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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 6/25/2013 5:16:09 PM   
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E.g. If CR was really sneaky what would happen now is that as John3rd panics in reaction to this invasion the forces off the coast of Oz would turn out to be a real invasion force and would, while he's distracted, move in and take what we were told were their targets.... or this would happen with an invasion somewhere else which was completely off the radar (CENPAC ). I do think that CR is making for Sumatra with awfully little in the way of ground forces and this makes me wonder just where his other ground forces are. I'd be following Sumatra with another operation timed to go in once KB hit the Sumatran region.. I guess we're going to see how sneakily and deeply CR thought about this.


Nemo, even if CR doesn't have the resources to do anything in the SW pacific now (mostly no air cover)if his current operation is successful it puts Japan in a terrible position in 6-12 months. The Allies can choose to hit in the DEI or the Central Pacific with little risk as long as the location of the KB is known. Burma is no longer tenable so China supply will open up. Unless John splits the KB it will just burn fuel going from one ocean to the next to respond to the Allied thrusts. If CR can start to choke off fuel and oil it limits the fleet further, not to mention aircraft production. I think this really opens up the Central Pacific. The Allies only have to bring enough Carrier air to hold off LBA.. By need and by player nature I think Japan will come seeking the decisive battle sooner , rather than later.

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 6/25/2013 5:31:54 PM   
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way, way back in UV days, Wobbly and myself itroduced the individual AARs. Lots of people said it could never work. But think about it, now we all just accept that no one worthy of these forums would ever peek at their opponents AAR , and now we worry about other people accidently giving away secrets.
really, over the years there has been amazingly few indescetions, few cheating moments here on the forums.

I really think that overall, the members of this forum are (in the main) an amazingly honorable and honest lot

hats of to every one

OH, and great AAR, what a lot of fun




I agree with this sentiment 100%.

I've been enjoying reading both AARs on occasion and found myself captivated with CRs movement up the east side of Austrailia. I felt it wasn't his style to go head on with a massive invasion (after what looked like it was telegraphed) and figured something else was in the offing especially when he wrote " I'm counting the days until 18th Division gets to Burma" . I felt something was happening in the Bay of Bengal but not Sumatra.. Enjoyed very much watching it unfold. Super play!!




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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 6/25/2013 5:41:49 PM   
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Wow,its a bit weird you don't have the shipping. I am at the same gametime as you and a lot more xAPs etc were lost before I took over than you've lost and yet I recently shifted 150 unused transports from India and Oz to CONUSA. That has still left me with about 200 transports scattered between Oz and India for my forces there... and that's after more severe losses than you've taken.


I think the Allies can actually feel a bit constrained in troop lift capacity, but the fix for that is to start mass xAP conversions as Allies, particularly the Ec2-Liberty ships. Those, however, cannot convert after the 6/42 upgrade, so you have to get on it early. Some of the Brit xAKs that are convertible also have xAP conversions blocked by upgrades. It's too late at Dan's point in the game to go back and do that.

Maybe, Dan, you didn't do alot of this. The Allies have virtually unlimited xAK, so I see no reason not to mass convert xAK to xAP

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 6/25/2013 6:27:29 PM   
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Somebody previously mentioned that this operation was a continuation of the plan I never got to implement vs. Q-Ball. The forumite that posted that has a long and good memory. The Allies had a massive invasion of Sumatra set for March of '43.



Ha Ha! That was me! I win the Interwebs!!

I would buy out the Indian Division. Now is very good. Even if they can't get to Malaya, a snap invasion of a poorly garrisoned Tavoy or Vicky Point could create utter chaos.

If you can seize the Nicobars (I think you planned to do this) and build them up they can help form an air bridge to Sabang in the event that KB can close your SLoCs.

Definitely cease secondary missions from the CVs and keep them around. A bloody exchange battle with KB now and John may be done.

Push hard in Malaya. Casualties are expected!


