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Anyone watch the Vikings on HC last night? - 3/4/2013 11:48:37 PM   
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I did and kinda liked it. I had no idea that Vikings came from Sweden. I thought just from Norway . I will have to research this more.

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RE: Anyone watch the Vikings on HC last night? - 3/5/2013 1:43:11 AM   
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I did and kinda liked it. I had no idea that Vikings came from Sweden. I thought just from Norway . I will have to research this more.


Orm is a direct descendant of those evil people. I forgot about it. Will try to watch some other way.

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RE: Anyone watch the Vikings on HC last night? - 3/5/2013 2:21:55 AM   
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Vikings related to or are considered germantic. Denmark ,Sweden and Norway . Later northern France and later England . One fact that gets me is there is a Viking herritage in New Zealand !!. I wonder why Finland is not considered in the group. I never considered them Slavic people. Orm is Finland the odd man out in Scandinavia ?
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I did and kinda liked it. I had no idea that Vikings came from Sweden. I thought just from Norway . I will have to research this more.


Orm is a direct descendant of those evil people. I forgot about it. Will try to watch some other way.



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RE: Anyone watch the Vikings on HC last night? - 3/5/2013 8:20:19 AM   
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Orm the Viking founded a church ( kirk) near where I live.... Ormskirk England.

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RE: Anyone watch the Vikings on HC last night? - 3/5/2013 9:38:16 AM   
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I've got Viking DNA. Rimmer is from Viking most likely stemming from the ones who landed around Formby who would have been the same ones as Orm^^ I expect.

Vikings stem from Norway\Sweden and Denmark. William of Normandy was a Dane viking ancestor I believe.

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RE: Anyone watch the Vikings on HC last night? - 3/5/2013 11:09:43 AM   
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Vikings came from all of the Nordic Countries, if you want to generalise, the Swedes went East, the Norwegians West and South (they even served for the Byzantine King as his bodyguards), and the Danish went mainly to Western Europe and England where they at times ruled (Danelagen). (I said it was a generalization!!)

William the Conqueror had Vikingblood in his vains as he was a descendant of Gange-Rolf (who is either Norwegian or Danish, this is debated, but I ofc chose to believe he was Norwegian ).

More viking based trivia;
-at the end of the Napoleonic Wars, Sweden was given Norway as a prize. At this time Norwegian territories also included Iceland and Greenland. All of Norway was ruled again by Denmark in a Union (Denmark-Norway). The Swedish diplomat arriving to sign the peace treaty however forgot to include Iceland and Greenland in the treaty, and they became Danish as a result.

-contrary to popular belief, the most valuable naval asset for the Vikings was not the longboat, but rather the Knarr, which was a trading vessel.

-contrary to popular belief, the vikings valued trade and peace, and were not the crazed mushroom-high warriors depicted in Hollywood.

-Viking men were almost obsessed with their appearance, and in old temporary English texts, there are several complaints about how the viking men looked so good that they got the English women to leave their husbands to go live with the Vikings.

-The Viking-Era is said to start with the raid of the Lindisfarne-Monestary in 793 AD, and is often said to end with the failed attempt to seize power in England in 1066.


Terje (which is a rewrite of the older Tarjei, which is a rewrite of the even older Torgeir, which when split becomes Tor and Geir. Tor ofc is the Norse God amongst other assosiated with thunder, and Geir comes from the norse word Atgeir, meaning Spear)

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RE: Anyone watch the Vikings on HC last night? - 3/5/2013 5:40:53 PM   
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I've got Viking DNA. Rimmer is from Viking most likely stemming from the ones who landed around Formby who would have been the same ones as Orm^^ I expect.

Vikings stem from Norway\Sweden and Denmark. William of Normandy was a Dane viking ancestor I believe.
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Yep the Normans were Vikings - Norsemen - men from the north.

