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Baseball Talk - 2/18/2013 12:57:43 AM   
KG Erwin


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You know that spring is just around the corner when spring training begins. I'm a Pirates fan, and I believe that the time has come from them to break out of their 20-year losing season streak. They have the ingredients in place to have a good season, and prevent the breakdowns that caused late-season collapses in the past two years.

So, who do you like and how is your team's prospects for this year?

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RE: Baseball Talk - 2/18/2013 1:19:42 AM   
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The twins. Been a fan slice Kirby Pucket

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RE: Baseball Talk - 2/18/2013 1:51:02 AM   
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I liked Ole Kirb.
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RE: Baseball Talk - 2/18/2013 1:53:52 AM   
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I kind off like the Rangers. They can be in the race again if they can make it to post season.
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I liked Ole Kirb.
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The twins. Been a fan slice Kirby Pucket





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RE: Baseball Talk - 2/18/2013 2:27:32 AM   
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Well, I have been a luckless fan of the Kansas City Royals for 30 years. They have a young, hard playing team, with a strong bullpen. But, Cowtown had it's hopes dashed last year, and the year before and the year before...for 27 years now.

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RE: Baseball Talk - 2/18/2013 2:29:58 AM   
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Like the twins they don't have the payroll ...
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Well, I have been a luckless fan of the Kansas City Royals for 30 years. They have a young, hard playing team, with a strong bullpen. But, Cowtown had it's hopes dashed last year, and the year before and the year before...for 27 years now.



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RE: Baseball Talk - 2/18/2013 2:30:08 AM   
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Well, I have been a luckless fan of the Kansas City Royals for 30 years. They have a young, hard playing team, with a strong bullpen. But, Cowtown had it's hopes dashed last year, and the year before and the year before...for 27 years now.


I feel your pain. I keep my expectations of the Royals low.

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RE: Baseball Talk - 2/18/2013 2:33:09 AM   
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Mariners fan. A 500 record and being more competitive would be a step forward. Having something to watch when Felix isn't pitching. Offense, offense, offense, need more offense the last few years have been tough to watch.

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RE: Baseball Talk - 2/18/2013 3:28:52 AM   
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Interesting that I haven't heard from either Giants or the "Evil Empire" Yankees' fans. Which is fine with me, as I find both of them insufferable. Of course, the worst are Reds' and Cardinals' fans, since they are both in the Pirates' division.

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RE: Baseball Talk - 2/18/2013 3:29:03 AM   
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Oakland A's.

Followed them for the last 20 years. I really enjoyed the end of their year last year. Great pitching talent / scouting. Finally got some bats last year and look out!

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RE: Baseball Talk - 2/18/2013 4:09:13 AM   
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Dodgers fan for life. Lets see if money can buy happiness and a championship.

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RE: Baseball Talk - 2/18/2013 1:54:28 PM   
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Brewer fan here.

What's a treat is that I'm about 9 miles from their single A team, the Wisconsin Timber Rattlers.  When one of the Brewers does a rehab game after an injury, it's neat to watch them up here.

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RE: Baseball Talk - 2/18/2013 2:40:49 PM   
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Like the twins they don't have the payroll ...
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Well, I have been a luckless fan of the Kansas City Royals for 30 years. They have a young, hard playing team, with a strong bullpen. But, Cowtown had it's hopes dashed last year, and the year before and the year before...for 27 years now.




No, they need a much bigger bucket of cash rogo. I might send them some of my Billions or Reich-marks.

BAL, I to keep my expectations as low as possible. But still...

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RE: Baseball Talk - 2/18/2013 2:52:06 PM   
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AL Astros. Its a whole new world for baseball down here. Gonna be a long season for us so suffering is common here in Houston as in KC and Minneapolis!

Whats this DH-thingy I've been hearing about?

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RE: Baseball Talk - 2/18/2013 3:05:15 PM   
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AL Astros. Its a whole new world for baseball down here. Gonna be a long season for us so suffering is common here in Houston as in KC and Minneapolis!

Whats this DH-thingy I've been hearing about?

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RE: Baseball Talk - 2/19/2013 8:52:06 AM


I personally despise the "DH-thingy". 40 years of suffrage under the "DH-thingy" still does not make it less evil.

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RE: Baseball Talk - 2/18/2013 3:27:44 PM   
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dodger fan since a baby.  i can remember sitting in the LF pavilion in early 70's, meeting the players before the game as they signed baseball stickers under the pavilion. we would hangout in the bullpen area on a regular basis.

happy magic is on the new group but not happy with all that money getting tossed around. i guess i'm a traditionalist and like to see my team build it not buy it.
i gave up on baseball for a few years in the early 90's but than along came piazza and karros and renewed my interest in '96. but the killer was manny getting busted while in LA.  really lost interest in it.

giants will be tough to overcome as they are so solid.

