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Does units in "rest" get affected by enemy bo... - 1/14/2013 11:26:50 PM   
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Status: offline 		Lets say I am sieging an enemy; we both have troops in the same hex. I have a the numerical advantage,
there is a daily exchange of bombardment fire.

assuming I have enough troops in combat mode to take care of any counter attack; my question is, what will be better for reducing fatigue and disruption, "rest" or "reserve" ?
rest should be the best way of reducing fatigue and disruption, but as per the manual, a unit in reserve will not be part of combat or bombardment, and daily bombardment will obviously adds quite a lot disruption. what I am not sure, is if a unit in "rest/ training" will receive bombardment

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RE: Does units in "rest" get affected by enem... - 1/14/2013 11:34:00 PM   
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Status: offline 		It will do far more harm than good resting units in a combat hex. An enemy bombardment will inflict extra losses, fatigue and disruption to the 'resting units.

Move them out of the combat hex if they are that badly disrupted/fatigued and feed fresh troops in.
The presence of enemy troops in a hex makes it far more difficult for the unit to reduce disruption/fatigue.

Otherwise leave them in combat mode in the hex.

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RE: Does units in "rest" get affected by enem... - 1/15/2013 2:03:23 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Jorge_Stanbury

Lets say I am sieging an enemy; we both have troops in the same hex. I have a the numerical advantage,
there is a daily exchange of bombardment fire.

assuming I have enough troops in combat mode to take care of any counter attack; my question is, what will be better for reducing fatigue and disruption, "rest" or "reserve" ?
rest should be the best way of reducing fatigue and disruption, but as per the manual, a unit in reserve will not be part of combat or bombardment, and daily bombardment will obviously adds quite a lot disruption. what I am not sure, is if a unit in "rest/ training" will receive bombardment



From the manual 8.2.1.1

Units in Reserve in a hex that are defending have the following effects:
»» Do not fire in combat
»» Are not affected by bombardment attack
»» Are not used in initial odds calculations
»» Will not suffer casualties in the combat unless released – see below

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RE: Does units in "rest" get affected by enem... - 1/15/2013 2:22:36 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Jorge_Stanbury

Lets say I am sieging an enemy; we both have troops in the same hex. I have a the numerical advantage,
there is a daily exchange of bombardment fire.

assuming I have enough troops in combat mode to take care of any counter attack; my question is, what will be better for reducing fatigue and disruption, "rest" or "reserve" ?
rest should be the best way of reducing fatigue and disruption, but as per the manual, a unit in reserve will not be part of combat or bombardment, and daily bombardment will obviously adds quite a lot disruption. what I am not sure, is if a unit in "rest/ training" will receive bombardment



From the manual 8.2.1.1

Units in Reserve in a hex that are defending have the following effects:
»» Do not fire in combat
»» Are not affected by bombardment attack
»» Are not used in initial odds calculations
»» Will not suffer casualties in the combat unless released – see below

Is that section specific to artillery bombardment? I have seen units in reserve mode take disruption and eventually destroyed squads from naval and air bombardment. They do seem to take less effects than if they were in rest or move mode, but about the same as combat/defend mode [in foxholes].

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RE: Does units in "rest" get affected by enem... - 1/15/2013 2:38:08 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58

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ORIGINAL: Jorge_Stanbury

Lets say I am sieging an enemy; we both have troops in the same hex. I have a the numerical advantage,
there is a daily exchange of bombardment fire.

assuming I have enough troops in combat mode to take care of any counter attack; my question is, what will be better for reducing fatigue and disruption, "rest" or "reserve" ?
rest should be the best way of reducing fatigue and disruption, but as per the manual, a unit in reserve will not be part of combat or bombardment, and daily bombardment will obviously adds quite a lot disruption. what I am not sure, is if a unit in "rest/ training" will receive bombardment



From the manual 8.2.1.1

Units in Reserve in a hex that are defending have the following effects:
»» Do not fire in combat
»» Are not affected by bombardment attack
»» Are not used in initial odds calculations
»» Will not suffer casualties in the combat unless released – see below

Is that section specific to artillery bombardment? I have seen units in reserve mode take disruption and eventually destroyed squads from naval and air bombardment. They do seem to take less effects than if they were in rest or move mode, but about the same as combat/defend mode [in foxholes].


Air bombardment isn't bombardment; it's bombing. I believe when the manual means naval bombardment it adds the "naval." This section of the manual concerns LCU postures for ground combat (the sub-section preceeding covers Reverve mode when attack orders are in play in the hex.) So, I believe this rule works for ground bombardment. IOW, arty. That was the subject of the OP as I see it.

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RE: Does units in "rest" get affected by enem... - 1/15/2013 2:43:41 AM   
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Status: offline 		That's what I thought Moose. Just wanted to make sure that everyone knew it was that specific situation. Some people do use the term bombardment for aerial bombing.

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RE: Does units in "rest" get affected by enem... - 1/15/2013 2:54:03 AM   
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That's what I thought Moose. Just wanted to make sure that everyone knew it was that specific situation. Some people do use the term bombardment for aerial bombing.


Darn sure Clausewitz wouldn't!!!

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