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Renamed Air HQ - 12/13/2012 9:31:41 PM   
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I didn't see that in the manual. 8th Air Army was renamed to Stalingrad Air Army and the 15th Air Army to Voronezh Air Army. I thought (based on the manual), that numbered armies will stay there until the end of war (though personally I prefer front-like names, easier to memorize).
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RE: Renamed Air HQ - 12/13/2012 11:13:28 PM   
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Section 8.3.2 lists some Soviet Air HQ's that get renamed. Maybe the ones you mentioned were added later and the manual was not updated.

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RE: Renamed Air HQ - 12/13/2012 11:59:24 PM   
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it doesn't look correct

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RE: Renamed Air HQ - 12/14/2012 1:33:33 AM   
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OK, will add it to the bug list tomorrow.

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RE: Renamed Air HQ - 12/14/2012 9:25:31 AM   
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This happened on the first July'42 turn, as the Southwestern front was renamed (Voronezh wasn't renamed though, but the 15th Air Army was assigned to it a turn before).

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RE: Renamed Air HQ - 12/14/2012 9:39:44 AM   
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Can you send a save, so we could test a fix? Thanks.

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RE: Renamed Air HQ - 12/14/2012 11:08:52 AM   
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From before that turn or after, when I see them renamed?

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RE: Renamed Air HQ - 12/14/2012 12:25:07 PM   
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Send the turn right before they are renamed so Pavel can watch the change. Thanks.

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RE: Renamed Air HQ - 12/14/2012 12:35:49 PM   
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Mail sent.

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RE: Renamed Air HQ - 1/29/2013 8:16:15 PM   
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In the same game, when the Stalingrad Front was renamed to Don Front, the Air Army HQ once again got renamed, to Don Air Army HQ.

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RE: Renamed Air HQ - 1/29/2013 9:02:52 PM   
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quote:

In the same game, when the Stalingrad Front was renamed to Don Front, the Air Army HQ once again got renamed, to Don Air Army HQ.


This is normal. Only numbered armies won't get renamed.

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RE: Renamed Air HQ - 1/29/2013 10:19:10 PM   
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All I can say that my air armies doesn't follow the renaming rules presented in 8.3.2.

These are my air armies on Oct 1st:
Leningrad Air Cmd Leningrad
Northwest Air Cmd Northwest
3rd Air Army Kalinin
Moscow Air Cmd Moscow M.D.
5th Air Army North Caucasus
2nd Air Army Bryansk
Voronezh Air Army Voronezh
1st Air Army Western
14th Air Army Volkhov
Don Air Army Don
4th Air Army Stalingrad
Transcaucasus Air Cmd Transcaucasus
16th Air Army
Volga Air Cmd Volga M.D.
Southern Ural Air Cmd Southeastern M.D.

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RE: Renamed Air HQ - 1/29/2013 10:21:39 PM   
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The rules say that Stalingrad Air Cmd should be renamed to 16th Air Army in Sept'42. I got 16th Air Army as reinforcement, but the Air Cmd changed it's name to Don along with the Front on October'42.

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RE: Renamed Air HQ - 1/29/2013 10:31:17 PM   
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It is hard to comment without knowing when the game has been started. Air Command name should follow the the name of the front unless it is numbered army (it was fixed not so long time ago). In general, soviet air army command naming code assumes that player shouldn't reassign them too often. Probably it makes sense to restrict HHQ change for the Soviet air commands.

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RE: Renamed Air HQ - 1/29/2013 10:54:52 PM   
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I didn't reassign any air command. I have only assigned 15th Air Army to Voronezh since both arrived as reinforcements and unrelated. Maybe the Stalingrad->Don rename wouldn't happen if first the 8th-> Stalingrad hasn't occured. But certainly the manual is wrong about the 16th Air Army - it arrives as unassigned reinforcement. Perhaps that's why the September change didn't occur - the name was already taken.

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RE: Renamed Air HQ - 1/29/2013 11:00:45 PM   
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Currently I'm missing the Northwest-> 6th rename, the Southwest-> 8th rename was lost due to bug (first renamed to Stalingrad, now to Don), 15th was lost due to the same bug (renamed to Voronezh), and the question remains wheter the manual correctly shows the Stalingrad (old Southern) rename - perhaps the date shown is wrong, because they look ordered, and this one is not fitting.

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RE: Renamed Air HQ - 8/22/2013 9:40:40 AM   
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Another bad rename (4th Ukrainian Front also exists).




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RE: Renamed Air HQ - 8/22/2013 10:50:35 AM   
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Fixes for that issue (and above issue with Northwest Air Cmd) sent to Pavel and Joel.

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