Matrix Games Forums

Battle Academy 2 is out now on iPad!A closer look at rockets in Space Program ManagerDeal of the Week - Pride of NationsA new update for Piercing Fortress EuropaNew screenshots for War in the West!Pike & Shot is now available!Server Maintenance Battle Academy 2 gets updated!Deal of the Week: Advanced Tactics Gold Ask Buzz Aldrin!
Forums  Register  Login  Photo Gallery  Member List  Search  Calendars  FAQ 

My Profile  Inbox  Address Book  My Subscription  My Forums  Log Out

Old School

 
View related threads: (in this forum | in all forums)

Logged in as: Guest
Users viewing this topic: none
  Printable Version
All Forums >> [New Releases from Matrix Games] >> War in the Pacific: Admiral's Edition >> Old School Page: [1] 2   next >   >>
Login
Message << Older Topic   Newer Topic >>
Old School - 1/18/2013 3:23:15 AM   
Razz


Posts: 2523
Joined: 10/21/2007
From: CaLiForNia
Status: offline
Does anyone remember pre- WITP?

I remember this game back in the late 80's early 90's when you had a 5 1/4" floppy.

When the new machines came out you couldn't play it. I think that was 386/486
Post #: 1
RE: Old School - 1/18/2013 3:39:25 AM   
gradenko_2000

 

Posts: 821
Joined: 12/27/2010
Status: offline
Gary Grigsby's Pacific War?

http://www.matrixgames.com/products/235/details/Pacific.War:.Matrix.Edition

(in reply to Razz)
Post #: 2
RE: Old School - 1/18/2013 5:21:54 AM   
Kull


Posts: 1066
Joined: 7/3/2007
From: El Paso, TX
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: gradenko_2000

Gary Grigsby's Pacific War?


Yep, just pulled it out of my ancient software cabinet. Opened the box for the first time in forever and it's got a deteriorating manual and a 720K 3.5 floppy. Fortunately my current system has more than the necessary 640K RAM, but it's sadly lacking in floppy drives of any variety.

Reading the system requirements was like stepping into the wayback machine:

"The game requires 2.5MB of hard disk space and can only be played on a hard drive. An EGA or higher color video system is also required. Note: FILES must be set to at least 20 in your CONFIG.SYS file. No change to BUFFERS is required."

Extra hilarious: There's handwritten sheets in there laying out the Allied set-up requirements. Oh.my.god.

_____________________________

AE-Japan Setup

AE-Allied Setup

Japan Air-Engine Plan

(in reply to gradenko_2000)
Post #: 3
RE: Old School - 1/18/2013 5:31:28 AM   
Razz


Posts: 2523
Joined: 10/21/2007
From: CaLiForNia
Status: offline
You know something, I think it was Pacific War, but it was an earlier version than that if I recall.

I think Pacific War was out before GG got a hold of it. Just like Bombing of the Third Reich. I have a version before GG improved it.

I have been wanting to pick up WITP-AE for years but kept hearing about the negatives, which are basically time and complexity.

Finally made the buy for Christmas.

I'm still waiting to get use to processing a turn. What to do, what order, then what to look for.

Once I get the right combinations down I hope to get each turn down to 20 minutes or less. I can get a turn in about 5 to 10 minutes after the first turn of the day.

I remember Pacific War being one of the best games I ever bought.

Still haven't jumped into War in the East but I spent several months reading each thread.





(in reply to gradenko_2000)
Post #: 4
RE: Old School - 1/18/2013 5:31:30 AM   
wdolson

 

Posts: 8157
Joined: 6/28/2006
From: Near Portland, OR
Status: offline
You could just download a copy

http://www.matrixgames.com/products/235/details/Pacific.War:.Matrix.Edition

Bill

_____________________________

WitP AE - Test team lead, programmer

(in reply to Kull)
Post #: 5
RE: Old School - 1/18/2013 5:38:03 AM   
Razz


Posts: 2523
Joined: 10/21/2007
From: CaLiForNia
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: Kull

quote:

ORIGINAL: gradenko_2000

Gary Grigsby's Pacific War?


Yep, just pulled it out of my ancient software cabinet. Opened the box for the first time in forever and it's got a deteriorating manual and a 720K 3.5 floppy. Fortunately my current system has more than the necessary 640K RAM, but it's sadly lacking in floppy drives of any variety.

Reading the system requirements was like stepping into the wayback machine:

"The game requires 2.5MB of hard disk space and can only be played on a hard drive. An EGA or higher color video system is also required. Note: FILES must be set to at least 20 in your CONFIG.SYS file. No change to BUFFERS is required."

Extra hilarious: There's handwritten sheets in there laying out the Allied set-up requirements. Oh.my.god.


