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AE play vs the AI "Issue" - 1/9/2013 2:55:57 AM   
Suhiir

 

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Status: offline 		If there's no "game balance" in favor of the AI perhaps there is some other "issue" with the surface combat system that could stand to be addressed.

Or is it claimed that 70 hits to sink an AI controlled CVE and 22 to sink a DD, while player controlled ships take the damage shown from 1 or 2 hits is perfectly reasonable?

Encounter #1
Jul 2, 1942 - Clear/75% Moonlight - 11,000 to 2,000 yards
Singapore Harbor - Willis crosses the 'T'

CA Cornwall hit 2 times (Sys 12, Eng 2)
CA Devonshire hit 1 torpedo (Sys 53, Flt 67(55), Eng 31(27))
CA Exeter hit 1 time (Sys ?, Eng ?)
DD Decoy hit 1 time (Sys 16, Eng 5(5))
DD Electra hit 1 time (Sys 18, Eng 6(2))
DD Tjerk Hiddes hit 1 time (Sys 19, Flt 4(1), Eng 3(1))

CVE Unyo hit 11 times

Japanese escape

Encounter #2
Jul 2, 1942 - Clear/64% Moonlight - 11,000 to 2,000 yards
Open sea near Singapore

CVE Unyo hit 59 times - Sunk

Encounter #3
Jul 3, 1942 - Clear/Daytime - 20,000 to 9,000 yards
Open sea near Singapore

CA Dorsetshire hit 1 torpedo (Sys 55, Flt 77(75), Eng 61(57), Fire 82) - Sunk
CA Exeter hit 1 time (Sys 12, Flt 3, Eng 1)

DD Oshio hit 22 times - Sunk

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CD Version of WitP AE with all patches
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Fleet Command: VADM Willis (70/55/75/76)
Bombardment - Mission Speed - Max React: 3
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Ship (Day/Night-Ldr/Insp/Naval/Agres)

CA Cornwall (74/61-63/55/61/53)
CA Devonshire (67/56-63/58/63/58)
CA Dorsetshire (66/62-56/56/63/55)
CA Exeter (74/66-62/62/62/62)
CL Glasgow (69/58-62/52/62/52)
CL Mauritius (74/64-62/58/62/62)
CL Newcastle (76/57-63/52/63/52)
DD Decoy (69/63-60/50/60/50)
DD Electra (70/58-60/50/60/50)
DD Encounter (80/65-52/51/57/63)
DD Express (67/65-54/51/60/53)
DD Fortune (66/58-55/45/55/55)
DD Foxhound (75/65-60/50/60/50)
DD Hotspur (67/59-50/54/56/56)
DD Inconstant (67/55-60/50/60/50)
DD Jupiter (72/63-58/55/61)
DD Tjerk Hiddes (55/56-54/47/53/48)

VS

CVE Unyo (?/?-?/?/?/?)
DD Oshio (?/?-?/?/?/?)

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Note: This will be my absolute last attempt to get someone to pay attention to this "issue".
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RE: AE play vs the AI "Issue" - 1/9/2013 3:07:44 AM   
wdolson

 

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Status: offline 		What difficulty level is the AI set to. That's going to affect outcomes.

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RE: AE play vs the AI "Issue" - 1/9/2013 3:15:56 AM   
Suhiir

 

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Status: offline 		Easy
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MAYBE I know what the problem is ...
The allies never developed high explosive shells and are using solid shot ... you need to sink AI ships with the combined weight of the shells you hit them with.

< Message edited by Suhiir -- 1/9/2013 3:18:08 AM >

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RE: AE play vs the AI "Issue" - 1/9/2013 3:43:52 AM   
Alfred

 

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Status: offline 		You could try to give us some hard data, such as


  • how many were penetrating hits
  • the calibre of the weapon which made a hit
  • where did the hit register


Alfred

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RE: AE play vs the AI "Issue" - 1/9/2013 1:29:44 PM   
Andy Mac

 

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Status: offline 		Ammo levels in RN Ships were they using AAMG's ??

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RE: AE play vs the AI "Issue" - 1/10/2013 12:48:51 AM   
Kull


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Suhiir

Easy
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MAYBE I know what the problem is ...
The allies never developed high explosive shells and are using solid shot ... you need to sink AI ships with the combined weight of the shells you hit them with.



Delightful. Going full stupid is never a good strategy.

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RE: AE play vs the AI "Issue" - 1/10/2013 4:15:14 AM   
PaxMondo


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Kull

quote:

ORIGINAL: Suhiir

Easy
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MAYBE I know what the problem is ...
The allies never developed high explosive shells and are using solid shot ... you need to sink AI ships with the combined weight of the shells you hit them with.



Delightful. Going full stupid is never a good strategy.

+1

Well Said!!!






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RE: AE play vs the AI "Issue" - 1/10/2013 8:33:24 PM   
DivePac88


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Kull

quote:

ORIGINAL: Suhiir

Easy
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MAYBE I know what the problem is ...
The allies never developed high explosive shells and are using solid shot ... you need to sink AI ships with the combined weight of the shells you hit them with.



Delightful. Going full stupid is never a good strategy.


You're taking a chance there Kull old chap, I got called a Troll for a statement like that.


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You understand now, Why you came this way

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