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RE: Baseball Talk - 2/18/2013 5:03:25 PM   
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I can remember going to a Oakland "A"s game in the early 70s and paying two bucks for bleacher seats and watching a double headed.  First game, Mr. R. Fingers was pitching.  Great time. 

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RE: Baseball Talk - 2/18/2013 5:28:54 PM   
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Was never that interested in baseball until the '63 World Series between Yankees and Dodgers. I had to pick a team to root for, so I picked the Dodgers.

Koufax, Drysdale, Wills, Gilliam, Roseboro, Tommy Davis and the boys got it done in 4 games and I've been a Dodgers fan ever since. I'm not as fanatical as I was, but I still like for them to win.



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RE: Baseball Talk - 2/18/2013 8:31:08 PM   
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Carl Furillo! One of my favorite players when I was growing up in New York City as a Brooklyn Dodgers fan. They moved & broke my heart when I was 17. I am no longer a Dodger fan. Mets & Diamondbacks.

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RE: Baseball Talk - 2/18/2013 9:21:58 PM   
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Carl Furillo! One of my favorite players when I was growing up in New York City as a Brooklyn Dodgers fan. They moved & broke my heart when I was 17. I am no longer a Dodger fan. Mets & Diamondbacks.


Furillo (The Reading Rifle) was my favorite of all the Boys of Summer. I really wish I'd been around when they were in Brooklyn. That era of baseball is my favorite. It must have been amazing to see that team in that ballpark. I envy you for that.

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RE: Baseball Talk - 2/19/2013 12:48:54 AM   
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The Baltimore Orioles. Gonna be tough this year but last year was so cool after 15 years of losing.

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RE: Baseball Talk - 2/19/2013 1:43:49 AM   
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The Milwaukee Braves (great pitching and Hank Aaron), Kansas City Athletics (The NY Yankees farm team), and Washington Senators (seem to always finish in last place.)

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RE: Baseball Talk - 2/19/2013 2:04:07 AM   
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Truth is I have really grown fond of disliking baseball . Each team should have the same amount of money to pay players like football. Baseball players are the most overrated and overpaid athletes in the world. At this point I feel MMA fighters have more skill than 90% of most baseball players.

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RE: Baseball Talk - 2/19/2013 3:58:39 AM   
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Mets fan, hoping for 80 wins this year. As for Yankee fans... I'll never forget 2004 when the Red Sox beat the Yankers in the playoffs and within weeks half the Yankers in Queens were wearing BoSox caps

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RE: Baseball Talk - 2/19/2013 10:05:11 AM   
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Truth is I have really grown fond of disliking baseball . Each team should have the same amount of money to pay players like football. Baseball players are the most overrated and overpaid athletes in the world. At this point I feel MMA fighters have more skill than 90% of most baseball players.


<sigh> Another Socialist ^ baseball fan. I certainly don't like teams having to have the same amount of money and certainly don't like salary caps. That's what made baseball what it is today is the franchises like the Yankess, Boston, St. Lous, San Fancisco, LA Dodgers just to name a few dominating the league and getting some of the best players you ever saw on the "same" team. Football did it for revenue's sake and so, all the crybaby fans of every team might get a chance to see them in the playoffs one day an even the Super Bowl and those owners get their fair share of the profits. But, that's sooooooo socialistic I can't stand it and I hardly watch football anymore.

I love baseball but it really is turning into too much of a business as well instead of the great sport it once was. Players shooting up the PEDS, taking steroids anything to make them more powerful than they should be for the money instead of for the love of the game. I've watched it change sooooooo much since the early 60's.

My favorite team of all time The 75' Reds.

I'll watch just about any game because I just love the sport and I love my beer and krautdogs while watching.

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RE: Baseball Talk - 2/19/2013 3:20:46 PM   
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Truth is I have really grown fond of disliking baseball . Each team should have the same amount of money to pay players like football. Baseball players are the most overrated and overpaid athletes in the world. At this point I feel MMA fighters have more skill than 90% of most baseball players.


<sigh> Another Socialist ^ baseball fan. I certainly don't like teams having to have the same amount of money and certainly don't like salary caps. That's what made baseball what it is today is the franchises like the Yankess, Boston, St. Lous, San Fancisco, LA Dodgers just to name a few dominating the league and getting some of the best players you ever saw on the "same" team. Football did it for revenue's sake and so, all the crybaby fans of every team might get a chance to see them in the playoffs one day an even the Super Bowl and those owners get their fair share of the profits. But, that's sooooooo socialistic I can't stand it and I hardly watch football anymore.

