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Printed Game Manuals - 3/15/2013 12:57:59 AM   
KG Erwin


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These are becoming old-fashioned, so I treasure the ones I DO have from games I've owned for a few years. One of the best is the one I have is from Schwerpunkt's Russo-German War, which included a printed reference card as well as a ring-bound user's guide, both of which serve as valuable references. Additional info is provided within the game itself, including instructions on the scenario editor. Even though the game is from 2001, all of this info greatly enhances the game experience.

As for another favorite, SPWaW, I simply printed out the PDF file game manual and have it bound in a three-ring binder.

All of this comes from the fact that I'm a book-lover, and my house has two book cabinets in it, a large one with six shelves and a smaller one with two shelves, and they are all packed. They occupy a wall on one side of my living room. The overflow is in cardboard boxes in front of the cabinets. I tend to hoard stuff, obviously, and I've collected a lot over the last 40 years.

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RE: Printed Game Manuals - 3/15/2013 2:37:19 AM   
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ORIGINAL: KG Erwin

These are becoming old-fashioned...


KG Erwin,

Not sure if they are old-fashioned. Just hugely expensive to produce. Must admit though, I also have a liking for printed manuals.

Best wishes,
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RE: Printed Game Manuals - 3/15/2013 5:44:06 AM   
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If TOAW3 had printed manual, I'd have ordered it instead download.


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ORIGINAL: shunwick


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ORIGINAL: KG Erwin

These are becoming old-fashioned...


KG Erwin,

Not sure if they are old-fashioned. Just hugely expensive to produce. Must admit though, I also have a liking for printed manuals.

Best wishes,
Steve

To give you an idea about price of printing and distribution, 400 page thick hardcover wargame rulebook of high quality paper and coloured pages cost in here (Finland) 50 €uros. PDF download of that same book cost $15. And to top it off:
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Heck, most laptops weigh less than TacOps

TacOps = Tactical Operations = rulebook I'm talking about

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RE: Printed Game Manuals - 3/16/2013 9:26:37 PM   
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You should get Dominions III Erwin. Huge manual and lots of reference pages. Think it's like 300 pages but don't quote me on that.

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RE: Printed Game Manuals - 3/17/2013 5:08:38 PM   
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To give you an idea about price of printing and distribution, 400 page thick hardcover wargame rulebook of high quality paper and coloured pages cost in here (Finland) 50 €uros. PDF download of that same book cost $15. And to top it off:

Wargames didn't have manuals like that. They were usually softcover, black and white or with 6 colours or so and less than 150 pages long.
Usually the only full colour parts were book cover, map and game catalogue.

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RE: Printed Game Manuals - 3/17/2013 5:41:19 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Perturabo

Wargames didn't have manuals like that. They were usually softcover, black and white or with 6 colours or so and less than 150 pages long.
Usually the only full colour parts were book cover, map and game catalogue.

That's BattleTech Master Rules you're talking about. Totally obsolete now. New basic core rulebook for that game now is Total Warfare with over 300 pages, all coloured. I paid 45 € for that.

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Newest Warhammer 40k rulebook has 435 pages for 60 €

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RE: Printed Game Manuals - 3/17/2013 9:00:43 PM   
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You should get Dominions III Erwin. Huge manual and lots of reference pages. Think it's like 300 pages but don't quote me on that.


294 pages spiral bound and excellent. Game AND manual are great. Probably one of the most bug free games I own, and it is packed with stuff. For anybody that loves RTS fantasy games, this is the top dog in my opinion.

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RE: Printed Game Manuals - 3/17/2013 9:07:05 PM   
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hi there!

i wished for a printed wite manual, too...
i bought the download-version and was happy to get the manual printed at 1buch.de -
sure, it would've been cheaper if i just bought the boxed version...
but after reading the note on 'the hardcopy manual' i was rather happy to print it myself.

books rock! (btw, a 2nd screen to read a pdf, too...)

cheers!
chem!

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RE: Printed Game Manuals - 3/17/2013 10:10:22 PM   
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If it's a game I really like, I will buy its retail boxed version if it contains a printed paper manual. Most of the time I only use a manual for reference anyway and many games (think Civilization, for example) have an ingame reference which suffices. Alt+tabbing to view a .pdf manual usually works, but not always.

But every once in awhile I like to get comfortable somewhere and just read about the new game I've fallen in love with.

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RE: Printed Game Manuals - 3/17/2013 10:10:46 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Matti Kuokkanen

quote:

ORIGINAL: Perturabo

Wargames didn't have manuals like that. They were usually softcover, black and white or with 6 colours or so and less than 150 pages long.
Usually the only full colour parts were book cover, map and game catalogue.

That's BattleTech Master Rules you're talking about. Totally obsolete now. New basic core rulebook for that game now is Total Warfare with over 300 pages, all coloured. I paid 45 € for that.

[edit]
Newest Warhammer 40k rulebook has 435 pages for 60 €

Rules for expensive miniature wargames are a completely different cup for tea than manuals for computer wargames.

Manuals that I have:
War in Middle Earth - 56 page black and white manual booklet , black and white map.
Laser Squad - 20 page black and white manual on high quality paper.
Fire-Brigade - 74 page black and white manual, 24 page scenario booklet, 4 page technical supplement. (though there's also a colour version).
Halls of Montezuma - 104 page black and white and two shades of brown manual with a colour cover, colour mape and colour menu map on high quality paper.
Austerlitz (Peter Turcan) - 24 page black and white manual booklet, colour map on high quality paper.
Armada (Peter Turcan) - 73 page black and white manual booklet with a colour cover and a colour map on high quality paper
War in Russia - 77 page black and white manual, 4 page technical supplement.
Patriot - 62 page training manual and 40 page page operations manual, both black and white and with colour cover, 20 page technical supplement.
UFO: Enemy Unknown - 126 page grayscale manual on high quality paper with colour cover, 12 page black and white technical supplement.
X-Com 3: Apocalypse - 200 page black and white manual.

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