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OT: New Years for Canoerebel - 12/31/2012 7:08:20 PM   
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Was looking for a nice traditional Southron New Yearís eve dinner recipe, and came across some interesting things about the genesis of the traditions.

Itís 1865 and your land is devastated and you are hungry. Canít eat cotton, and most plantations didnít grow truck. But they did grow peas and corn for animal feed and greens for the slaves, so that was pretty much what they were reduced to surviving on. It became a tradition.

Every New Yearís, a Southron would eat what their ancestors did as a hope for prosperity in the coming year. The black-eyed peas represent coins (serious traditionalists require at least 365 peas in a serving); the greens (collards, mustards, or spinach for the faint of heart) represent greenback dollars; the cornbread (donít forget, eating white bread was a mark of gentility) represents gold dollars.

Some folks think the hog-jowl for the beans is because the good hog parts were reserved for way more useful purposes and thatís all that was left. I like to think it was more a flavoring added to a fairly tangy, but nonetheless tasty bean.

I do like a ham steak, some black-eyed peas, collards, and cornbread for New Yearís eve.

Ciao. JWE
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RE: OT: New Years for Canoerebel - 12/31/2012 9:59:24 PM   
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Don't forget Poke Salad for the truly destitute.

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RE: OT: New Years for Canoerebel - 12/31/2012 10:32:07 PM   
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RE: OT: New Years for Canoerebel - 1/1/2013 7:51:27 AM   
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We don't have a special dinner on new years eve down here, but we have it on new years day. Here is our dinner tonight; Roast lamb, along with roast potatoes, marrow, and fresh minted peas. Which is followed with a suitable break, then by a new Pavlova baked today, all prepared by the impeccable Mrs DivePac.




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RE: OT: New Years for Canoerebel - 1/1/2013 10:56:53 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Symon

Was looking for a nice traditional Southron New Yearís eve dinner recipe, and came across some interesting things about the genesis of the traditions.

Itís 1865 and your land is devastated and you are hungry. Canít eat cotton, and most plantations didnít grow truck. But they did grow peas and corn for animal feed and greens for the slaves, so that was pretty much what they were reduced to surviving on. It became a tradition.

Every New Yearís, a Southron would eat what their ancestors did as a hope for prosperity in the coming year. The black-eyed peas represent coins (serious traditionalists require at least 365 peas in a serving); the greens (collards, mustards, or spinach for the faint of heart) represent greenback dollars; the cornbread (donít forget, eating white bread was a mark of gentility) represents gold dollars.

Some folks think the hog-jowl for the beans is because the good hog parts were reserved for way more useful purposes and thatís all that was left. I like to think it was more a flavoring added to a fairly tangy, but nonetheless tasty bean.

I do like a ham steak, some black-eyed peas, collards, and cornbread for New Yearís eve.

Ciao. JWE




Black Eyed peas and corn bread. Sometimes(and I mean SOMETIMES, I miss Louisiana.

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RE: OT: New Years for Canoerebel - 1/1/2013 4:44:55 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: DivePac88

We don't have a special dinner on new years eve down here, but we have it on new years day. Here is our dinner tonight; Roast lamb, along with roast potatoes, marrow, and fresh minted peas. Which is followed with a suitable break, then by a new Pavlova baked today, all prepared by the impeccable Mrs DivePac.





Is marrow that yellow item? Don't know what that is. I know what bone marrow is, but that dish looks too voluminous to be that if it were a single lamb.

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RE: OT: New Years for Canoerebel - 1/1/2013 5:25:31 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: DivePac88
We don't have a special dinner on new years eve down here, but we have it on new years day. Here is our dinner tonight; Roast lamb, along with roast potatoes, marrow, and fresh minted peas. Which is followed with a suitable break, then by a new Pavlova baked today, all prepared by the impeccable Mrs DivePac.

OMG! Does the impeccable Mrs DivePac have a sister ? I love to cook and lamb is my most favorite, but you can't get good lamb in the States. I spend a lot of time in Chile and the SW Pacific, and lamb is utterly righteous. Don't know from marrow; maybe the impeccable Mrs DivePac can send a recipe?

All my best hopes for a healthy and prosperous New Year.

Your friend. JWE

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RE: OT: New Years for Canoerebel - 1/1/2013 8:45:29 PM   
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Marrows are special vegetables that the Little People (Moon Ticks, and Cabbage Pixies) grow at the bottom of our garden. Marrows are especially prized in New Zealand, because they impart infinite wisdom on the People who eat them. Just look at me... I eat marrow all the time, and I'm probably the wisest person on this site.

Incidentally Mrs DivePac calls them Pumpkins, but I think that's because Shes a woman.

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RE: OT: New Years for Canoerebel - 1/1/2013 9:15:27 PM   
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Marrows are special vegetables that the Little People (Moon Ticks, and Cabbage Pixies) grow at the bottom of our garden. Marrows are especially prized in New Zealand, because they impart infinite wisdom on the People who eat them. Just look at me... I eat marrow all the time, and I'm probably the wisest person on this site.

Incidentally Mrs DivePac calls them Pumpkins, but I think that's because Shes a woman.


Ah. With the hint I went to Wiki and it says marrows are a type of British-English squash. In the US squash are eaten in a variety of ways, but pumpkins are pie veggies or decorations. Not great eating as a side dish. Some people like the seeds, roasted and salted.

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RE: OT: New Years for Canoerebel - 1/1/2013 9:48:14 PM   
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but you can't get good lamb in the States. Your friend. JWE



You need to come to St. Louis and go to Ari's and get a lamb shank. They are awsome.