If I remember correctly, the manual explained air combat. What the range means when you see it displayed in combat.

engaging range 5, range 3 etc.

The closer the range the better chances for a hit.

I hope I still have the manual. I'll have to look someday.

(in reply to Kull)
Post #: 6
RE: Old School - 1/18/2013 5:41:13 AM   
Chris H

 

Posts: 3689
Joined: 1/17/2002
From: Bexhill-on-Sea, E Sussex
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: Razz

Does anyone remember pre- WITP?

I remember this game back in the late 80's early 90's when you had a 5 1/4" floppy.

When the new machines came out you couldn't play it. I think that was 386/486


I can go even further back to an old Apple IIe game produced by SSI in the early 80s. I no longer have it but I have just found this on YouTube. Just amazing wants out there.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u94NfFT4qN0

(in reply to Razz)
Post #: 7
RE: Old School - 1/18/2013 5:50:14 AM   
Razz


Posts: 2523
Joined: 10/21/2007
From: CaLiForNia
Status: offline
Another game which I still have is Sea Battle from Mattel on the Intellivision. :)

(in reply to Chris H)
Post #: 8
RE: Old School - 1/18/2013 6:01:04 AM   
dorjun driver


Posts: 640
Joined: 4/20/2006
From: Port Townsend: hex 210,51
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: Chris H


I can go even further back to an old Apple IIe game produced by SSI in the early 80s. I no longer have it but I have just found this on YouTube. Just amazing wants out there.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u94NfFT4qN0



Superb directing and awesome special effects! Would watch again.

(in reply to Chris H)
Post #: 9
RE: Old School - 1/18/2013 11:08:03 AM   
Capt Hornblower


Posts: 214
Joined: 10/29/2010
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: Chris H

I can go even further back to an old Apple IIe game produced by SSI in the early 80s. I no longer have it but I have just found this on YouTube. Just amazing wants out there.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u94NfFT4qN0


A friend of mine had SSI's GUADALCANAL (one of Grigsby's earliest), and we used to stay up all night playing it. Another (later but still old) game was WAR IN THE SOUTH PACIFIC, which I had for my Commodore 64/128 and which I believe was also an SSI product (not sure if it too was a Grigsby design).

(in reply to Chris H)
Post #: 10
RE: Old School - 1/18/2013 12:29:24 PM   
Empire101


Posts: 1957
Joined: 5/20/2008
From: Coruscant
Status: offline
I remember playing this on the good old C<64;








Happy days!!

_____________________________

Our lives may be more boring than those who lived in apocalyptic times,
but being bored is greatly preferable to being prematurely dead because of some ideological fantasy.
- Michael Burleigh


(in reply to Capt Hornblower)
Post #: 11
RE: Old School - 1/18/2013 12:39:01 PM   
wdolson

 

Posts: 8157
Joined: 6/28/2006
From: Near Portland, OR
Status: offline
I liked the Great Naval Battles volume that covered the South Pacific. I never could get any of the other games in the series to run.

Bill

_____________________________

WitP AE - Test team lead, programmer

(in reply to Empire101)
Post #: 12
RE: Old School - 1/18/2013 1:01:11 PM   
Itdepends

 

Posts: 704
Joined: 12/12/2005
Status: offline
Steel Panthers, Typhoon of Steel, Carriers at War- ahhh the memories.

(in reply to wdolson)
Post #: 13
RE: Old School - 1/18/2013 1:09:14 PM   
Oberst_Klink

 

Posts: 1316
Joined: 2/10/2008
From: Germany
Status: offline
Well, if you like retro game AARs, remember the good old Europe Ablaze, CAW and of course Gary's USAAF?

http://gefechtsstand.wordpress.com/2011/02/22/setup-and-first-observations/

Klink, Oberst

_____________________________

Ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam
(Marcus Porcius Cato Censorius)

Visit the Gefechtsstand!

(in reply to Itdepends)
Post #: 14
RE: Old School - 1/18/2013 1:16:05 PM   
Empire101


Posts: 1957
Joined: 5/20/2008
From: Coruscant
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: Oberst_Klink

Well, if you like retro game AARs, remember the good old Europe Ablaze, CAW and of course Gary's USAAF?

Klink, Oberst







Ahhh...USAAF. (nostalgic pause )...One of my favourites from the 80's.......



_____________________________

Our lives may be more boring than those who lived in apocalyptic times,
but being bored is greatly preferable to being prematurely dead because of some ideological fantasy.
- Michael Burleigh


(in reply to Oberst_Klink)
Post #: 15
RE: Old School - 1/18/2013 3:42:02 PM   
joey


Posts: 819
Joined: 5/8/2004
From: Wilmington, DE
Status: offline
My two favorates were USAAF and Tigers in the Snow. I had USAAF for the Apple IIe and I had Tigers on the Atari. Man I spent many hours with those games. Tigers in the Snow was on a cassette tape that had to be loaded on the atari set each time before playing. It took about an hour IIRC.

