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RE: Sim City 5 - 3/9/2013 9:46:05 PM   
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RE: Sim City - 3/9/2013 10:07:14 PM   
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I don't give three hoots for the "when it's working it's great" argument. You can't just cherry pick what parts of the game you want to review, and the disaster of always on is a part of the experience of the gamer.

BTW, the whole refusing refunds and banning people for demanding them is an unfounded rumour. EA has poured failure onto failure with this fiasco, but they haven't gone that far.


Rumor or not, its being reported by multpile legitimate news services (which can be wrong from time to time).

Even if it isn't true, it sure isn't helping EAs reputation...then again, EAs reputation is already so bad it probably can't get much worse.

And the real problem here all goes back to the always online DRM requirement. Everyone who wants to play has to connect, and they simply did not have the server capacity for the number of people playing. However, that problem will no doubt resolve itself shortly as people quit trying to play and simply get a refund or throw the game in the trash.

Matrix has it right, once I buy a game from here I install it using my serial number and play it, not having to worry about busy servers or server crashes. Single player games should NEVER require a person to play on a company server IMO.


What happened was that one guy threatened to cancel his payment for the game via Origin at his bank. That's an automatic ban both there and on Steam. Then the story ran out of control, and morphed into the EA BANS PEOPLE WHO ASKS FOR REFUNDS rumour.

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RE: Sim City - 3/10/2013 1:32:13 PM   
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Status: offline 		As for reviews of the game, the only game site I trust (The Escapist) has yet to review it, because they've been incapable of playing it enough to review the whole experience. That seems more realistic to me than this "when it works, it's great" garbage.

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RE: Sim City - 3/10/2013 4:19:59 PM   
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As for reviews of the game, the only game site I trust (The Escapist) has yet to review it, because they've been incapable of playing it enough to review the whole experience. That seems more realistic to me than this "when it works, it's great" garbage.



Love that.... The "not able to review" says it all

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RE: Sim City - 3/10/2013 5:07:12 PM   
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RE: Sim City - 3/10/2013 5:20:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		It also tells me to save my money, if they are 'unable to review' it means the game does not work.

In my case it doesn't matter really, I'm going to stand on my principles and not buy a single player game that has always online DRM. That has been my big hang up since it was announced.

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RE: Sim City - 3/10/2013 5:47:48 PM   
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Which is the main reason why I trust them. They actually possess integrity.


I will look at that site since reviews you can trust are becoming a rare thing.

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RE: Sim City - 3/10/2013 10:51:59 PM   
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Which is the main reason why I trust them. They actually possess integrity.


I will look at that site since reviews you can trust are becoming a rare thing.


Metacritic is the first place I look for a game review.

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RE: Sim City - 3/10/2013 11:40:12 PM   
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RE: Sim City - 3/10/2013 11:56:55 PM   
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Oh, and there's no such thing as SimCity 5.

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RE: Sim City - 3/11/2013 12:46:32 AM   
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Status: offline 		One thing I notice that is repeated on all the review sites: "pro" reviews give it moderate to high marks, actual users are rating it extremely low. Some of it is surely anger that they can't actually play a game they payed for, but some if it is legitimate issues.

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RE: Sim City - 3/11/2013 5:53:53 AM   
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"He who pays the most for adverts on reviewing sites gets the best reviews"

Seem to remember someone getting sacked/resigning from Gamespot a few years back over a negative review of a game that had bought a banner advert. Here it is



GameSpot departures,
Jeff Gerstmann was terminated from his position as the Editorial Director of GameSpot on November 28, 2007.[9] Immediately after his termination, rumors began to circulate around the Internet that his dismissal was a result of external pressure from Eidos Interactive, the publisher behind the video game Kane & Lynch: Dead Men. Gerstmann had given the game a negative review[10] while Eidos had Kane & Lynch: Dead Men advertising on the website. Both GameSpot and their parent company CNET Networks stated that his dismissal was unrelated to the review.[10] In what was labelled as the 'GameSpot Exodus' by Joystiq, Alex Navarro, Ryan Davis, Brad Shoemaker and Vinny Caravella all left GameSpot. Davis announced his departure from GameSpot in February 2008, citing Gerstmann's firing as one of his reasons for leaving.[11]

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RE: Sim City 5 - 3/11/2013 12:59:49 PM   
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RE: Sim City - 3/11/2013 1:17:00 PM   
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SimCity 5 now works great and now is problem free. I can see there is a huge lack of understanding on how widespread and how flawlessly the on-line games work.




Simcity would be the sort of game I like to take on the road when I travel for some casual unwinding time.
That pretty much means no or at least spotty connectivity.

Always on DRM/connection is an immediate no no for me for just this reason.


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RE: Sim City - 3/12/2013 10:28:25 AM   
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SimCity 5 now works great and now is problem free. I can see there is a huge lack of understanding on how widespread and how flawlessly the on-line games work.



It's obviously hard to tell with just text, but I'm thinking this was sarcasm.



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RE: Sim City - 3/12/2013 12:31:08 PM   
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http://www.giantbomb.com/forums/simcity-8158/amazon-is-starting-to-remove-negative-reviews-1428080/

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RE: Sim City - 3/12/2013 12:52:56 PM   
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RE: Sim City - 3/12/2013 1:01:26 PM   
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RE: Sim City - 3/12/2013 6:58:10 PM   
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RE: Sim City - 3/13/2013 8:45:55 AM   
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http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2013/03/12/simcity-server-not-necessary/

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RE: Sim City - 3/13/2013 9:11:47 AM   
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RE: Sim City - 3/14/2013 8:36:16 PM   
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Modder proves SimCity can run offline indefinitely

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RE: Sim City - 3/14/2013 9:02:35 PM   
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Status: offline 		There was an article on CNN earlier today looking at this, claiming it was going to soon be a Business Management class example on how badly things can go wrong, pointing at management interference. Interesting enough I can't find that story this afternoon, so believe or not as you will. In any event, having been completly burned by SOE's NGE, there is nothing in my heart but distrust for corporate games. This just adds to the feeling of distrust.

I will say, even with some bumps, I have never had a major problem with a game purchased from Matrix. Game problems, yes. That''s to be expected. But nothing anywhere close tothis kind of scale.

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RE: Sim City - 3/15/2013 3:52:10 AM   
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http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2013/03/08/new-imcity-launch-proves-disastrous/?intcmp=related

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RE: Sim City - 3/15/2013 5:23:59 AM   
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There was an article on CNN earlier today looking at this, claiming it was going to soon be a Business Management class example on how badly things can go wrong, pointing at management interference. Interesting enough I can't find that story this afternoon, so believe or not as you will. In any event, having been completly burned by SOE's NGE, there is nothing in my heart but distrust for corporate games. This just adds to the feeling of distrust.

I will say, even with some bumps, I have never had a major problem with a game purchased from Matrix. Game problems, yes. That''s to be expected. But nothing anywhere close tothis kind of scale.


And the bumps are usually minor. Not to mention many of the titles here have great ongoing support as well.

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RE: Sim City - 3/15/2013 5:30:04 PM   
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RE: Sim City - 3/15/2013 5:49:13 PM   
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I'm not going to buy Sim City 5 as long as the game will be Always Online or until some decent crack will be available.


So now you're looking for some crack?

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RE: Sim City - 3/15/2013 7:48:22 PM   
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I'm not going to buy Sim City 5 as long as the game will be Always Online or until some decent crack will be available.


So now you're looking for some crack?
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RE: Sim City - 3/15/2013 8:33:00 PM   
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RE: Sim City - 3/16/2013 2:36:15 AM   
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Actually he said "decent crack."


Giggity.

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