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Feedback
Here is some feedback on the game so far.
First off, let me say I am having great fun with this. Just a couple of minor points:
1. I cannot get used to the Russians in grey. Please change!
2. It would be good to be able to see the original borders rather than just the fluid borders (which i really like by the way). Some sort of toggle button would be good.
3. Need an undo button - unless I've missed it....
First off, let me say I am having great fun with this. Just a couple of minor points:
1. I cannot get used to the Russians in grey. Please change!
2. It would be good to be able to see the original borders rather than just the fluid borders (which i really like by the way). Some sort of toggle button would be good.
3. Need an undo button - unless I've missed it....
Now Maitland, now's your time!
Duke of Wellington to 1st Guards Brigade - Waterloo 18 June 1815
Duke of Wellington to 1st Guards Brigade - Waterloo 18 June 1815
RE: Feedback
1 & 3 should be addressed in a patch.
2: You mean original nation's borderlines? They're marked with darkened hex edges. Perhaps the effect is too subtle with hex grid on?
2: You mean original nation's borderlines? They're marked with darkened hex edges. Perhaps the effect is too subtle with hex grid on?
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RE: Feedback
Hi all, Keep in mind I just bought game this a few hours ago.
I find the movement system is something I have to get used to. There is no ingremental movement alowed.For example if you activate a unit and the map displays you may move that unit 5 hexs then you click and move it 2, thats it, that unit is done, no more movement. Along with the inability to move after firing makes things difficult, IMHO.
I am not saying this is wrong and these very issues may be what gives the game a WWI feel. Move, fire, move would probably feel like WWII.
I would love to see 'SOME' diplomacy a little arm twisting for flavor, so far I haven't found any. Also a multi-hex attack option.
Anyway a lot of effort has obviously gone into this game, I like the look and feel so far ... all the best to everyone involved!
I find the movement system is something I have to get used to. There is no ingremental movement alowed.For example if you activate a unit and the map displays you may move that unit 5 hexs then you click and move it 2, thats it, that unit is done, no more movement. Along with the inability to move after firing makes things difficult, IMHO.
I am not saying this is wrong and these very issues may be what gives the game a WWI feel. Move, fire, move would probably feel like WWII.
I would love to see 'SOME' diplomacy a little arm twisting for flavor, so far I haven't found any. Also a multi-hex attack option.
Anyway a lot of effort has obviously gone into this game, I like the look and feel so far ... all the best to everyone involved!
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RE: Feedback
warspite1ORIGINAL: Lukas
1 & 3 should be addressed in a patch.
2: You mean original nation's borderlines? They're marked with darkened hex edges. Perhaps the effect is too subtle with hex grid on?
Lukas - good news about 1 + 3.
Re 2 - yes, the difference is too subtle - at least for my rubbish eyesight.... It definitely needs something (I think a toggle button so that you can check every now and then by means of say thick black lines).
Now Maitland, now's your time!
Duke of Wellington to 1st Guards Brigade - Waterloo 18 June 1815
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RE: Feedback
I haven't bought the game yet but from the screenshots I'd agree with Russian unit counters needing a different color and the original borders needing to be darker for older players eyes.[;)]
My major issues(though its not gonna stop me buying the game later today[:D])is the GERMAN FLAG! Why in heavens name is not the Imperial Battle Flag used to represent Imperial Germany?
My major issues(though its not gonna stop me buying the game later today[:D])is the GERMAN FLAG! Why in heavens name is not the Imperial Battle Flag used to represent Imperial Germany?
RE: Feedback
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Love the sound effects - wife just gone out so put up LOUD. Nice! [;)]
Love the sound effects - wife just gone out so put up LOUD. Nice! [;)]
Now Maitland, now's your time!
Duke of Wellington to 1st Guards Brigade - Waterloo 18 June 1815
Duke of Wellington to 1st Guards Brigade - Waterloo 18 June 1815
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The music theme works very well!
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Yes some nice design decisions... my concerns from post two about movement are now OK... I am getting use to it and it indeed gives more of a WWI feel. The swapping position option with neighboring units is very nice.
One thing I have a problem with is crossing the channel... ([turn 1 embark only] [turn 2 move] [ turn 3 disembark only]) At 2 week turns its 6 weeks till land and 8 weeks till you are moving again. (Constructive criticism only). Maybe half movement after embarking or disembarking. ( I'm not sure. )
anyway thanks again...
One thing I have a problem with is crossing the channel... ([turn 1 embark only] [turn 2 move] [ turn 3 disembark only]) At 2 week turns its 6 weeks till land and 8 weeks till you are moving again. (Constructive criticism only). Maybe half movement after embarking or disembarking. ( I'm not sure. )
anyway thanks again...
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RE: Feedback
This is a great game. I can't put it down!