(in reply to Empire101)
Post #: 16
RE: Old School - 1/18/2013 4:45:14 PM   
Lecivius


Posts: 1625
Joined: 8/5/2007
From: Denver
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: wdolson

I liked the Great Naval Battles volume that covered the South Pacific. I never could get any of the other games in the series to run.

Bill



Aye, Great Naval Battles - Guadalcanal

Fond & fun memories to this day.

(in reply to wdolson)
Post #: 17
RE: Old School - 1/18/2013 5:16:22 PM   
Colonel Mustard


Posts: 196
Joined: 11/22/2012
From: Upstate New York USA
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: Razz

Does anyone remember pre- WITP?

I remember this game back in the late 80's early 90's when you had a 5 1/4" floppy.

When the new machines came out you couldn't play it. I think that was 386/486


I played GGs Pacific War up until about a year ago. I think it was an early 90's program? I got it from an abandonware site called Home of the Underdogs, so there were no disks with it. It will not run under Windows 7 directly, but runs just fine using DosBox. As someone else pointed out, it is still available for free on the Matrix site.

_____________________________

"It's all according to how your boogaloo situation stands, you understand."

(in reply to Razz)
Post #: 18
RE: Old School - 1/18/2013 5:24:23 PM   
aphrochine


Posts: 187
Joined: 3/24/2008
From: Phoenix, AZ
Status: offline
I'm a youngin'. My Pacific War gaming experience began with PTO for the SNES, at which point I began to learn all about the places my dad talked about.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P.T.O.

_____________________________

VMF-422 fanboy
Grog Virgin fanboy

(in reply to Colonel Mustard)
Post #: 19
RE: Old School - 1/18/2013 5:28:17 PM   
crsutton


Posts: 7237
Joined: 12/6/2002
From: Maryland
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: wdolson

I liked the Great Naval Battles volume that covered the South Pacific. I never could get any of the other games in the series to run.

Bill


Yep, the Great Naval Battles that covered the Guadalcanal campaign was excellent. Best part was that if you had an injured ship, you could devote hours to trying to save it. It just broke your heart to see the compartments filling up with water as you transferred your pumps back and forth trying to keep up. They then made two or three more larger games based on the same system that were all crap as they never worked. And they did not care much to fix them.

_____________________________

I am the Holy Roman Emperor and am above grammar.

Sigismund of Luxemburg

(in reply to wdolson)
Post #: 20
RE: Old School - 1/18/2013 5:33:23 PM   
crsutton


Posts: 7237
Joined: 12/6/2002
From: Maryland
Status: offline
Epyx's "Sub Battles" was the first computer game that I bought. For my Leading Edge PC. My wife threatened to leave me because I was playing it so much. She is still here and I am still playing too much......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esUQIi9Qv7A

_____________________________

I am the Holy Roman Emperor and am above grammar.

Sigismund of Luxemburg

(in reply to crsutton)
Post #: 21
RE: Old School - 1/18/2013 9:07:20 PM   
JeffK


Posts: 5195
Joined: 1/26/2005
From: Back in the Office, Can I get my tin hut back!
Status: offline
First Computer game I had was B1 Bomber.

The US wet dream of bombing the USSR.

We broke it because we found that you could fly the B1 at below sea level, devs didnt think of that!!, but the SAM & fighters couldnt attack you.

You had to "pop up" to bomb but you could hide again on the way home.

I think we played it 2-3 times and went back to board games.

_____________________________

Interdum feror cupidine partium magnarum Europae vincendarum

(in reply to crsutton)
Post #: 22
RE: Old School - 1/18/2013 10:55:27 PM   
Mike Solli


Posts: 14035
Joined: 10/18/2000
From: the flight deck of the Zuikaku
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: Razz

Another game which I still have is Sea Battle from Mattel on the Intellivision. :)


Intellivision! First "computer" game I ever played.

_____________________________


Created by the amazing Dixie

(in reply to Razz)
Post #: 23
RE: Old School - 1/19/2013 1:43:45 AM   
wgs_explorer

 

Posts: 80
Joined: 10/31/2002
From: Miami, Florida
Status: offline
I remember when I was in the Army and on CQ duty. I would ask the First Sergeant if I could bring my computer down to the CQ. He naturally said yes figuring I would be studying some sort of thing related to combat engineering. Once everyone was gone, I'd pop in "Computer Bismarck"!