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RE: Anyone watch the Vikings on HC last night? - 3/5/2013 11:45:57 PM   
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So the English are of german descent? I'm starting to,like you more. My family is a mix of every thing from African Americans to Asian Americans with a few Cherokee Indians. I am proud of my family cultural mix and I think this is typical of American culture today. And while the Saxons where of German decent so where the Normans which tells me it's no big deal. So the the Normans mixed with with Saxons to create a new bread of people who are now now called the English. Not sure about the welsh but I suspect the were breed into the mix also. One thing is for sure the Scott's and Irish were not. I've always respected the Scott's and Irish for fighting for there independence and while the scots gave up theirs for a crown in England Ireland has always resisted. While researching the Finns I've found out that they are a mix of both Slavic and some German descent which truly makes them the odd man out in Scandinavia .
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I've got Viking DNA. Rimmer is from Viking most likely stemming from the ones who landed around Formby who would have been the same ones as Orm^^ I expect.

Vikings stem from Norway\Sweden and Denmark. William of Normandy was a Dane viking ancestor I believe.
warspite1

Yep the Normans were Vikings - Norsemen - men from the north.



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RE: Anyone watch the Vikings on HC last night? - 3/6/2013 12:04:29 AM   
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Rus was the name of an early Viking chieftain and where we get Russia from.

As far as the series goes I'm only about 50% pleased so far. It does show Viking life at the time, which is good. But I have never read anything in history books about Ragnar's early life.

Some claim that the Ragnar that tried to take Paris and the one that was killed in England are the same but a lot of historians don't buy into it.

Ragnar's death in England is supposed to be the reason " The Great Heathen Army " attacked England and was led by his sons in revenge.

I am waiting for the next episode though , to see what happens to " Hairy Breeches ".


Yes, the Angles and Jutes came from Denmark/northern Germany.

The Vikings tried to capture Constantinople at least twice. Harold Hadrada ( hard council, Stamford bridge ) was in the Emperor's northmen guard called the Varangarians.

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RE: Anyone watch the Vikings on HC last night? - 3/6/2013 12:25:35 AM   
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Vikings related to or are considered germantic. Denmark ,Sweden and Norway . Later northern France and later England . One fact that gets me is there is a Viking herritage in New Zealand !!. I wonder why Finland is not considered in the group ...


Their origins and language is Hungarian, although the latter has evolved considerably.


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RE: Anyone watch the Vikings on HC last night? - 3/6/2013 12:30:30 AM   
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Yes exactly . Their language is bits and pieces of several different ethnic groups. I've read so far the the Finnish language is the most unique . But hay when you have only 5.3 million people in your country.......what impresses me more that in 1939 with a population of 3.9 million they fought a nation with more than 180 million people a won for awhile.
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Vikings related to or are considered germantic. Denmark ,Sweden and Norway . Later northern France and later England . One fact that gets me is there is a Viking herritage in New Zealand !!. I wonder why Finland is not considered in the group ...


Their origins and language is Hungarian, although the latter has evolved considerably.




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RE: Anyone watch the Vikings on HC last night? - 3/6/2013 1:00:25 AM   
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When you say Hungarian are you talking the Magyar language or an earlier one?

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RE: Anyone watch the Vikings on HC last night? - 3/6/2013 1:19:50 AM   
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Not just the Magyar but German Sweden Latavion Estonian and Russian . It is once of the most complex languages.
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When you say Hungarian are you talking the Magyar language or an earlier one?



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RE: Anyone watch the Vikings on HC last night? - 3/6/2013 4:17:37 AM   
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Rus was the name of an early Viking chieftain and where we get Russia from.
I think Rus was what the Slavs called the Vikings. As Rus meant to row or those that rowed.

In the first episode the Swedes raided east to Finland or the Baltic coast lands.

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RE: Anyone watch the Vikings on HC last night? - 3/6/2013 6:40:42 AM   
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So the English are of german descent?
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The clue is in the title...Anglo-Saxon!!

