going from a 486 @ 33mhz to a PII 200mhz because web pages were getting so graphic intense that they wouldn't load fully. With AOL dialup at 28.8 we would get booted off when the wife was in a chat room and someone used colored text and a fancy font.

I knew then that upgrading computers was going to be driven by more and more intense web pages and demands.

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RE: DOH - 3/16/2013 6:00:04 PM   
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Status: offline 		It wasn't the speed of loading web pages that was the problem. It kept maxing out my memory. I would look at a couple of threads here and then I would have to close it down to free up memory and then restart it. I am running Vista with 3Gb of memeory. Not sure of my version number for IE. I will check.

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RE: DOH - 3/16/2013 11:17:58 PM   
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Maxathon uses Chrome tech but is faster again..I was firefox for years..now I can't see myself dropping Maxathon.
Thanks- I'll have to look at this, though it is unfortunately not a big player currently.

Sometimes I forget what I use to get the speed I need, because I have it so in the background, but Chrome can be a BIG memory hog, like almost all browsers if you let them- pile in enough bells and whistles and any one of them will eventually grind to a halt.

Try Purge Memory in Google Chrome if you're using it. And for all purge history periodically and only load add-ons you use everyday- in Chrome I've a ton disabled that I enable only when I need them (like adding something to my Amazon Wish List). These can really add up and are what brought down Firefox for me (which ended up taking longer to load than the time I needed it for).

Advanced System Care is real handy freeware for cleaning your system daily/weekly of all sorts of rubbish, including purging your internet temporary files whatever browser you use.

The piggy backing comment in reference to Chrome I find baffling- it's a pretty clean install- sure you don't mean IE or other stuff like AVG trying to load you up with their useless search engines to direct your search to where they want rather than to the info you need?

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RE: DOH - 3/17/2013 1:34:07 AM   
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The piggy backing comment in reference to Chrome I find baffling- it's a pretty clean install- sure you don't mean IE or other stuff like AVG trying to load you up with their useless search engines to direct your search to where they want rather than to the info you need?


Really very sure, I'm on about chrome sleekly trying to install itself when you update adobe, flash, skype, avast etc and as I would hate to see you continuing to be permanently baffled by this I've added a couple of links below so you can get up to speed, enjoy.

http://forums.adobe.com/message/4692105
http://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/chrome/KvUAeVjdSro
http://www.salsitasoft.com/2011/09/23/wonder-how-chrome-is-growing-market-share-ask-adobe/
http://forums.v3.co.uk/showthread.php?t=228241
http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=2439515


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RE: DOH - 3/17/2013 2:22:51 AM   
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So I finally ditched IE for Firefox. Will someone please explain to me why I did not do this a long, long time ago?

Best wishes,
Steve


Because Google Chrome is better.

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RE: DOH - 3/17/2013 3:10:22 AM   
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quote:

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The piggy backing comment in reference to Chrome I find baffling- it's a pretty clean install- sure you don't mean IE or other stuff like AVG trying to load you up with their useless search engines to direct your search to where they want rather than to the info you need?


Really very sure, I'm on about chrome sleekly trying to install itself when you update adobe, flash, skype, avast etc and as I would hate to see you continuing to be permanently baffled by this I've added a couple of links below so you can get up to speed, enjoy.

http://forums.adobe.com/message/4692105
http://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/chrome/KvUAeVjdSro
http://www.salsitasoft.com/2011/09/23/wonder-how-chrome-is-growing-market-share-ask-adobe/
http://forums.v3.co.uk/showthread.php?t=228241
http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=2439515

Ah, yes, I see, and thanks for the links. I thought you meant Google Chrome trying to install bloatware once you'd agreed to install it, not other outfits looking to throw in Chrome on the back of whatever they're peddling.

Standard industry procedure I'm afraid these days, though sad to see outfits like Google and Adobe stooping to this. So not baffled, just surprised- I suppose the caveat is be careful, it's a nasty (cyber)world out there, so watch what you're agreeing to install with those check boxes.

Just to make it an even playing field, folks might want to look at their add-ons/extensions and see just which ones they ever agreed to or recall installing (or even want or use)- that's whatever browser you're using. You might be unpleasantly surprised.

I have and occasionally use Firefox and IE. If IE ISN'T your default browser it always asks if you want it to be, and there are some add-ons I can disable but NOT uninstall. Likewise with Firefox, though you can remove many more add-ons- only a few are Disable-only.