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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 6/25/2013 6:27:39 PM   
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This is an interesting discussion, so I took a little census. Current distribution of AP and xAP:

West Coast and Hawaii: 24
Oz and NZ: 2
Capetown and Aden: 4
India: 8 (all helping shuttle troops to Sumatra)
Sumatra: 59

Roughly 69% (67 of 97) of Allied troop transports are involved in this operation. A fair number of those in NoPac and Hawaii were involved in the Aluetians feint that ended about two weeks ago. The New Guinea feint didn't include any troop ships.

There is merit in the contention that the others could have been used for coinciding offensive operations, but there are serious limits. Most troops in West Coast and Hawaii are either support troops or restricted infantry. In Oz, where I do have probably two divisions worth of unrestricted fighting units, the transport capacity was stripped to handle the massive sealift to Sumatra. And with good reason - even using everything at hand, I had to leave behind roughly a division-worth of American infantry and a restricted Oz division that was in port and prepping, but I didn't buy it given the logistical problems. Finally, I always try to keep decent sea lift capacity spread around the map to handle unforeseen contingencies and opportunities.

On the flip side, I did have the foresight to congregate the transports, tankers, replenishment ships, and support ships so important to a mission like this one.

Not bad, I contend, for November 1942.


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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 6/25/2013 6:42:31 PM   
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Ah, this is it...

70% of your sealift carries 5 divisions+ support in this invasion. The other 30% could be carrying 2 to 2.5 divs plus support somewhere else.

Different strokes for different folks. What really matters is you getting a bridgehead in Malaysia quickly ( and by this I mean in the next 2 to 3 days at worst ).

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 6/25/2013 7:07:03 PM   
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Sumatra at Sea: A few turns back, John unleashed a bunch of SSX (I bet he had been gathering these to hit the fleet at Akyab). Today, they sank an AR and damaged an AE and something else. Another sub sank DD Buchanan. (The Allies haven't lost anything larger than these in this operation thus far.) The fast USN BBs bombarded both Langsa and Sibolga without impressive results. Lots of the Bay of Bengal fleet will be reaching Sabang in the next two days. Carrier TF sorties range from 71% to 82%. So, that enters into things now - can I afford to fly ground missions? Do I consider withdrawing carriers to Colombo before the KB shows up, relying on LBA and escort carriers to lend a hand with ground operations.




It all comes down to if you think you can lose your carriers and still sustain the operation. If I were John, my focus would be on fighting your carriers as soon as possible. No matter what happens to his carriers, if yours are put out of action for a few months. I think he can throw you out of Sumatra due to the strength of his LBA.

I don't know about John but my thinking here as a Japanese player would be that I would have to defeat the Allies now or the whole jig is up. So, as the Allies I would act accordingly.

If you think you can trade carriers with John "and" stay in Sumatra, I think I would fight him now. But I don't really know how strong KB is. In scenario 2 stock at this stage of the war, KB was very strong.


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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 6/25/2013 7:13:24 PM   
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Yeah, I think John brings his carriers and combat ships for the decisive battle. I agree.

But no matter what happens, I doubt John is going to recapture Sumatra. The Allies are going to end up with 500 to 750 AV at Sabang including tanks and SWPac HQ. The Allies have already gone toe-to-toe with the IJ airforce for months in Burma and have held their own. Veteran pilots from that campaign will be flying the best fighters available - I think the P-40K can stand up to anything. At sea, I think Allied combat seapower should be roughly equal to Japan (which has at least four BBs down or out now). The carriers are a wild card. Don't know how that ends up. But my early guess is that the Allies have too much, with relatively short LOCs to Ceylon and Assam. Even if things go sour for the Allies it should be months before John could close the chapter on this operation. I don't intend to lose, of course, and the Allies have a big headstart on Fortress Sabang.

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 6/25/2013 8:25:57 PM   
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John's gathering and moving forward his army. His blood lust is up.


Never mind blood lust -- John can read a map. Northern Sumatra in Allied hands is a knife aimed at the vital artery of the Japanese Empire.

Yes, this should be good theater indeed.

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 6/25/2013 8:29:57 PM   
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If he can read a map, why was Sumatra and vicinity undefended?

