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RE: Night Bombing of Airfields - 2/4/2013 5:06:52 PM   
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RE: Night Bombing of Airfields - 2/4/2013 7:43:24 PM   
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ORIGINAL: castor troy
I know Nikademus and Joe Wilkerson for example who have spoken about having house rules on night bombing. I don't have to tell you they didn't say: "night bombing is screwed up and here's the house rule to fix it" ? And still they had a house rule. Both Nik and Joe have been part of the dev team and they are probably not the only ones using a hr. Noone forces you to use a hr nor is there anyone forcing you out of your oppinion of pin point attacks at night but if you just want to go with your above statement, there was more than one dev using a hr, so...

one of the official patches had a change in regards to night bombing which made it far better (means less effective) but ppl are still using hr, to each his own I'd say

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Hi Castor Troy,

This jibes with my recollection from reading Nik's contributions on the matter. Don't recall hearing about JWilkerson's POV on this.

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RE: Night Bombing of Airfields - 2/4/2013 9:24:17 PM   
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Night bombings are still a bit overpowered, but it is now highly dependent on the situation.

The most effective positive modifiers for night bombings still are:
- DL of the base under attack
- Weather
- Altitude

I still think the effect of night bombings is a bit too high with maxed out DL, below it is absolutely reasonable for mid-late war.
The problem is, it is much too easy for a player to max out DL. In addition to accuracy, the op loss figures for night attacks are not high enough, more
so for low exp crews.



For this, in our PBEM, we use the following houserules:

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*) Night bombings must have squadrons set to 50% rest
*) Night bombings may not be performed below 10000ft
(the baloons mentioned are only effective at or below 6k, and only at bases with a combined port&airfield of at least 6, so their existence is no point against an alt restriction,
as the bands from 7-9k are still overpowering night bombing)

Targets may only be chosen depending on moon:

*) Below 20%: no missions possible
*) From 20-50%: only coastal cities may be attacked (no specified industry)
*) Above 50%: non coastal attacks are possible (no specified industry)
*) Above 70%: everything goes, including specified industry, ports, airfields,...



Up to now we have not identified any issues using these HRs, additional advantage is, it restricts tactical targets to 30% of the month.


My personal wish for the next PBEM would be to additionally flavor those HRs depending on the year.

< Message edited by LoBaron -- 2/4/2013 9:25:33 PM >

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RE: Night Bombing of Airfields - 2/5/2013 12:30:46 PM   
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Those sound reasonable, but we are trying to avoid complex house rules and have agreed to proceed without a night bombing rule at this time, and will revisit the issue if it becomes obvious that there is a problem.

To that end I am tracking bombing data. So far my impression is that bombers attacking at low altitude against well reconned bases are capable of inflicting very heavy losses without much cost even if those bases are not overstacked. It may be that insufficient AA is a factor, and steps are being taken to rectify the issue, though security and anti-submarine measures are going to delay delivery considerably...

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