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Iwo??? - 1/2/2013 2:37:40 AM   
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The manual states Iwo-jima is a "small island" and "rough" terrain. I assumed this meant Iwo was NOT an atoll... but when I invaded Iwo, combat was treated like an atoll, "auto shock attack" and "no retreat".

Am I misinterpreting the manual???
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RE: Iwo??? - 1/2/2013 2:43:30 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Viking67

The manual states Iwo-jima is a "small island" and "rough" terrain. I assumed this meant Iwo was NOT an atoll... but when I invaded Iwo, combat was treated like an atoll, "auto shock attack" and "no retreat".

Am I misinterpreting the manual???



Look in Appendix B. Small Island is the size, atoll is the terrain. They have different effects and limitations.

Edit: OK, I see the question now. Sorry.

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RE: Iwo??? - 1/2/2013 2:46:26 AM   
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I am looking at the manual and did so when planning the attack, it is listed as "rough". Is the manual incorrect?

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RE: Iwo??? - 1/2/2013 2:46:48 AM   
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Also, the auto-shock attack is for

a) Any atoll, regardless of size.

AND

b) Any size 1 or size 2 island, regardless of terrain.

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RE: Iwo??? - 1/2/2013 2:52:08 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Viking67

The manual states Iwo-jima is a "small island" and "rough" terrain. I assumed this meant Iwo was NOT an atoll... but when I invaded Iwo, combat was treated like an atoll, "auto shock attack" and "no retreat".

Am I misinterpreting the manual???



Look in this thread. Devs answered the quesiton.

http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=2180269&mpage=1&key=atoll�

Island size drives the shock attack, not terrain type.

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RE: Iwo??? - 1/2/2013 2:52:13 AM   
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Ok. What is the definition of an atoll? Size 1 and 2 islands? Are size 1 and 2 islands = "small" = "atolls"?

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RE: Iwo??? - 1/2/2013 2:53:32 AM   
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Ok. What is the definition of an atoll? Size 1 and 2 islands? Are size 1 and 2 islands = "small" = "atolls"?


Atoll is a terrain type, not a size or a shape.

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RE: Iwo??? - 1/2/2013 2:55:34 AM   
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Ok. Atoll is a terrain type, but Iwo is listed as terrain type "rough".

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RE: Iwo??? - 1/2/2013 2:56:53 AM   
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witpqs's post is clear enough.

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RE: Iwo??? - 1/2/2013 3:20:36 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Viking67

Ok. Atoll is a terrain type, but Iwo is listed as terrain type "rough".


Right. You got a shock attack because of island size. Iwo is volcanic; it's not a coral atoll.

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RE: Iwo??? - 1/2/2013 3:30:00 PM   
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I don't think there should be any surprise here. We all have read of the invasion and seen photos of the island. I never had to look at the manual to know what kind of invasion was going to take place when I invaded Iwo. A lot of other places yes, but not Iwo.

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RE: Iwo??? - 1/2/2013 5:09:25 PM   
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I don't think there should be any surprise here. We all have read of the invasion and seen photos of the island. I never had to look at the manual to know what kind of invasion was going to take place when I invaded Iwo. A lot of other places yes, but not Iwo.


True enough.

Still, the atoll rules did cause a lot of consternation when the game came out, especially with old WITP players. Another place the manual could have been clearer in hindsight.

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RE: Iwo??? - 1/2/2013 5:33:38 PM   
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I got caught short by failing to realize that even non-atoll islands would cause- auto-shock attack if size 1 or 2. I sure remember it now!

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RE: Iwo??? - 1/3/2013 6:20:20 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: witpqs

I got caught short by failing to realize that even non-atoll islands would cause- auto-shock attack if size 1 or 2. I sure remember it now!


Yep, it only takes one disaster and then you never forget it..

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