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RE: Bob Flemin's AAR se! - 11/17/2012 3:37:41 PM   
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Looks like the tide is turning in your favour

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RE: Bob Flemin's AAR se! - 11/17/2012 3:44:21 PM   
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Turn 59 - 14th September 1916

Northern Russia

The German and AH units make no effort to attack, but simply fall back on Koenigsberg.. a good sign. I get carried away and not only attack the AH Infantry, but advance when it retreats.... My confidence was misplaced and there is a 10-strength Infantry in the Prussian port

Romania

I advance with Army Group Chisnau and try and surround a seemingly lone German. Turns out he has a Bulgarian chum tagging along too. I attack the Bulgarian and an expensive 2-2 result ensues.

In the south, figuring that the Bulgarians can't be everywhere, I advance with two Infantry toward Sofia.

Serbia

I land a Portugese Infanry north of Cattaro and use the French battlefleet to bombard a Bulgarian in the next hex.

Italy

I continue to attack both north and east toward Trieste. The attacks are reasonably successful and the Germans continue to take losses.

France

The BEF are now just outside Antwerp and 2 hexes from Brussels. The French still struggle to make any impression further south, but that's okay - just being there means the Germans can't abandon their positions opposite the French to halt the British.





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RE: Bob Flemin's AAR se! - 11/17/2012 4:14:25 PM   
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Turn 60 - 28th September 1916

Quality, absolute quality play on show there warspite

Seeing the Turks withdraw from Tiflis, I decided to advance.... oh good grief, can I play this theatre any more poorly??

Let's move to better news...

I pull back in the north behind the river west of Kovno. A German Army has pitched up camp outside Vinnytsia.

Romania

Three Bulgarians Infantry Armies and one German are now north and west of Iasi. I try and form a line, but there are no rivers to assist.....

I count at least four Bulgarians outside their country though, so I continue the march to Sofia with my two Romanian Infantry.

Serbia

Nothing to report.

Italy

I continue the march east toward Trieste, while screening the Germans in the north.

France

Brussels is re-captured!! I fail to remove the strong German unit south of Antwerp and so expect a ferocious counter-attack, but good news - even if temporary.






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RE: Bob Flemin's AAR se! - 11/17/2012 4:41:27 PM   
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Turn 61 - 12th October 1916

I'm in all sorts of trouble in Russia....all self inflicted.. what an a%^&*^%!!

But it gets worse... my Army Group Varna arrives chez Sofia and I tentitively advance with one unit to test the strength in Sofia. I find nothing there, but then, accidently stop my second unit one hex short of the Bulgarian capital!!! AAARRRRGGGHHHH

Serbia

In better news, my Infantry arrives and, because Belgrade and environs is not properly sealed off, I am able to place in a hex southwest of the capital.

Italy

I lost an Infantry last turn which wasn't clever, but is going to happen if I try and open up the front. I'm looking a little stretched in the north so pull back one hex to be safe.

France

The British push northeast but resistance is stiffening. I need to get the French involved. I lose my French aircraft, but he takes a strength point off a German Army in dying and that helps me push into a gap north of Verdun.





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RE: Bob Flemin's AAR se! - 11/17/2012 5:05:17 PM   
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Turn 62 - 26th October 1916

I am being outflanked east and west around Brest-Litovsk so just hunker down and hope....

Romania

Better news here. I destroy or force to retreat, one of the Bulgarian units. I then take the capital Sofia with one Infantry and move on Skopje with the other. No Bulgarian production for a while at least

Serbia

I lost the Portugese Infantry - a bit of a rubbish operation all things considered

Italy

Reducing the Infantry in Trieste is painfully slow, but not helped by a German Garrison next door that appears invulnerable....

Need to be careful as there are three powerful German units in the north still.

France

Antwerp still holds out, but the British and French continue to make ground. Only concern is that all armies are running low on strength points





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RE: Bob Flemin's AAR se! - 11/17/2012 5:12:14 PM   
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Turn 63 - 9th November 1916

Russia is a basket case. I just hope what is happening in the west will mean the AI decides to divert troops...






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RE: Bob Flemin's AAR se! - 11/17/2012 5:23:27 PM   
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Hmmm..your now well ahead of schedule on the Western front, which brings concerns about how fragile the German front was. I'd want a WW1 game to at least hold me back until mid to late '17 in making a successful breakthrough and the previous attacks been to weaken them for the main breakthrough in mid 17 onwards.

If you end up storming the Western front now and pushing on into Germany it would certainly for me bring into question the game being able to recreate WW1.

Historically the Germans where well into Russia and the Ukraine and still holding back any attacks on the West Front.

