Matrix Games

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ORIGINAL: crsutton

Even though FB and fighters will drop their load and fight back, they are at a distinct disadvantage if bounced by fighters. I would recommend that you escort them. Basically, I do not use any plane to attack at low level unless I know that it is a unit without decent AA assets. Japanese tanks for instance. But any base with decent AA or a big stack of infantry will just shoot any low level attackers to bits and it is not worth the loss. I did some testing and found that strafing is not really effective in low level attacks, it is actually the bomb that does the damage. Further testing showed me that you lose very little by bombing at medium altititude vs low level.

I am playing scen 2 and just don't have the chance to use fighters as bombers much. Just too many Jap fighters about. But once again. Any low level use and they tend to just get shot up by AA. It is a pity because Allied late war fighters carry massive bomb loads. I have used them from 7k as level bombers and those that carry twin 1,000 pound bombs can be effective but lesser bombs droped by fighters at that alt just don't do it.

Now that I am getting the upper hand at sea I am training my fighters up to about 50 low nav bombing skill. A corsair carries a bigger bomb load than a helldiver, so why not.

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ORIGINAL: Chris H

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ORIGINAL: crsutton

Even though FB and fighters will drop their load and fight back, they are at a distinct disadvantage if bounced by fighters. I would recommend that you escort them. Basically, I do not use any plane to attack at low level unless I know that it is a unit without decent AA assets. Japanese tanks for instance. But any base with decent AA or a big stack of infantry will just shoot any low level attackers to bits and it is not worth the loss. I did some testing and found that strafing is not really effective in low level attacks, it is actually the bomb that does the damage. Further testing showed me that you lose very little by bombing at medium altititude vs low level.

I am playing scen 2 and just don't have the chance to use fighters as bombers much. Just too many Jap fighters about. But once again. Any low level use and they tend to just get shot up by AA. It is a pity because Allied late war fighters carry massive bomb loads. I have used them from 7k as level bombers and those that carry twin 1,000 pound bombs can be effective but lesser bombs droped by fighters at that alt just don't do it.

Now that I am getting the upper hand at sea I am training my fighters up to about 50 low nav bombing skill. A corsair carries a bigger bomb load than a helldiver, so why not.

One problem is that fighters set to sweep will often drop down and strafe and they is no way to prevent this.

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Chris H
One problem is that fighters set to sweep will often drop down and strafe and they is no way to prevent this.


Castor Troy
Funnily enough, I have never had this happen even once in AE since release. You sure you don't have your settings wrong? My fighters sweep and sweep and sweep and CAP or no CAP, they never drop down to strafe the airfield.

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ORIGINAL: Cannonfodder

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Chris H
One problem is that fighters set to sweep will often drop down and strafe and they is no way to prevent this.


Castor Troy
Funnily enough, I have never had this happen even once in AE since release. You sure you don't have your settings wrong? My fighters sweep and sweep and sweep and CAP or no CAP, they never drop down to strafe the airfield.

Aren't you talking about GG Eagle day to bombing the Reich? It happens in that game, never seen it happen in AE.

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ORIGINAL: castor troy

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ORIGINAL: Chris H

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ORIGINAL: crsutton

Even though FB and fighters will drop their load and fight back, they are at a distinct disadvantage if bounced by fighters. I would recommend that you escort them. Basically, I do not use any plane to attack at low level unless I know that it is a unit without decent AA assets. Japanese tanks for instance. But any base with decent AA or a big stack of infantry will just shoot any low level attackers to bits and it is not worth the loss. I did some testing and found that strafing is not really effective in low level attacks, it is actually the bomb that does the damage. Further testing showed me that you lose very little by bombing at medium altititude vs low level.

I am playing scen 2 and just don't have the chance to use fighters as bombers much. Just too many Jap fighters about. But once again. Any low level use and they tend to just get shot up by AA. It is a pity because Allied late war fighters carry massive bomb loads. I have used them from 7k as level bombers and those that carry twin 1,000 pound bombs can be effective but lesser bombs droped by fighters at that alt just don't do it.

Now that I am getting the upper hand at sea I am training my fighters up to about 50 low nav bombing skill. A corsair carries a bigger bomb load than a helldiver, so why not.

One problem is that fighters set to sweep will often drop down and strafe and they is no way to prevent this.

Funnily enough, I have never had this happen even once in AE since release. You sure you don't have your settings wrong? My fighters sweep and sweep and sweep and CAP or no CAP, they never drop down to strafe the airfield.

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ORIGINAL: Cannonfodder

Ah, yes if you set sweeps to 100ft the fighters will strafe. But they don't "drop down" as they come in low and egress low.

Tried it at the start of my game vs Arnhem but did not like it (limited effect, high risk) and have never used it again.

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ORIGINAL: crsutton

Even though FB and fighters will drop their load and fight back, they are at a distinct disadvantage if bounced by fighters. I would recommend that you escort them. Basically, I do not use any plane to attack at low level unless I know that it is a unit without decent AA assets. Japanese tanks for instance. But any base with decent AA or a big stack of infantry will just shoot any low level attackers to bits and it is not worth the loss. I did some testing and found that strafing is not really effective in low level attacks, it is actually the bomb that does the damage. Further testing showed me that you lose very little by bombing at medium altititude vs low level.

I am playing scen 2 and just don't have the chance to use fighters as bombers much. Just too many Jap fighters about. But once again. Any low level use and they tend to just get shot up by AA. It is a pity because Allied late war fighters carry massive bomb loads. I have used them from 7k as level bombers and those that carry twin 1,000 pound bombs can be effective but lesser bombs droped by fighters at that alt just don't do it.

Now that I am getting the upper hand at sea I am training my fighters up to about 50 low nav bombing skill. A corsair carries a bigger bomb load than a helldiver, so why not.

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I have used them from 7k as level bombers and those that carry twin 1,000 pound bombs can be effective but lesser bombs droped by fighters at that alt just don't do it.

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ORIGINAL: jmalter

hmm,
don't planes flying at LowN/LowG altitude carry their reduced-load ordnance, unless they're attack-bombers?

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hmm,
don't planes flying at LowN/LowG altitude carry their reduced-load ordnance, unless they're attack-bombers?