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 6/25/2013 8:30:31 PM   
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He will come with the fleet and he will come with LBA. He has more LBA. Every AAA unit that is not nailed down should be sent here. If you can pry it loose, it's not nailed down. It will take a while to distribute it to the right places, but it's still going to be along war

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 6/25/2013 8:30:35 PM   
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Unlikely I know, but I wouldn't rule out the Gulf of Siam as a basing point for his carriers.

He must know that the IO is much better for your operations, and no-one in their right mind would use Straits of Malacca to conduct carrier operations in.

He'd been relying on LBA to challenge you in the IO, but it might make more sense than charging straight in.

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 6/25/2013 9:16:37 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

The final tough decision:

1600 PP in the bank. A big (and decent) Indian div. at Chittagong (with plenty of transports there) costs 1550. Worthwhile to buy and move to Sumatra? Decision must be made fast in hopes of getting there ahead of KB (even now it's unlikely). Better to commit the division to Burma (I don't think so). Better not to spend PP right now, instead building the bank for eventual use in the Pacific (okay, that's legit, but isn't Sumatra an "everything now, now, now!" priority?). I'm leaning towards making the buy, but I'm interested in opinions.

Buy the Indian division and send it immediately to Victoria Point. Follow up ASAP with the many small British/Indian/Burmese units as you can pull out of India and Burma without affecting the pressure there.
Malaya is a tender spot that cannot take much pressure at all. Per Nemo, cut the peninsula at Chumphon to deny him strat movement and supply, then salt those small units wherever you can get them to. Note that a lot of them are already assigned to ABDA or Burma Command or Eastern Command which are all unrestricted.

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 6/25/2013 9:24:59 PM   
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That's not going to happen. I contend it's because doing so would be risky or impossible. Victoria Point is a fast-growing enemy aifields with lots of airfields in proximity. I can't get there without carriers. I'm not sending my carriers there. There are, however, other bases further down the coast that I'm exploring - landing tomorrow at Alor Star with landings on two islands. If anything promising develops, I'll follow up. Also, paratroops will be available in a couple of days (though that could be too late).

I bought the Indian division at Chittagong for 1500 PP, leaving me with 100 PP in the bank. I have lots of units going to Madras, but essentially all of them are restricted, so it's going to be a slow process to buy them out and feed them in. I have lots of unrestricted unit in Burma, but it would take months to get them to a port through roadless jungle, and they will serve an important purpose in Burma. One part of the Sumatra operation is to put pressure on John in Burma to weaken his defenses so that the Allies can advance, hopefully at least as far as Rangoon (once I get close, my bombers should be the decisive factor). That, in turn, permits supply to flow into China.


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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 6/25/2013 9:39:46 PM   
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But here are some of the "fun" things taking place this next turn:

1. LCDR Lake will lead the CA Cornwall/CL Achilles TF on a patrol to Victoria Point, targeting a mass of shipping there. This is dangerous ground to get hung up in, but Lake has excellent statistics and this is war!
2. A three-DD TF under the command of an Aussie will patrol forward to Singapore. These three ships have some ammo depletion problems, but the objective is to let John know just how close Singers is to the front lines. :)
3. Part of 18th UK Div. and 762 Tanks will begin landing at Alor Start. Surely this base will be defended, but let's see what happens.
4. Part of 2nd Marine Raiders will land at Phuket, which I believe is undefended.
5. About 80 AV of 18th UK Div. is to storm the beaches of Langkowi, an island just off from Alor Star. I think the base is empty.

The latter two operations have good chances of success. If the Allies get solid lodgements, John has a major problem. He can only hope to retake them by amphibious assault. To get there, he has to either come up the Malacca Straits or come around Sabang. So these two bases may be much more meaningful than you'd think at first blush.

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 6/25/2013 9:46:17 PM   
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If I was John I'd be planning an assault on Ceylon, with troops to occupy it taken from those that will otherwise wilt and die in Burma. Lose Ceylon and the allies can't effectively supply or reinforce the troops in Sumatra. Of course this is easier said than done.

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 6/25/2013 9:51:17 PM   
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How would John gets the ships to carry troops from Burma to Ceylon? How would they get from Burma to Ceylon?

