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Stalingrad questions - 12/16/2012 5:51:43 PM   
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While designing scenarios for this map, I want to make sure I have everything right.
I need some help in making sure I name the buildings properly.
I've numbered the buildings and hope our knowledgeable members can help me out.
I know #15 is the Kommisars house and I believe #14 is the Red house




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RE: Stalingrad questions - 12/16/2012 7:20:37 PM   
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From my copy of ASL Red Barricades

1 Martin-Electro Furnace
2,4,5,7,8,13 Manufacturing Hall
3 Gun Construction Hall
9 Gun Tube Thermal Processing and Deburring Hall
10,12 Foundry Hall
11 Assembly Hall
17 Assistant Power Plant and Oil Heating

As far as I'm aware (ASL Scenario RB7) The Red House and The Commissar's House are the same thing and are no.15 on your map.

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RE: Stalingrad questions - 12/16/2012 9:07:42 PM   
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Thanks Wolfe
I've been cross referencing a lot of things
Here's another map I've been using




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RE: Stalingrad questions - 12/17/2012 12:29:16 AM   
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As you've probably noticed, ASL Red Barricades map has the Chemist's Shop (aka Apotheke) rubbled, whereas it was very much present for the November pioneer assaults (and possibly later, must look up the date it got nuked). Minutae :-)

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RE: Stalingrad questions - 12/17/2012 11:46:06 AM   
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RE: Stalingrad questions - 12/17/2012 11:52:05 AM   
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6 I've no idea..no building looks like that on the maps I'm looking at...

16 is possibly the chemist but again it's shape is more like the Kindergarden but looks abit to big to be the kindergarden..the chemist was L shaped building if you turn the L anit clockwise by 180 degrees. I'd say it's the Kindergarden, but that means a major building is missing which is the Chemist which should be between the Kommissar and the Kindergarden..on the side of the road of the Kindergarden..

If 16 is the Kindergarden then you have the school house missing which would be further towards the factory from the Kindergarden, behind and in the center of the two long buildings you have just west of the Kindergarden..it would be a two hex long building with a tiny bit sticking out each end towards the factories (see the last map you put up which is alot more correct than the ASL RB map....

14 the shape is the same as the end two houses of that street..it certainly isn't the red house which is a one hex building that would be abit further towards the river level with the Kommissar House..

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RE: Stalingrad questions - 12/17/2012 12:00:01 PM   
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I'm using Island of Fire book by Jason Mark which is probably the best book to reference to the battle of Barrikady..the problem is the ASL map your going by doesn't fully correspond to the actual real buildings, esp the Red House, the Chemist SHop, the school and the Kindergarden..pretty much all the main buildings you have infront of the Factories don't correspond to buildings that where there except the Kommissar house. So it's impossible to say what the ASL map makers where trying to do and what buildings are what once we get infront of the factories..

The Red House for instance is no where near that shape or that size or in that posistion..the map I'm looking at it's the exact shape for the end house at the end of the street which is L shaped..The Red House should be further back and a one hex building.

Jamm see the 344th SR unit? Well that house to the right should be L shaped like the house on the map you thought was the red house..it's house Number 78...

As Wolfe said the Chemist shop shouldn't be rubble..really not sure who made the ASL map but it certainly isn't historically correct in alot of parts..

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