Editor: How to unload units on sea-transports?

[Erik2]

For testing purposes I gave the SFT destroyer unit a really large cargo capacity.

1) First I used the load button to load all 5 land units in the top part of the screenshot.
There appears to be no max number of SFTs allowed as long as you have cargo capacity left.

2) In the middle screenshot the unload button is inactive and the land units seem to have disappeared.

3) The bottom screenshot show one of the land units in the His screen. Note that the loaction is (-1,-1), ie outside the map.

So, how do I unload the units?

Thanks
Erik

[ernieschwitz]

Have you tried starting the turn, and seeing if the button still is inactive? It may be that the editor is just simply not wired to unload stuff... while the game is... if that makes any sense.

And what you are seeing about location (-1,-1) might simply be how the game handles sea transport units...

[Zaratoughda]

In ATG... you can't unload a unit in the same turn that you load it... UNLESS you are in or move to a port.

Possible FWTP works the same way.

[marcpennington]

ORIGINAL: Zaratoughda

In ATG... you can't unload a unit in the same turn that you load it... UNLESS you are in or move to a port.

Possible FWTP works the same way.

That is indeed correct. I've been playing around in Case Blue to try and do a German landing from the Kerch peninsula into the Kuban, and have reached the conclusion that, since one has to move the barges next to the landing zone, then wait a turn to land them, that such a move isn't really a good idea... Especially as one can only start getting supply when one takes a port, and the defender essentially has one turn to reinforce any ports before one even lands.

[Erik2]

I can understand that you need to be in/next to a port to unload in the game itself.
But having the same restrictions in the editor means the scenario designer cannot undo loading the units. If you saved the scenario you're basically screwed.

Also, there is no indication that the sea transports have loaded any units. So you need to keep track of this outside the editor...
I think these issues should be fixed in the upcoming simple editor.

[Vic]

Hi there,

Sorry for your troubles, i never thought of creating a scenario with loaded units at start my self, hence the problem.

I have uploaded a special new beta build for you v1.51e:
http://www.vrdesigns.nl/WarsawToParis151e.zip

It should fix your problem.

Dont hesitate to notify me in the future. Some things are easily fixed and I like to help any scenario creators.

By the way when you distribute you might want to switch on NoAIAdvice in general settings so players cannot accidently turn the AI on.

The simple editor is something thats not that simple though... but I am working on it. It could take quite some time though before a DC game will see its inclusion.

Best,
Vic

[Erik2]

Hi Vic

Most scenarios with amphibious invasion would probably need loaded units at start.
You would not want to play a Torch scenario where you had to load all Allied units in the US/Britain and move them manualle to the North African coast...

Thanks for the special beta, really appreciates it.
This fixes the 'invisible' loaded units and they can debark.
Edit: In the editor you need to allow loaded units to disembark on a sea hex so you can put them in the same hex as the seatransport.
And it looks very nice as well [:)]

But when I try to test-run the scenario, it crashes with an unhandled exception whenever I click on a sea-transport with loaded units.
Erik

[Vic]

@erik,

maybe it is the HQs on the transports that causes the bug?

anyway i'll need your scenario file to catch the bug.

Please bear with me and help me make the scenario editor capable of what you are trying to do.

send your files too: vic@xs4all.nl

i'll then try to get a new beta build asap to you so you can continue again.

sorry for the hassle.

best,
Vic

[ernieschwitz]

I´m just glad for the support i get in situations like these, Vic, I for one am grateful

[Erik2]

Hi Vic

You got mail.

I'll second ernieschwitz, great support.

Erik