John won't do that. He's going to shuttle troops from Burma to Thailand/Malaya. Whether that's the best thing to do is debatable, but I understand the thinking behind it. He's focused on the crisis territory. Anything beyond that (Burma, New Caledonia, etc.) is irrelevant right now. (Yes, Nemo, I realize irrelevant = opportunity).

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 6/25/2013 9:52:20 PM   
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One change to my missions orders. The TF going to Singers will be three fresh Fletcher-class under the command of Arleigh Burke. These guys are going into harm's way - mines and such. If I get Burke killed on his first big mission of the war, don't laugh.

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 6/25/2013 11:16:42 PM   
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One change to my missions orders. The TF going to Singers will be three fresh Fletcher-class under the command of Arleigh Burke. These guys are going into harm's way - mines and such. If I get Burke killed on his first big mission of the war, don't laugh.

Raiding is a great idea right now. The geography here might lead to some hefty surface actions in the future. Task forces running up and down the straits at night....both ways. I think you proved that old BB's are not much good for night ops and you bagged a bunch of CA's but I would not be surprised if you see BC/CA task forces making a run at your fleet some evenings. I know this you are paying Burke to sink ships but maybe save him for the knife fights

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 6/25/2013 11:19:57 PM   
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I'd love to put Burke in command of a TF comprised of South Dakota and Washington, but he's got to prove first that he's made of the right stuff. (IE, I've already entered the orders and sent the turn to John, so it's too late to do anything except have doubts.)

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 6/25/2013 11:35:15 PM   
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Can you build PT's yet? Might come in handy in those narrow waters...

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 6/25/2013 11:35:49 PM   
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Have you heard anything from John? He hasn't posted since yesterday. Here's hoping he's either he's tied up at work or consulting with JFBs wiser than me on the correct course of action.

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 6/25/2013 11:38:46 PM   
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Re: John. He's fine. He sent a turn early this morning (which I just finished and sent back to him). He's been at work all day - a longer day than he planned, so he'll probably be muttering dark things when he finally gets home. :)

Re: PT boats. Sabang is a British SE Asia base. I can convert it to USA for 80 PP (cheap!). I"ve already tested and learned that my PT boat inventory is low - I could only build one. So I'll wait for awhile and try again later. Meanswhile, 20 or so PT boats are enroute from Akyab. :)

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 6/26/2013 2:30:09 AM   
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Yeah, I think John brings his carriers and combat ships for the decisive battle. I agree.

But no matter what happens, I doubt John is going to recapture Sumatra. The Allies are going to end up with 500 to 750 AV at Sabang including tanks and SWPac HQ. The Allies have already gone toe-to-toe with the IJ airforce for months in Burma and have held their own. Veteran pilots from that campaign will be flying the best fighters available - I think the P-40K can stand up to anything. At sea, I think Allied combat seapower should be roughly equal to Japan (which has at least four BBs down or out now). The carriers are a wild card. Don't know how that ends up. But my early guess is that the Allies have too much, with relatively short LOCs to Ceylon and Assam. Even if things go sour for the Allies it should be months before John could close the chapter on this operation. I don't intend to lose, of course, and the Allies have a big headstart on Fortress Sabang.


Not going to disagree with anything you've said. However, the shortest LOC here is N. Sumatra to Singapore-John's LOC. Ceylon isn't exactly in your backyard. Nor is Perth. Assam is even further. All are subject to interdiction.

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 6/26/2013 2:57:44 AM   
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I don't think the equaiton works out that way as long as the current base configuration is in place.

I bet the KB comes west (south true) of Sumatra, as John won't want to transit narrow waters clogged with subs next to a level three airfield.

If he comes west of Sumatra, any battle takes place out in the open somewhere in the open reaches. Damaged Allies ships report to Diego and Colombo. Subs will be there, but there are many choices. Damaged Japanese ships probably don't chance the Malacca Straits, so they have to go back around Oosthaven and thence to Batavia or Singapore or Saigon or Manila.

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 6/26/2013 4:30:32 AM   
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Dan, the shortest LOS here is Medan to Singapore. It's shorter than Sabang to Ceylon. Whether or not you think it's as subject to interdiction is a matter of your strategic opinion. You can't argue distance on the map though.

