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Reputation Management - 1/25/2013 5:48:56 AM   

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Boy did I blow it.

The dhayut got all squirly on my bottom flank. They sent a fleet to my system on a clear attack run. Tried to get troops down. I obliterated their fleet defensively. I sent two warnings: stop attacking, remove ships. No and no to both.

Ok, How about a counter attack. I invaded a planet of theirs. Oops, didn't declare war. My reputation is now diabolical. My fastest friend, another aggressive bug race, had a +60 favourability... now its -50 because of the -110 rep hit.

How do I maintain a good reputation against a CLEAR violator? Is it better to spontaneously declare war? Generally I thought declaring war made ME the aggressor. I'm missing something here.

Incidentally, after smoking two of their fleets and taking a minor world, they sue'd for peace: i said sure, if you become my subjugated dominion.


Now one week later they're begging for release and my advisors are suggesting I do so. Whats the point of subjugation again?
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RE: Reputation Management - 1/25/2013 8:28:10 AM   

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It would be interesting to know the mechanics, what are the consequences, etc.


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RE: Reputation Management - 1/25/2013 1:09:20 PM   

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It seem logical.You act like a Dhayut by invading worlds with no DOW and you get a bad rep.

I think the mechanic is too forgiving as it stands.You can bombard many colonies to dust and your reputation is hardly damaged and recovers pretty fast.It cetainly needs tweaking to make the new ground combat relavent in the next expansion.Bombarding empires back to the stone age is very easy.

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RE: Reputation Management - 1/25/2013 5:36:23 PM   


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I think subjugation works correctly only if you're stronger than the subjugated dominion in every way, but I could be wrong

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RE: Reputation Management - 1/25/2013 8:18:30 PM   

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That just recently happened to me. I think if you get attacked then it should just be a formality to DOW on your attacker. But yes, it seems that you should DOW them before you counter-attack them. Also take out some pirates to increase your rep.

The whole subjugation was a PITA. Initially they had little money so didn't get much from them (suppose to get 10%) and after a while of them crying I released them, they just built back up and attacked me again. Ha! Ended up with a reputation of diabolical. Since my rep was already so bad, I just went with it and wiped them out. Watch out for the AG as you will start to have encounters with them due to your rep.


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RE: Reputation Management - 1/26/2013 1:06:35 AM   
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I think a lot of the reputation part of the game needs to be reworked as it doesn't really make much sense. It seems like you can get away with a lot of insanely capricious behavior just so long as you use the legal fig leaf of declaring war first as a precaution. If I were President and decided to declare war on Canada totally on a whim, like say because I'm angry about the NHL lockout or because I think Molson tastes like piss water, even most countries that are traditional US allies would think I was completely nuts and would put a lot of distance between themselves & the US if not come to the actual aid of the victimized Canucks. But instead here's what happened when I declared war on Empire 1, a protectorate of mine for no reason whatsoever:

Empire 1 reputation before 49, after -40
Empire 2 reputation before 61, after 60
Empire 3 reputation before 0, after 0
Empire 4 reputation before 55, after 54
Empire 5 reputation before 13, after 12
Empire 6 reputation before -44, after -44

Empire 1 also had "pleased" or "friendly" status with most of those other empires. Realistically there should have been some serious diplomatic repercussions for my Empire's bad behavior that go way beyond just a token 1 point reputation drop in most cases.

< Message edited by Quad Fin Rider -- 1/26/2013 1:17:01 AM >


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RE: Reputation Management - 1/26/2013 8:21:29 AM   

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On the other hand, non-capricious behaviour is penalized just as strongly as capricious. Why can't I raid someone who already raided me without declaring war first, or else the consequences... Grrr!


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