_____________________________


(in reply to Mike Solli)
Post #: 24
RE: Old School - 1/19/2013 1:59:11 AM   
wdolson

 

Posts: 8157
Joined: 6/28/2006
From: Near Portland, OR
Status: offline
A friend of my sister's was in the Air Force and assigned to a small radar site in California. He would volunteer for night duty because he could sit there and work on his model planes while "watching" the scopes. There rarely was anything of note. Mostly it was commercial traffic into the local Bay Area airports.

Though he did see something flying parallel to the coast one night that he calculated must be doing about mach 7. It was about 50 miles off the coast and flying at 70,000 feet. He assumes it was an SR-71. Or maybe it was some other top secret aircraft.

The site was on the flight path for Moffett Field, which was actively used by the Navy at the time. On the top of their water tank they painted a giant Air Force logo that said "Go Air Force". The only people who could see it were the Navy guys flying into Moffett.

Bill

_____________________________

WitP AE - Test team lead, programmer

(in reply to wgs_explorer)
Post #: 25
RE: Old School - 1/19/2013 7:32:46 AM   
inqistor


Posts: 1332
Joined: 5/12/2010
Status: offline
Anyone remember IWO JIMA?
I once managed to beat it on hardest level, but I failed to win OKINAWA on two last hardest.
Not that, after mid-game you have anything, except artillery, after dealing with those 20 point bunkers.


DAMMIT, I wish Japan in WITP have such emplacement artillery range advantage, as in those games...

(in reply to wdolson)
Post #: 26
RE: Old School - 1/19/2013 9:20:46 AM   
LargeSlowTarget


Posts: 2812
Joined: 9/23/2000
From: The deepest, darkest pit of hell
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: Lecivius


quote:

ORIGINAL: wdolson

I liked the Great Naval Battles volume that covered the South Pacific. I never could get any of the other games in the series to run.

Bill



Aye, Great Naval Battles - Guadalcanal

Fond & fun memories to this day.


+1

Sold my Amiga and purchased my first PC when I found out about this game - and like crsutton spent hours on damage control

Can't remember any good strategy game on the Amiga (apart from Civ I).

Guadalcanal on the C64 must have been my earliest Pacific strategy game.

Guess that qualifies me for "Old School"?

But never had any board games - so I'm not "Stone Age"

< Message edited by LargeSlowTarget -- 1/19/2013 9:22:13 AM >


_____________________________

Carpe Cerevisiam



WitP AAR "Six Years of War"

(in reply to Lecivius)
Post #: 27
RE: Old School - 1/19/2013 11:08:50 AM   
Chris H

 

Posts: 3689
Joined: 1/17/2002
From: Bexhill-on-Sea, E Sussex
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: Capt Hornblower

quote:

ORIGINAL: Chris H

I can go even further back to an old Apple IIe game produced by SSI in the early 80s. I no longer have it but I have just found this on YouTube. Just amazing wants out there.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u94NfFT4qN0


A friend of mine had SSI's GUADALCANAL (one of Grigsby's earliest), and we used to stay up all night playing it. Another (later but still old) game was WAR IN THE SOUTH PACIFIC, which I had for my Commodore 64/128 and which I believe was also an SSI product (not sure if it too was a Grigsby design).




Forgot that one, so did I again for the apple.

< Message edited by Chris H -- 1/19/2013 11:10:41 AM >

(in reply to Capt Hornblower)
Post #: 28
RE: Old School - 1/19/2013 12:25:54 PM   
Encircled


Posts: 1033
Joined: 12/30/2010
From: Northern England
Status: offline
Remember "Midway" on the Spectrum 48K

Spent days on "Arnhem" in my teens, until we found out that massed Allied artillery battalions could destroy German troops with ease. No fun after that as it was always going to end in an Allied win.

Arnhem

< Message edited by Encircled -- 1/19/2013 12:29:38 PM >

(in reply to Razz)
Post #: 29
RE: Old School - 1/19/2013 2:39:12 PM   
SvenNyqvist

 

Posts: 36
Joined: 7/13/2007
Status: offline
I still play GNB II (Guadalcanal) occasionally. It works in the DosBox under XP (even the sound).

I found Pacific War in "Twenty Wargames", which I bought in Stockholm because of GNB III, which was a disappointment. Pacific War however was so good that I continued till Matrix Games appeared.

Sven

(in reply to Encircled)
Post #: 30
Page:   [1] 2   next >   >>
All Forums >> [New Releases from Matrix Games] >> War in the Pacific: Admiral's Edition >> Old School Page: [1] 2   next >   >>
Jump to:





New Messages No New Messages
Hot Topic w/ New Messages Hot Topic w/o New Messages
Locked w/ New Messages Locked w/o New Messages
 Post New Thread
 Reply to Message
 Post New Poll
 Submit Vote
 Delete My Own Post
 Delete My Own Thread
 Rate Posts


Forum Software © ASPPlayground.NET Advanced Edition 2.4.5 ANSI

0.117