The Malacca straits are quite shallow. Any player worth their salt has beaucoup naval search and ASW aircraft plying these choked waters. In such constrained circumstances, submarine warfare will be less effective. Upshot: even if choked with Allied subs, there may still be 'free' movement and reinforcement of the Japanese position.

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 6/26/2013 4:38:58 AM   
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11/14/42: D+4, Operation Des Wallace

A good day for the Allies. Excerpts from the combat report:


AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Nov 14, 42
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Invasion Support action off Langsa - 1st Marines still landing here. Much more needed (sealift of 27 Div. from Sabang may begin tomorrow).

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Invasion Support action off Sibolga - Lots more troops coming ashore at Sibolga, including those diverted from Padang.

The Dutch go on the offensive:

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Singapore at 50,84, Range 12,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
xAK Ayato Maru
xAK Chihaya Maru
xAK Jinshu Maru
xAK Kashiwara Maru, Shell hits 2
xAK Kuroshio Maru
xAK Meisho Maru
xAK Misaku Maru
xAK Neikai Maru
xAK Nittei Maru
xAK Otori Maru, Shell hits 3, heavy fires
xAK Ryugi Maru, Shell hits 6, and is sunk
xAK Ryujo Maru
xAK Sanuki Maru
xAK Sanura Maru
xAK Shoho Maru
xAK Taibun Maru, Shell hits 7, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Tatsuho Maru
xAK Tone Maru
xAK Uyo Maru
xAK Yuzan Maru, Shell hits 3, on fire
xAK Yamakisan Maru, Shell hits 6, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
xAK Yahiko Maru, Shell hits 13, and is sunk

Allied Ships
DD Isis

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Submarine attack near Sabang at 44,70

Japanese Ships
SSX Ha-43, hits 10, and is sunk - Four or five of these encounters at Sabang - three or four SSX sunk or heavil damaged.

Allied Ships
DM Preble
DM Tracy
DM Ramsay
DM Montgomery
DM Gamble
AM Skylark
DD Dent
PC Crawford
PC Kimball
DM Pruitt

Arleigh Burke proves his mettle as a leader of a combat patrol TF:

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Singapore at 50,84, Range 12,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
PB Shuko Maru #2, Shell hits 2, and is sunk
PB Shonon Maru #10, Shell hits 5, and is sunk
PB Showa Maru #3, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
xAK Syoto Maru, Shell hits 6
xAK Yamagiku Maru
xAK Yuzan Maru
xAK Nanko Maru, Shell hits 3, heavy fires
xAK Argun Maru, Shell hits 5, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Kosin Maru, Shell hits 6, heavy fires
xAK Kurohime Maru
xAK Ryuun Maru, Shell hits 1, on fire
xAK Daisin Maru, Shell hits 3, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
xAK Sugiyama Maru, Shell hits 24, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Tyoko Maru, Shell hits 19, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Hakusika Maru, Shell hits 32, and is sunk

Allied Ships
DD Fletcher
DD Nicholas
DD O'Bannon

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Submarine attack near Sabang at 44,70

Japanese Ships
SSX Ha-40, hits 11, and is sunk

Allied Ships
CLAA San Juan
DD Gridley
BB Washington
CA Northampton

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Night Naval bombardment of Langsa at 46,74

Allied Ships - Bombardment not particularly effective.
BB South Dakota
BB North Carolina
CA San Francisco

Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 8
Port hits 7

OS2U-3 Kingfisher acting as spotter for BB South Dakota
BB South Dakota firing at Langsa
BB North Carolina firing at Langsa
CA San Francisco firing at Imperial Guards Division

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ASW attack near Sabang at 44,70

Japanese Ships
SSX Ha-41, hits 5, heavy damage

Allied Ships
DD Napier

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Pre-Invasion action off Phuket (48,69) - Marine Raider detachment lands at vacant Phuket.

1 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied Ships
APD Waters

APD Waters fired at enemy troops
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 6,000 yards
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 1,000 yards


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Amphibious Assault at Phuket (48,69)

TF 257 troops unloading over beach at Phuket, 48,69

Allied ground losses:
69 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 11 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

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Amphibious Assault at Alor Star (49,73) - Turns out John is airlifting in troops, but the contingent is weak. An opportunity? We'll see.

