ORIGINAL: Punk Reaper
The series the Tudors was fiction..... Bad fiction, unfortunately most people seem to take their history from crap tv shows and Hollywood... Yeh I'm looking at you Mel Gibson!
+1. Braveheart being the most obvious pack of nonsense.
It should have been called BraveFart, as the film was just a load of hot air.
Back to Richard. Richard has been treated badly by history, and his vile murderer and usurper Henry Tudor had a very shaky claim to the the throne through his father, John of Gaunt.
Richard was a brave and noble King, who died as he had lived....valiantly.
Let us hope he is given a State Funeral and that history is re-adjusted back to fact and not the fairytale nonsense of Shakespeare's play, which I loathe.
Richards last reputed words on this earth were 'Traitors, Traitors, Traitors'!! before succumbing to the fatal blow. The desperation and betrayal of those words echo down the centuries.
Here was one of our warrior kings who almost got to the coward Henry Tudor personally, fighting his way through his escort, killing his standard bearer before being unhorsed, and eventually cut down.
Det In Requiescant In Pace
I find all this fascinating - not least that there seems to me to be so many people who have a real hard-on for the idea that Richard III was so badly wronged.
I understand from the TV program that many members of the Richard III society were adamant (before the skeleton was found) that Richard III did not have a deformity of the spine and that that too was a Tudor myth.
As for me I have no idea, and certainly the fact that Richard's body has been found does not change anything at this stage, but I would love to know more about this now.
One thing I do know - he was our King and Head of State and he deserves a state funeral.
I thought you sir, of all people, would be 'up' on this tumultuous part of our history!!!!
The last 'English' King to sit on the throne of England!!!
No, I'm afraid that was old mother warspite's bag - there was nothing she couldn't tell you about the English Royal Family... Boy at times like this it makes me realise how much I miss her
I get my love of history from her, but I must confess I do like a few more battleships, tanks and s*** in my history lessons than what the Plantagenents / Tudors could provide
Surely Warspite, the thought of all those heavily armoured knights thundering towards the enemy in full armour, their pennants streaming in the wind, the thought of man against man in some horrendous swirling mass of hacking, slashing and gouging in a sea of mud and blood, as the valiant efforts of one knight succumb to another,... must excite the senses sir??
It must get your blood up.....just a little?
Well now you describe it like that I'm quite turned on
Maybe this Richard III stuff will help me get more interested, but at the moment, warfare - proper warfare - starts with the Napoleonic era and ends at Nagasaki (with special allowance for Korea and the Falklands).
22nd November 1944 - The British Pacific Fleet is born (temporary avatar changes to commemorate the ships and aircraft). HM Ships Formidable, Illustrious, Victorious