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RE: Anyone watch the Vikings on HC last night? - 3/6/2013 7:33:49 AM   
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[Sorry double post

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RE: Anyone watch the Vikings on HC last night? - 3/6/2013 7:37:21 AM   
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Rus was the name of an early Viking chieftain and where we get Russia from.
I think Rus was what the Slavs called the Vikings. As Rus meant to row or those that rowed.

In the first episode the Swedes raided east to Finland or the Baltic coast lands.


Correct..and Russia is named after them..They traveled all the way to Constantinople through Russia.

Anyway is this series similar to Spartacus..loads of gore and sex? If so I will download it;)

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RE: Anyone watch the Vikings on HC last night? - 3/6/2013 12:45:03 PM   
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Anyway is this series similar to Spartacus..loads of gore and sex? If so I will download it;)
I don't know about sex (its the HC afterall), but already in the first episode Ragnar's brother is making advances on Ragnar's wife. So there's bound to be trouble.

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RE: Anyone watch the Vikings on HC last night? - 3/6/2013 6:20:26 PM   
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When you say Hungarian are you talking the Magyar language or an earlier one?


Probably Proto-Uralic.

http://geography.about.com/od/culturalgeography/a/Hungarian-And-Finnish.htm



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RE: Anyone watch the Vikings on HC last night? - 3/6/2013 9:53:37 PM   
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That is science for you.

In the 1970s I was taught that Finnish had no connection to any other language in Europe and they didn't know where it came from, much like the Basque language.

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RE: Anyone watch the Vikings on HC last night? - 3/6/2013 11:45:17 PM   
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Watched, it was ok …… if the subject interests you BBC “blood of the Vikings” is worth a watch

http://youtu.be/uXpqgmBS6DM

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RE: Anyone watch the Vikings on HC last night? - 3/7/2013 1:39:02 AM   
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There was a really good Viking series by the same lad who does Coast..Can't remember his name now. Was a pretty good program.

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RE: Anyone watch the Vikings on HC last night? - 3/7/2013 5:49:04 AM   
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Try here..... Recommend the series.

http://youtu.be/EhYVHlEnZPU

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RE: Anyone watch the Vikings on HC last night? - 3/7/2013 1:46:16 PM   
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Interesting discussion, reminds me of a personal issue.

Maternal antecedants are Ukrainian and grandfather, 3 of 4 uncles, and an aunt had fair skin, blonde to reddish blonde hair and large frames. Family often joked about Viking heritage and I guess there were enough Vikings to go around near Kiev to make that an interesting speculation.

But, guessing origins from appearances is probamatical, especially over centuries.

Agree that Finns should not be included in the Norse, Swede, Dane club. Their language (amongst other issues) sets them apart. Have always read that it has something in common with Magyar tongue and maybe someother further East. Maybe not from Indo-European, either. A lot of migrations led to enclaves rather than wide-spread cultural/ethnic groups.

Wonder about Latvians, Estonians, and Lithuanians... Norse, Finnish, or ? Anyone help here?

As far as the HC series goes, nice eye candy details, some realistic plot elements (the Earl & the Karls, etc.) but wasting time with family issues (outside of teaching the son what's up.) All in all, good show.

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RE: Anyone watch the Vikings on HC last night? - 3/7/2013 6:56:52 PM   
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Try here..... Recommend the series.

http://youtu.be/EhYVHlEnZPU



Thats the one;)

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RE: Anyone watch the Vikings on HC last night? - 3/7/2013 7:11:55 PM   
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At least they included one (or was there more?) Scandinavian actor in the cast. It seems as if the Skaarsgård clan of actors has managed to send a third man to Hollywood.

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RE: Anyone watch the Vikings on HC last night? - 4/2/2013 12:52:35 AM   
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The 4th episode was awesome

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RE: Anyone watch the Vikings on HC last night? - 4/3/2013 8:43:38 PM   
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Oh, And George Washington was suppose to have Viking roots. His name may have been anglicized from Vossing-son. Voss being a Norwegian fjord.

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