TF 495 troops unloading over beach at Alor Star, 49,73

Allied ground losses:
Guns lost 1 (0 destroyed, 1 disabled)
Vehicles lost 2 (1 destroyed, 1 disabled)

75mm GMC Halftrack damaged beyond repair during unload of 762nd Tank Bn

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Amphibious Assault at Batoe-eilanden (43,82) - Infantry landing to take this island, which will be the last of the four off Sumatra's west coast.

TF 585 troops unloading over beach at Batoe-eilanden, 43,82

Allied ground losses:
55 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

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Amphibious Assault at Langkawi (49,72) - Landing at an undefended island near Alor Star.

TF 589 troops unloading over beach at Langkawi, 49,72

Allied ground losses:
264 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 40 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 14 (0 destroyed, 14 disabled)
Vehicles lost 15 (0 destroyed, 15 disabled)

10 troops of a Brit Inf Section lost overboard during unload of 18th British Div /3

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Amphibious Assault at Alor Star (49,73)

TF 600 troops unloading over beach at Alor Star, 49,73

Allied ground losses:
62 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 7 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 11 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 4 (0 destroyed, 4 disabled)
Vehicles lost 6 (0 destroyed, 6 disabled)

10 troops of a Brit Inf Section lost overboard during unload of 18th British Div /7

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Morning Air attack on Sabang , at 44,70

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 41 NM, estimated altitude 29,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 16

Allied aircraft
P-40K Warhawk x 32
F2A-3 Buffalo x 8
F4F-4 Wildcat x 32

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 6 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat: 1 destroyed

An encouraging first round. The P-40K is a robust fighter in the hands of good pilots. The Assam Air Force has graduated alot of good pilots.

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Alor Star at 49,73

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
B5N2 Kate x 7

Allied aircraft
P-38G Lightning x 6

No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
xAK Edgar Luckenbach
xAK Mormacsul

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Alor Star at 49,73

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 7 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 2 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 6

Allied aircraft
P-38G Lightning x 6

No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
AP Henderson


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Morning Air attack on Sabang , at 44,70

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 104 NM, estimated altitude 27,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 28 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 2

Allied aircraft
P-40K Warhawk x 31
F2A-3 Buffalo x 8
F4F-4 Wildcat x 27

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 1 destroyed

No Allied losses

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Morning Air attack on Port Blair , at 46,58

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 35 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 2
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 6

Allied aircraft
Liberator II x 6
B-24D Liberator x 3

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Liberator II: 1 damaged
B-24D Liberator: 2 damaged

No luck with the port attacks at Port Blair today.

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Morning Air attack on Port Blair , at 46,58

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 6 NM, estimated altitude 20,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 1 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 2
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 3

Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 3

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-24D Liberator: 1 damaged

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Morning Air attack on 1st RTA/C Division, at 60,44 , near Shwebo

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 21 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Allied aircraft
A-29 Hudson x 14

Allied aircraft losses
A-29 Hudson: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
43 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)

One of a handful of attacks vs. an RTA Divisionin the open. The Allies also bombed 18th Div. in the jungle, with minimal effect. The Japanese hit some of the Allied troops in the open. I had configured major LRCAP and sweeps, but not a single fighter flew. Weather, I suppose.

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Morning Air attack on 18th Division, at 55,47 , near Akyab

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 4,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 26

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
8 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


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Morning Air attack on 18th Division, at 55,47 , near Akyab

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 17 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Allied aircraft
A-20A1 Havoc x 3
B-25C Mitchell x 12

Allied aircraft losses
A-20A1 Havoc: 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
19 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

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Morning Air attack on 1st RTA/C Division, at 60,44 , near Shwebo

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 28 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Allied aircraft
A-29 Hudson x 10

Allied aircraft losses
A-29 Hudson: 9 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
33 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

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Morning Air attack on Rangoon , at 54,53

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 16 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 14

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-48-IIa Lily: 1 destroyed on ground
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 5 damaged

Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 11

Effective for such a small raid. I think Rangoon airfield is currently around 25% to 30% damaged.
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Afternoon Air attack on Ramree Island , at 54,48

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 12 NM, estimated altitude 29,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 32

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIc Trop x 7

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIc Trop: 1 destroyed

Not used to seeing a small fighter force get the best of a much larger Tojo force.

