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GC39 Piatek tips - 1/22/2013 7:54:29 PM   
Ismar

 

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Old PG2 fan here, I just bought Panzer Corps and the first DLC, GC39. Great game, a huge improvement on PG.

Anyway, I started with the GC and am hitting a snag in the Piatek scenario, the one where you either need to defend EVER objective against the Polish counter attack for a Decisive victory, or only defend 1 for a marginal victory.

I've having a hard time defending every objective, and am thinking of dropping back to only defend 1 or 2.

Any tips or tricks to help me along and get that Decisive victory?

Thanks,
Don
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RE: GC39 Piatek tips - 1/22/2013 8:00:39 PM   
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What does your force structure look like? I don't recall huge problems, but I favor Sturmpanzer Arty over tanks, early. I also used an 88 in AT mode, along with Stukas.

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RE: GC39 Piatek tips - 1/22/2013 8:05:59 PM   
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7x Infantry (2x Wehrmacht, 5x Gebirasjager)
3x Panzer 38(t)
1x SdKfz 222
1x 10.5cm leFH18
2x Sturempanzer I
1x Bf109
1x Ju 87B

It's been a good offensive force, well rounded, but it doesn't seem to be serving me well in the defensive roll. It's basically the same force as the starting campaign force, with some additions and upgrades.

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RE: GC39 Piatek tips - 1/23/2013 11:14:37 PM   
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:: WARNING! WALL OF TEXT ::

The missions is not that hard. Just old pike and bow tactics, but start expanding your tanks force. Double it in the next two scenarios. If you can afford it start training new aircraft as soon you hit the exp cap. Polish air force is quite weak which a good environment to train recruit pilots. You don't want to do this later when facing veterans piloting modern planes.

Back to the mission.
Overstrength both Wehrmacht infantry if possible. Place your most experienced Wehr-Inf. in Piatek (13,12). The other goes to Ozorkow (7,16).
These two cities will see most of the action. The higher ground defense of the Wehr-inf. will help against tanks and arty fire later.
Try to overstrengh two of your Gebirgsjager troops. Place one at the forest (11,14) to defend this river crossing. The second units goes to (20,15) and then moves up to forest at (19,11) to the defend the other river crossing.

Buy now a 88mm Flak and place it at the crossing at (17,10). When it's your turn again switch to at mode and move it one hex SE to (18,11). It should earn quite some exp reaping tanks foolish enough to attack this crossing. In later scenarios you can use the 88 to attack bunkers in Norway and the Low-land campaigns.

Place the 10.5 Arty south of Piatek and move it to (14,13) to backup the city defender. If you can afford it buy an other Sturmpanzer and place it south of your 10.5 arty to defend it from river crossing units. If you can't afford you will have to move you're arty around to avoid being rushed.

A Panzer 38t goes to (15,12) to defend the arty and attack crossing infantry.

Your other two Sturmpanzers go to (11,15) and (18,12) to backup your defenders there
Place the other two Panzer 38's together with the Recon unit in the east. Use the tanks where they are need. The initial assault on the eastern mapd edge is quite weak. You may use your tanks to cross the river and flank the attackers, but don't venture north of Bakow Gorny (20,8) nor west of the Bzura Bridge (17,10).
Use your recon unit to recapture taken bridge hexes and then move out again in the same turn. You don't want your units get caught on a bridge. Units receive a large penalty on bridges. Wait I think it was the other way around. You get a bonus for attacking units on bridges/rivers. Either way it's bad. Press L to see the combat logs and learn about the modifiers.

In Lodz (11,23) you will find 3 at guns and a arty piece. Place on AT guns at (8.16), Hill at (10,15) and the Forrest (13,13). The arty goes to (8,17).

You find an other AT gun and arty next to the city of Lowicz (25,10) leave the arty where it is but move the AT gun into the city.
The enemy will start attacking Piatek and western hexes. Later the attack will shift to the east. Depending how good you're doing you can move your arty defending the bridge at (10,14) to the eastern bridges. Now let the enemy come to you. Hit units next to you're defenders with the arty to stun them before attacking. So that you always takes little or hopefully not damage in doing so. Watch your ammo levels! Never let any unit go below 2 ammo especially arty. Take an exception to this rule in emergency situations of course.

Priorities your Air force to attack units in that order. Units crossing the river and threatening your position. Tanks then Arty.
Word of advice if you plan to play the grand campaign to the bitter end at 1945 don't use Stukas. They need babysitting all the time or they blow up. Instead use Fighter Bombers like the BF110. The difference in ground attack is negligible but the ability to effectively defend and attack other airplanes becomes crucial when you later face powerful and experienced air force.
While your fighters engage the enemy fighters, your fighter-bombers can dispose the bombers or finish off already weakened fighters.
BF-110's also have a very nice upgrade path, all way up to the powerful Me-410. Try to overstrength your planes. Its rather cheap compared to overstrengthing tanks and greatly boost the planes performance.

The opposing air force always attack in waves. With a figher, figher-bomber combo you can quickly dispose a wave in 1-2 turns and then have up to 3 to 6 turns of clear airspace to bully the enemy at leisure. At my second playthrough at the end I always deployed 8 fighters and 5 fighter-Bombers. But I had actually 10 fighters, 8 fighter bombers and 5 strat bombers. As backup should I lose a plane. At the end recruit planes stand no change against the AI elite fighters. Either you have backup replacements, cheat or use ground AA units instead.


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RE: GC39 Piatek tips - 1/23/2013 11:36:02 PM   
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Thanks for taking the time to do that write-up. Very useful info indeed

I'll be buying some 88's for sure to use in the AT role.

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RE: GC39 Piatek tips - 1/24/2013 2:25:09 PM   
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Finished the scenario last night with a decisive victory. I deviated slightly from your recommendations, more from a fact that I was 5 turns into the scenario when you posted. Luckily I had already set-up similar to your write-up. I did buy an 88mm Flak, but it didn't see much action unfortunately. I bought an extra Sturmpanzer and used them all to soften up infantry next to the cities so my entrenched infantry could kill them. This was also the first scenario where I found a use for the AT guns, they were great for killing hard targets that got stuck on the bridges.

I also ventured out a bit with my recon, and captured some Polish cities and airfield to harass the AI. Not sure if it helped at all, but it did net me some extra Prestige that I put to good use.

The AI attacked heavy on the west front, and I timed it perfectly to shift my artillery to the north/east to help hold that front when the wave hit. I had to shift the arty back to the west for the last 4-5 turns, as another wave hit that side. The Sturmpanzer were great in that I could move multiple hexes and fire. I was able to keep them resupplied in waves so I always had at least 2 arty ready at each city.

Also, I bought a few extra fighters and Bf110's now (after the scenario ended), to help build experience per your recommendation. I do plan on seeing the whole Grand Campaign through to the end.

Thanks again,
Don

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