I love:
Simple to play, yet strategically deep. Very tense decision making the whole way through
AI plays in a believable and intelligent way, much more-so than most other wargames
The game feels very balanced...more experience needed to truly judge that of course
Visuals and audio are excellent, immersive
The ammo mechanic is brilliant...saving it up and using multiple artillery batteries to make a breakthrough in the line feels amazing. Running low is stressful
Attention to historical detail with the writing and events, introduction
Couple things I would change/fix:
I'm fine with no movement after attacking, that feels right. But not being able to use movement points step by step feels very limiting. It makes using a sub and scouting into the fog especially painful.
When holding down LMB to drag the map while a unit is selected, it will move when I let go of the button. Once the map moves it should not register as a movement command as well.
I would LOVE an undo command ( assuming no fog was revealed ) for those times I misclick ( use case tends to be rolling over many hexes looking at combat odds and then deciding to click the map to deselect forgetting it will move. Something I will get used to, but a little extra help is always a good thing )
Show commanders stats in the pop-up when they become available...I often don't have them memorized and suddenly have to make a decision with no info! ( or if Im missing some workaround to this, make that more obvious )
"Are you sure?" popup when cancelling focus...I have done that by accident twice now and lost my focus completely until a new round of research.
Tooltip for having to press control to swap places would be good for new players, I spent a lot of time figuring that one out ( was too lazy to look it up during the excitement of a game )
A reminder icon in the research tab to tell me I have unused focus
A reminder icon in the production tab to tell me I have troops ready ( or a reminder popup end of round like the one that comes up if you dont move an empires units )
So basically a lot of minor usability items...
I love:
Simple to play, yet strategically deep. Very tense decision making the whole way through
AI plays in a believable and intelligent way, much more-so than most other wargames
The game feels very balanced...more experience needed to truly judge that of course
Visuals and audio are excellent, immersive
The ammo mechanic is brilliant...saving it up and using multiple artillery batteries to make a breakthrough in the line feels amazing. Running low is stressful
Attention to historical detail with the writing and events, introduction
Couple things I would change/fix:
I'm fine with no movement after attacking, that feels right. But not being able to use movement points step by step feels very limiting. It makes using a sub and scouting into the fog especially painful.
When holding down LMB to drag the map while a unit is selected, it will move when I let go of the button. Once the map moves it should not register as a movement command as well.
I would LOVE an undo command ( assuming no fog was revealed ) for those times I misclick ( use case tends to be rolling over many hexes looking at combat odds and then deciding to click the map to deselect forgetting it will move. Something I will get used to, but a little extra help is always a good thing )
Show commanders stats in the pop-up when they become available...I often don't have them memorized and suddenly have to make a decision with no info! ( or if Im missing some workaround to this, make that more obvious )
"Are you sure?" popup when cancelling focus...I have done that by accident twice now and lost my focus completely until a new round of research.
Tooltip for having to press control to swap places would be good for new players, I spent a lot of time figuring that one out ( was too lazy to look it up during the excitement of a game )
A reminder icon in the research tab to tell me I have unused focus
A reminder icon in the production tab to tell me I have troops ready ( or a reminder popup end of round like the one that comes up if you dont move an empires units )
So basically a lot of minor usability items...
RE: Feedback
Having just finished an AAR as the Allies, I thought I would note some of the things I came across:
First off congratulations team on a really fun game. I am really pleased I took the plunge. The game looks really nice and plays well. Just a few things (in no particular order):
1. The reason I gave up and did not finish off Turkey is because I would have needed to order each unit each turn to go long distances. Is it possible to have a memory like with CIV where you give a unit a path and he follows it until he comes across the enemy?
2. AI. I don't think the AI was bad but a few things were off. The Bulgarians appeared everywhere, as did a few Turks. I'm not too worried about gameyness, but from a commonsense perspective, the home country should have the bulk of its units defending its own country or interests. What happened instead? Sofia was completely unguarded - there was not one Bulgarian in the country evn though Romania's entry was imminent.
3. AI. Again a few cases (not many though) where individual units went off and got themselves out of supply and surrounded.
4. A few tiimes the city did not change colour when ownership passed - hopefully cosmetic and nothing more serious like the ownership not actually changing.
5. Must have an undo button
6. Should have an ability to move, stop and then move again (if within movement range).
First off congratulations team on a really fun game. I am really pleased I took the plunge. The game looks really nice and plays well. Just a few things (in no particular order):
1. The reason I gave up and did not finish off Turkey is because I would have needed to order each unit each turn to go long distances. Is it possible to have a memory like with CIV where you give a unit a path and he follows it until he comes across the enemy?
2. AI. I don't think the AI was bad but a few things were off. The Bulgarians appeared everywhere, as did a few Turks. I'm not too worried about gameyness, but from a commonsense perspective, the home country should have the bulk of its units defending its own country or interests. What happened instead? Sofia was completely unguarded - there was not one Bulgarian in the country evn though Romania's entry was imminent.
3. AI. Again a few cases (not many though) where individual units went off and got themselves out of supply and surrounded.
4. A few tiimes the city did not change colour when ownership passed - hopefully cosmetic and nothing more serious like the ownership not actually changing.
