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Cannot seem to get Soviet bombers to fly ground support - 3/6/2013 3:58:03 PM   
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Situation:

ShaD bases with IL2's assigned to different air armies
Other bases with fighters also assigned to various air armies
Each air army assigned to a different front
Participation set to 9
Range unlimited
Air leaders level 6
Bases are all 4-9 hexes from the combats of units of the respective front
Happens in all different weather
Ground support on

Doctrine settings:

0% ready required to fly
ground support 300%



Bombers never commit
Fighters commit but likely more to intercept German air.

Manually bombing ground units works fine.




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RE: Cannot seem to get Soviet bombers to fly ground sup... - 3/6/2013 4:30:01 PM   
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Not a bug, WAD. The Soviet ground support is hardcoded to provide only minimal support unitil autumn/ winter 1941. Therefore it is better to leave the tactical bombers in the national reserve at the beginning.

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RE: Cannot seem to get Soviet bombers to fly ground sup... - 3/6/2013 4:37:29 PM   
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It is 1943 in my game

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RE: Cannot seem to get Soviet bombers to fly ground sup... - 3/6/2013 5:38:14 PM   
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You can always send a save game to 2by3@2by3games.com. The save should be before the combats. Tell us what attacks you are making that you expect to see aircraft involved in so we can duplicate what you are seeing.

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RE: Cannot seem to get Soviet bombers to fly ground sup... - 3/6/2013 7:51:08 PM   
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Are you sure you have airbases assigned to air army / front combination that is covering that part of the front? Units need to be in the same chain of command on the front level to be succesful.

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RE: Cannot seem to get Soviet bombers to fly ground sup... - 3/7/2013 2:14:05 PM   
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Yes

Command structure is pretty good and should work correctly

Joel:

I emailed a couple saved games to 2by3 yesterday. Would you please confirm receipt?

Thanks

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RE: Cannot seem to get Soviet bombers to fly ground sup... - 3/7/2013 6:21:20 PM   
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Yes, I got them and confirmed that as far as I could tell there was no reason the Soviet bombers weren't flying. There were a lot of airbases seriously overloaded (note the AV support needs), but even so, I'd have expected some to fly. I have sent the saves to Pavel and hopefully he'll be able to shed light on what's going on.

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RE: Cannot seem to get Soviet bombers to fly ground sup... - 3/7/2013 7:50:41 PM   
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In the save provided they started to fly once I set GS to ON ('x' key or GS setting at the bottom of the doctrine screen). Please check your Ground Support settings.

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RE: Cannot seem to get Soviet bombers to fly ground sup... - 3/7/2013 9:04:06 PM   
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Ouch..

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RE: Cannot seem to get Soviet bombers to fly ground sup... - 3/8/2013 2:25:00 AM   
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Sorry but Ground Support has been on the whole time.

Cannonfodder you think both Joel and I missed this?

I was using the latest official version (1.06.19)

I tried with 1.06.27 beta and the problem seems to be solved

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