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RE: OT: New Years for Canoerebel - 1/1/2013 9:51:17 PM   
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You can't get any more Southern than New Zealand. The marrow is the green squash with the yellow pulp.

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RE: OT: New Years for Canoerebel - 1/2/2013 1:59:02 AM   
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That''s exactly what I had today while I watched the Gamecocks stun the Wolverines!
quote:

ORIGINAL: Symon

Was looking for a nice traditional Southron New Yearís eve dinner recipe, and came across some interesting things about the genesis of the traditions.

Itís 1865 and your land is devastated and you are hungry. Canít eat cotton, and most plantations didnít grow truck. But they did grow peas and corn for animal feed and greens for the slaves, so that was pretty much what they were reduced to surviving on. It became a tradition.

Every New Yearís, a Southron would eat what their ancestors did as a hope for prosperity in the coming year. The black-eyed peas represent coins (serious traditionalists require at least 365 peas in a serving); the greens (collards, mustards, or spinach for the faint of heart) represent greenback dollars; the cornbread (donít forget, eating white bread was a mark of gentility) represents gold dollars.

Some folks think the hog-jowl for the beans is because the good hog parts were reserved for way more useful purposes and thatís all that was left. I like to think it was more a flavoring added to a fairly tangy, but nonetheless tasty bean.

I do like a ham steak, some black-eyed peas, collards, and cornbread for New Yearís eve.

Ciao. JWE




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RE: OT: New Years for Canoerebel - 1/2/2013 2:32:31 AM   
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ORIGINAL: geofflambert


quote:

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but you can't get good lamb in the States. Your friend. JWE



You need to come to St. Louis and go to Ari's and get a lamb shank. They are awsome.



I certainly think I'll try that! I hear St. Louis is a foodies delight!



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RE: OT: New Years for Canoerebel - 1/2/2013 3:52:36 AM   
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By the way, I'm all for substituting good olive oil for butter (and I do mean good), but in the case of a squash like that, it really needs a pat of butter.

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RE: OT: New Years for Canoerebel - 1/2/2013 7:43:46 AM   
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That marrow looks like buttercup squash, no? I didn't know the product from a pumpkin until my firm started to represent the NZ Buttercup Squash Council here. Good eatin'.

Ugh, don't get me started on the Michigan-South Carolina game.

Cheers,
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RE: OT: New Years for Canoerebel - 1/3/2013 6:49:42 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58


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ORIGINAL: DivePac88

Marrows are special vegetables that the Little People (Moon Ticks, and Cabbage Pixies) grow at the bottom of our garden. Marrows are especially prized in New Zealand, because they impart infinite wisdom on the People who eat them. Just look at me... I eat marrow all the time, and I'm probably the wisest person on this site.

Incidentally Mrs DivePac calls them Pumpkins, but I think that's because Shes a woman.


Ah. With the hint I went to Wiki and it says marrows are a type of British-English squash. In the US squash are eaten in a variety of ways, but pumpkins are pie veggies or decorations. Not great eating as a side dish. Some people like the seeds, roasted and salted.


I could eat butternut squash every day fro the rest of my life and be a happy man. It will need butter and brown sugar to top it off.

We roast the pumpkin seeds when we're done carving pumpkins. Great with salt!

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RE: OT: New Years for Canoerebel - 1/3/2013 7:35:44 PM   
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Hmmmm...reading this seriously makes me hungry!

We celebrated with my first attempt at Prime Rib done here at home. MAGNIFICENT!


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RE: OT: New Years for Canoerebel - 1/3/2013 7:38:47 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Symon

Was looking for a nice traditional Southron New Yearís eve dinner recipe, and came across some interesting things about the genesis of the traditions.

Itís 1865 and your land is devastated and you are hungry. Canít eat cotton, and most plantations didnít grow truck. But they did grow peas and corn for animal feed and greens for the slaves, so that was pretty much what they were reduced to surviving on. It became a tradition.

Every New Yearís, a Southron would eat what their ancestors did as a hope for prosperity in the coming year. The black-eyed peas represent coins (serious traditionalists require at least 365 peas in a serving); the greens (collards, mustards, or spinach for the faint of heart) represent greenback dollars; the cornbread (donít forget, eating white bread was a mark of gentility) represents gold dollars.

Some folks think the hog-jowl for the beans is because the good hog parts were reserved for way more useful purposes and thatís all that was left. I like to think it was more a flavoring added to a fairly tangy, but nonetheless tasty bean.

I do like a ham steak, some black-eyed peas, collards, and cornbread for New Yearís eve.

Ciao. JWE




...don't forget a dash of vinegar on the greeens and a tall, ice cold glass of buttermilk to dunk the corn bread!!!

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RE: OT: New Years for Canoerebel - 1/3/2013 10:18:41 PM   
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Mmm, butternut squash. We have a restaurant chain (Shari's) in the northwest whose specialty soup is butternut squash. Delicious!

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RE: OT: New Years for Canoerebel - 1/3/2013 11:24:05 PM   
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The state of education in the forum is appalling. Did you not read to your children? If you didn't read them Beatrix Potter why not? All please stand whilst I read a passage from the floppsie bunnies:
"When this happened, the Flopsy Bunnies went across the field to a rubbish heap, in the ditch outside Mr. McGregorís garden. Mr. McGregorís rubbish heap was a mixture. There were jam pots and paper bags, and mountains of chopped grass from the mowing machine (which always tasted oily), and some rotten vegetable marrows and an old boot or two. One dayÖoh joy!Öthere were a quantity of overgrown lettuces, which had ďshotĒ into flower."

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