5. Must have an undo button
6. Should have an ability to move, stop and then move again (if within movement range).
Now Maitland, now's your time!
Duke of Wellington to 1st Guards Brigade - Waterloo 18 June 1815
Duke of Wellington to 1st Guards Brigade - Waterloo 18 June 1815
RE: Feedback
After reading warpsites excellent AAR it seems the German Army could do with some beefing up. Having heard people struggle from the CP point of views aswell it probably isn't an AI issue. I think it may need looking at. Not sure what it is but I feel it needs abi more work somehwere to make it play like WW1 rather than a mix of WW1 and WW2 which is how it felt not long into Warspiets AAR.
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Seems to me that 1 AAR and some initial word of mouth feedback is a rather small sample to go and make game changes over. Not saying something doesn't need tweaking,just that the jury is still out on this. On a plus side of things i now know what side to pick for my first foray into the game. Central powers here i come..........
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#3 Undo button - must have in an early patch.
My workaround is to reload the autosave and play the turn the same way, but that gets time consuming
My workaround is to reload the autosave and play the turn the same way, but that gets time consuming
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Pizzaspy - +1 from me.
You hit all the niggly little things I was going to post about. Especially the Focus thing
Also agree with the 'I love' paragraph in the same post.
Great game that I don't have to read a huge manual to play
You hit all the niggly little things I was going to post about. Especially the Focus thing
Also agree with the 'I love' paragraph in the same post.
Great game that I don't have to read a huge manual to play
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An undo button would be great.
As for balancing, I think it is really good. The CP have to take out one or two of their enemies, or they will go down before 1918.
The plyer can do this easily enough, but the AI may need some help to decide to prioritize taking out the Serbians...
As for balancing, I think it is really good. The CP have to take out one or two of their enemies, or they will go down before 1918.
The plyer can do this easily enough, but the AI may need some help to decide to prioritize taking out the Serbians...
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Not sure what new I can say after beta testing for a year.
Oh yeah, I paid FULL PRICE, never thought of taking the kind offer of a discount for beta testers.
Oh yeah, I paid FULL PRICE, never thought of taking the kind offer of a discount for beta testers.
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RE: Feedback
ORIGINAL: warspite1
Re 2 - yes, the difference is too subtle - at least for my rubbish eyesight.... It definitely needs something (I think a toggle button so that you can check every now and then by means of say thick black lines).
A toggle would be ideal as I like the lighter hexside coloring as it is. If it were darker, it'd be easily mistaken for the front line and add more clutter to the map. [:-]
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Feedback on playing the CP.
The AI seemed to put too much emphasis on Egypt. My Turks coud not make a real impression - the British had loads of units - Infantry and Garrison, but also an artillery. That of course is fine except there was too little to stop the Germans in France.
I think the AI needs to be programmed to save France first and foremost.
Generally
Playing CP was just as much fun - though different types of warfare - as playing the Entente. I absolutely love this game - money well spent!
The AI seemed to put too much emphasis on Egypt. My Turks coud not make a real impression - the British had loads of units - Infantry and Garrison, but also an artillery. That of course is fine except there was too little to stop the Germans in France.
I think the AI needs to be programmed to save France first and foremost.
Generally
Playing CP was just as much fun - though different types of warfare - as playing the Entente. I absolutely love this game - money well spent!
Now Maitland, now's your time!
Duke of Wellington to 1st Guards Brigade - Waterloo 18 June 1815
Duke of Wellington to 1st Guards Brigade - Waterloo 18 June 1815
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RE: Feedback
ORIGINAL: warspite1
Feedback on playing the CP.
The AI seemed to put too much emphasis on Egypt. My Turks coud not make a real impression - the British had loads of units - Infantry and Garrison, but also an artillery. That of course is fine except there was too little to stop the Germans in France.
I think the AI needs to be programmed to save France first and foremost.
Generally
Playing CP was just as much fun - though different types of warfare - as playing the Entente. I absolutely love this game - money well spent!
Warspite, just curious if you have tried playing on the most difficult levels yet? Wondering if that would help enhance the AI.
RE: Feedback
warspite1ORIGINAL: Grim.Reaper
ORIGINAL: warspite1
Feedback on playing the CP.
The AI seemed to put too much emphasis on Egypt. My Turks coud not make a real impression - the British had loads of units - Infantry and Garrison, but also an artillery. That of course is fine except there was too little to stop the Germans in France.
I think the AI needs to be programmed to save France first and foremost.
Generally
Playing CP was just as much fun - though different types of warfare - as playing the Entente. I absolutely love this game - money well spent!
Warspite, just curious if you have tried playing on the most difficult levels yet? Wondering if that would help enhance the AI.
No, I've just done the mid-level dificulty. I will have a crack at this though. Not looking forward to playing the Russians on that level [X(]
Now Maitland, now's your time!
Duke of Wellington to 1st Guards Brigade - Waterloo 18 June 1815
Duke of Wellington to 1st Guards Brigade - Waterloo 18 June 1815