A good review- I think- is here. IE fails. Firefox is best if you have a system with limited memory, Chrome seems best for stability and security. This would match my experience. My system has 3GB (Win 7) which I wouldn't consider limited memory (I've got all 3 running as I write to check items), ergo I use Chrome. The extensions are good and integration to services excellent (gmail, youtube++). Anyway, I said look at the reviews so another here and try if you like.

At the end of the day, a personal preference and good luck whatever your choice.


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RE: DOH - 3/17/2013 1:52:14 PM   
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Tried Chrome. Using it now as matter of fact. But it keeps giving me a pop-up every minute or so saying that the current webpage is not responding. Has happened while I was typing this reply. It is so annoying that unless I can find a way to turn the bloody thing off I shall be ditching Chrome to the waste bin.

I don't think Vista will run IE 10 and I have IE 9. I am quite liking both Opera and Maxthon.

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RE: DOH - 3/17/2013 2:26:28 PM   
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RE: DOH - 3/17/2013 8:32:49 PM   
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Opera is going away so don't get used to it.


Opera is going away?



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RE: DOH - 3/17/2013 8:42:25 PM   
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http://news.softpedia.com/news/Opera-Will-Release-a-Google-Chrome-Clone-in-the-Coming-Months-329082.shtml

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RE: DOH - 3/17/2013 8:44:25 PM   
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So I finally ditched IE for Firefox. Will someone please explain to me why I did not do this a long, long time ago?

Best wishes,
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I've used Firefox for many years and it is NOT flawless by any means. It's better than IE but it has it's problems here and there.

I've also used Thunderbird for about ten years plus, which is the email program from Mozilla, Firefox's email client. It too has many issues that irritate. However it's better than Outlook and it's issues.

So Firefox and Thunderbird, two birds of a feather and both have lice.

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RE: DOH - 3/17/2013 10:30:53 PM   
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RE: DOH - 3/17/2013 10:42:02 PM   
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RE: DOH - 3/18/2013 2:31:48 PM   
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Tried Chrome. Using it now as matter of fact. But it keeps giving me a pop-up every minute or so saying that the current webpage is not responding. Has happened while I was typing this reply. It is so annoying that unless I can find a way to turn the bloody thing off I shall be ditching Chrome to the waste bin.
Here's some ideas to fine tune for Chrome- last year's articles only.

Unless Google stumbles badly or someone (else) comes out with something truly revolutionary, with its integration facilities (youtube, gmail, search ++) I think it's the future.

But then a browser's a personal choice- I can only say I've tried almost all and this is my poison.

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RE: DOH - 3/18/2013 7:08:01 PM   
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Right. It is going to be Maxthon. How can choosing an internet browser be so bloody difficult?
Good luck. The problem with the browser 'minor league' players is a lack of add-ons/extensions.

Time was Firefox was the undisputed leader here- now Google Chrome gives it maybe more than a run for its money (actually they're free). See here for ideas (last year only), a snap to install and switch on/off if you need the memory elsewhere.

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RE: DOH - 3/18/2013 11:22:54 PM   
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I ditched firefox for maxathon..fastest browser out there.


I'm using it on my Kindle Fire and it works well, especially avoiding browser crashes on sites like Huffington Post, that will crash the "Silk" browser constantly!

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RE: DOH - 3/18/2013 11:35:17 PM   
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Only just recently IE has been de-throwned and after a time looking like i would be Firefox that would be all "it". Chrome has changed that.
Btw i still swear at IE, with the occational use of Chrome.

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RE: DOH - 3/18/2013 11:46:00 PM   
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See here

http://news.softpedia.com/news/Opera-Will-Release-a-Google-Chrome-Clone-in-the-Coming-Months-329082.shtml


Frankly, I don't care what internal engine they choose to use, if they keep their innovative user interface. The fact that Opera has long claimed to be the "fastest" browser isn't why I use opera. It's the interface... and according to their press release that will be ported over to their open source Chrome based engine.

I don't see any need to change, but I do have IE, FF, and Chrome on my PC anyway and use them occasionally so I know what they have to offer and I still prefer Opera any day. Give it a try and you'll instantly see that it is very different.

Here's a more optimistic article on the new direction for Opera:

http://www.webmonkey.com/2013/02/presto-is-dead-long-live-opera/

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