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Alor Star at 49,73

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 14 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
B5N2 Kate x 7

Allied aircraft
P-38G Lightning x 6

No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
xAK San Vincente
xAK Edgar Luckenbach, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage

Allied ground losses:
Vehicles lost 8 (4 destroyed, 4 disabled)


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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Langkawi at 49,72

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 8
G4M1 Betty x 6

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Procyon
AP J. Franklin Bell

I don't like exposing these kinds of ships, but speed outweighs everything right now.

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Alor Star at 49,73

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 15 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
D3A2 Val x 18

Allied aircraft
P-38G Lightning x 6

No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
AP Henderson, Bomb hits 1
AK Castor, Bomb hits 2, on fire

I'll try to get these guys back to Sabang ASAP.

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Mergui at 52,62

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 2 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 0 minutes

Japanese aircraft
B5N2 Kate x 8

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
DD Inconstant

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 13000 feet
Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb


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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Siberoet at 42,85

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 12 NM, estimated altitude 4,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-Ic Sally x 6

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
xAK Bucegi
xAK Centaur

The Allies still have some ships down "south" - near Padang, plus pickets well offshore. I sure hope the KB isn't able to sneak by.... I'm beginning to think those carriers could pop up any day, but in all likelihood it may be four to six more. But I am playing it safe on that side of Sumatra. Expose merchant ships - yes. Expose carriers and big combat ships - no.
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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Langkawi at 49,72

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 15 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
D3A2 Val x 2

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
xAK Vera, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires

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ASW attack near Sabang at 44,70

Japanese Ships
SSX Ha-42, hits 2, heavy damage

Allied Ships
DD Napier

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Invasion Support action off Alor Star (49,73)

3 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied Ships
xAK Mormacsul
xAK San Vincente

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Invasion Support action off Langkawi (49,72)

Allied Ships
AK Procyon
AP J. Franklin Bell

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Invasion Support action off Langkawi (49,72)
Defensive Guns engage approaching landing force

1 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied Ships
xAK Lihue

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Invasion Support action off Alor Star (49,73)
Defensive Guns engage approaching landing force

5 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied Ships
AP Henderson

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Ground combat at Sibolga (44,79) - The Allies need to take this base, but I suspect my troops will need more rest.

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 3164 troops, 24 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 113

Defending force 7636 troops, 195 guns, 161 vehicles, Assault Value = 271

Japanese ground losses:
6 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
16th Naval Guard Unit
91st Naval Guard Unit
4th Ind. Engineer Regiment

Defending units:
145th Infantry Regiment
129th Infantry Regiment
34th Combat Engineer Regiment
148th Infantry Regiment
58th (Sep) Infantry Rgt /5
9th Marine Rgt /5
21st Marine Rgt /3
E Det USN Port Svc
175th USAAF Base Force /4
A Det USN Port Svc
110th USA Base Force /5
205th FA Bn /4

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Ground combat at 55,47 (near Akyab) - This probing attack in the jungle doesn't reveal anything promising.

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 20135 troops, 308 guns, 495 vehicles, Assault Value = 608

Defending force 14295 troops, 168 guns, 74 vehicles, Assault Value = 468

Allied adjusted assault: 468

Japanese adjusted defense: 1105

Allied assault odds: 1 to 2

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), fatigue(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
436 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 39 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled
Guns lost 35 (7 destroyed, 28 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
416 casualties reported
Squads: 47 destroyed, 67 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 12 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 12 disabled
Guns lost 14 (2 destroyed, 12 disabled)

Assaulting units:
1st Gloucestershire Battalion
6th British Brigade
4th British Brigade
1st USMC Tank Battalion
19th Indian Division
2nd Recce Regiment
Eastern Army
198th Coast AA Regiment
134th Field Artillery Battalion

Defending units:
18th Division
8th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
10th RF Gun Battalion