I love baseball but it really is turning into too much of a business as well instead of the great sport it once was. Players shooting up the PEDS, taking steroids anything to make them more powerful than they should be for the money instead of for the love of the game. I've watched it change sooooooo much since the early 60's.

My favorite team of all time The 75' Reds.

I'll watch just about any game because I just love the sport and I love my beer and krautdogs while watching.


Just like so much of American society we must, for the children, make everything and everyone equal. Lord when will this nonsense stop. When my children were in their young some of the sports teams they played on awarded everyone a trophy or ribbon, score was not kept. My young brats quickly grew bored and disinterested, though almost all the children surreptitiously kept score. One basketball team my daughter played on had a rule requiring players who scored "an unbalanced number of points"(I kid you not) be benched for three-fourths of the game in order to bring "parity to opposing teams and players", my daughter played just a few games before quitting in disgust.

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RE: Baseball Talk - 2/19/2013 4:31:14 PM   
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Another Dodgers fan here. A lot of guys on the downside of their careers on that roster, but still anything less than a world series appearance will be a disappointment.

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RE: Baseball Talk - 2/19/2013 8:00:02 PM   
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Even professional wrestling regulates drug tests why can't MLB? While baseball was once "Americans game" I do see it declining in popularity with kids and adults. Remember when a player stayed with a team for years and years. This is what I miss most about professional sports and it is a huge reason I love college sports today. Not a socialist but the whole Berry Bonds scandal really turned me off MLB. You know that just about every major player uses PEDs.
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Truth is I have really grown fond of disliking baseball . Each team should have the same amount of money to pay players like football. Baseball players are the most overrated and overpaid athletes in the world. At this point I feel MMA fighters have more skill than 90% of most baseball players.


<sigh> Another Socialist ^ baseball fan. I certainly don't like teams having to have the same amount of money and certainly don't like salary caps. That's what made baseball what it is today is the franchises like the Yankess, Boston, St. Lous, San Fancisco, LA Dodgers just to name a few dominating the league and getting some of the best players you ever saw on the "same" team. Football did it for revenue's sake and so, all the crybaby fans of every team might get a chance to see them in the playoffs one day an even the Super Bowl and those owners get their fair share of the profits. But, that's sooooooo socialistic I can't stand it and I hardly watch football anymore.

I love baseball but it really is turning into too much of a business as well instead of the great sport it once was. Players shooting up the PEDS, taking steroids anything to make them more powerful than they should be for the money instead of for the love of the game. I've watched it change sooooooo much since the early 60's.

My favorite team of all time The 75' Reds.

I'll watch just about any game because I just love the sport and I love my beer and krautdogs while watching.



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RE: Baseball Talk - 2/19/2013 8:41:26 PM   
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it is a huge reason I love college sports today.


How is this a rationale to preferentially follow college sports? In college sports, you're guaranteed to have turnover of the entire body of the team in 4 years. 100%. OK, maybe a few guys get redshirted, but you get the idea. Plus, most freshmen don't start with regularity. Sophomores and Juniors are really where it's at for most of the College sports. Thereafter, they're focusing on 'going pro' and getting the big payday, so their reliability in their senior years wanes.

At least with the professional teams, there's a chance that marquis players will be with the same team for a prolonged period of time. Much depends on management, of course. I'd say that the popularity of the pros is because you *can* follow some of the players on 'your' team for a prolonged period.

Plus, college teams are competing within the NCAA. The National Socialist party's got nuthin' on the NCAA. So much so that NCAA runs all the fun out of events by their insane PC quest for justice and correctedness. So many of the best teams in the sport 'don't exist' for years at a time or have their history voided when it suits NCAA's retrospective-obsessed whitewashing of history. Nope, I'll take my lumps with MLB or the NFL over the zealots at NCAA, thanks.

In any case, this conversation (pro versus college sports) is a little off the OP mark for the thread, rogo727. You want to talk socialism in baseball or national socialism in NCAA, that's well and good for another thread. The OP was merely starting a thread on the start of baseball season. Light hearted! Go home team!

I'll participate in your other thread if you like, but maybe we can move the 'heavy' stuff out of here?

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RE: Baseball Talk - 2/20/2013 6:31:33 AM   
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I meant the pay for professional athletes and its all about the money. That's why I love college sports . Your rambling statement above is of course your opinion not shared by most college fans. I do understand your non interest in college sports being from Minnesota, that would be tough year after year with such disappointment . But your right way off topic here.

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