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Ground combat at Sibolga (44,79)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 5392 troops, 173 guns, 122 vehicles, Assault Value = 271

Defending force 3891 troops, 27 guns, 8 vehicles, Assault Value = 112

Japanese ground losses:
25 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
34th Combat Engineer Regiment
148th Infantry Regiment
58th (Sep) Infantry Rgt /5
9th Marine Rgt /5
129th Infantry Regiment
145th Infantry Regiment
21st Marine Rgt /3
110th USA Base Force /5
A Det USN Port Svc
E Det USN Port Svc
175th USAAF Base Force /4
205th FA Bn /4

Defending units:
16th Naval Guard Unit
91st Naval Guard Unit
4th Ind. Engineer Regiment

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Ground combat at 44,71 (near Sabang) - Tanks fail to roll up the small enemy infantry that retired from Sabang. I need more - again, drat.

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 955 troops, 0 guns, 163 vehicles, Assault Value = 99

Defending force 2647 troops, 23 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 63

Allied adjusted assault: 22

Japanese adjusted defense: 42

Allied assault odds: 1 to 2

Combat modifiers
Defender: leaders(+), disruption(-), experience(-)
Attacker: op mode(-), shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
114 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 13 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
Vehicles lost 23 (1 destroyed, 22 disabled)

Assaulting units:
763rd Tank Battalion
2nd USMC Tank Battalion

Defending units:
10th Garrison Unit
Imperial Guards Div /1

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Ground combat at Alor Star (49,73) - John is airlifting Imperial Guards from Port Blair to here, there, everywhere. The Allies have a chance here if I move fast to reinforce and if John doesn't. I'm going to try, but I bet John's able to stop me.

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 337 troops, 5 guns, 1 vehicles, Assault Value = 21

Defending force 685 troops, 65 guns, 49 vehicles, Assault Value = 26

Allied ground losses:
Guns lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)

Assaulting units:
Imperial Guards Div /3
10th Indpt SNLF Coy /1

Defending units:
762nd Tank Bn /1
18th British Div /8

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 6/26/2013 4:44:52 AM   
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quote:

If he can read a map, why was Sumatra and vicinity undefended?


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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 6/26/2013 4:48:42 AM   
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Andre (Chickenboy), I realize the straight line distance. I know Singers is much closer than Allied ports. But I'm talking about practical and likely vectors. I'm going to watch the Malacca Straits, of course, but I'm 95% sure John doesn't send his carriers up that way. If he sends them up the west side of Sumatra, I'm 80% sure he doesn't send badly damaged ships through those straits. They are choked with subs. Yes, John can fill the skies with ASW (he's totally stood them down, no doubt temporarily, to focus on what he regards as more important duty). I just don't see John steering a moderately damaged CV or BB past level 3 airfield Sabang into tight waters packed with subs. He might surprise me, but I'd wager he sends them through the Sunda Straits or Soerabaja.

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 6/26/2013 5:13:49 AM   
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A couple questions on your combat reports:

quote:

Pre-Invasion action off Phuket (48,69) - Marine Raider detachment lands at vacant Phuket.

1 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied Ships
APD Waters

APD Waters fired at enemy troops
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 6,000 yards
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 1,000 yards


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Amphibious Assault at Phuket (48,69)

TF 257 troops unloading over beach at Phuket, 48,69

Allied ground losses:
69 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 11 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


You mention that it is vacant, but it is showing coastal gun fire. I thought that you would only receive fire if there were a unit there? What is recon showing?

quote:

Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Alor Star at 49,73

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 15 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
D3A2 Val x 18

Allied aircraft
P-38G Lightning x 6

No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
AP Henderson, Bomb hits 1
AK Castor, Bomb hits 2, on fire

I'll try to get these guys back to Sabang ASAP.

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Mergui at 52,62

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 2 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 0 minutes

Japanese aircraft
B5N2 Kate x 8

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
DD Inconstant

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 13000 feet
Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb



I noticed Vals and Kates in these reports (and at least one other with Kates), do you think these are land-based squadrons, or has he staged some of his carrier groups to local bases? Or does he have a couple CV/CVL close enough to be using them ahead of his main body?


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