Others are say as the germans it's very tough. Maybe the CP need some work in patches to give them some more staying power\clout.

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RE: Bob Flemin's AAR se! - 11/17/2012 5:30:04 PM   
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Turn 63 - 9th November 1916 (cont)

Romania

I have got myself slightly out of position, but I think worth it because I could destroy a Bulgarian Infantry that is not coming back

Serbia

The Romanians take Skopje and are closing on Nis. The Serb Infantry next to Belgrade continues to take lumps out of an AH Garrison.

Italy

Italian Infantry take Trieste and now threaten Zagreb. Only two German units in the north and I attempt to outflank these units.

France and Belgium

The Germans abandon their line in front of Strassburg, but the French cannot make a line of their own because I make a mistake and their is no undo button However, the German position surely is desperate? isn't it?..please?






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RE: Bob Flemin's AAR se! - 11/17/2012 5:56:08 PM   
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Turn 64 - 23rd November 1916

I'm so depressed about Russia, I start in the west this time

France

Antwerp falls, Brussels is secure and Vedun is surrounded. Good work boys!

Italy

I form two separate army groups - West, to Isolate Trento, and East to take Zagreb.

Serbia

Its like the United Nations! Romanians and Italians vs Turks; Serbs and Italians vs Turks; Romanians vs Germans and Sers vs AH....

Romania

I send an infantry north to assist Army Group Chisnau, leaving a Garrison in Bucharest. The two Infantry armies continue on their missions; one to take Nis, where it runs into a German aircraft and Skopje, and the other to attack the Turks menacing Tirana.

Russia

I pull back everything toward Vilna - what a piggin' mess

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RE: Bob Flemin's AAR se! - 11/17/2012 6:17:47 PM   
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Turn 65 - 7th December 1916

Southern Russia

The Turks heading north from Batumi have run into my Garrisons, who give them a bloody nose

Northern Russia

I continue the pull back and destroy the AH unit that got itself out of supply....

Serbia

The Romanians re-capture Nis. I hold fire in the north and launch attacks against the Turks with little effect.

Romania

This is a bit untidy now, I hold fire and repair what I can.

Italy

I continue with the current objectives but slow progress.

France

Tanks!!

I consolidate my gains and wait for some cash to replace losses....

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RE: Bob Flemin's AAR se! - 11/17/2012 6:35:05 PM   
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Turn 66 - 21st December 1916

Southern Russia

Fighting continues south of Krasnodar/Stavropol as the Turks retreat.

Northern Russia

Less than a dozen units left now. I try and hold the river line Riga-Kovno-Vilna as besti can...

Romania

Stil a mess - but manageable I think... for now.

Serbia

Nothing to report

Italy

Army Group East has Zagreb covered from 3 sides.

Army Group West is slowly closing the net over Trento.

France

The German army in Verdun escaped, but has taken a pounding while trying to get back to its lines.

The British are in no fit state to do anything....


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RE: Bob Flemin's AAR se! - 11/17/2012 6:55:02 PM   
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Turn 67 - 4th January 1917

Southern Russia

The advantage swings one way and then the other! God knows what's going on...

Northern Russia

Its more of the same... Come on boys..hold on.

Romania

I get an Infantry this turn which I use to bolster Army Group Chisnau.

Serbia

The Romanians remove a Turkish Garrison from the game.

Arabia

I have a load of rebels...oookkkaaayyyy

Italy

Zagreb holds on just....

Ditto Trento.....

France

I bring the French tanks into battle for the first time, opening up the hex southwest of Verdun.


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RE: Bob Flemin's AAR se! - 11/17/2012 7:02:34 PM   
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Turn 68 - 18th January 1917

Southern Russia

The situation continues to evolve but essentially goes one way and then the other - neither side strong enough to make a decisive move.






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RE: Bob Flemin's AAR se! - 11/17/2012 7:06:11 PM   
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Turn 68 - 18th January 1917 (cont)

Northern Russia

Its a race against time - can the Russians hold on long enough for the western Allies to defeat the Axis?






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RE: Bob Flemin's AAR se! - 11/17/2012 7:11:09 PM   
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Turn 68 - 18th January 1917 (cont)

Romania / Serbia

Another fluid situation....




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RE: Bob Flemin's AAR se! - 11/17/2012 7:20:21 PM   
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Turn 68 - 18th January 1917 (cont)

France / Italy

The British advance has stalled while they make good losses, but the French have taken up the reins.

Zagreb has now fallen and Trento will follow shortly (hopefully)...







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RE: Bob Flemin's AAR se! - 11/17/2012 8:02:23 PM   
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Turn 69 - 1st February 1917

Southern Russia

The Russians nmove into postion to make another attempt to re-take Sarikamish...

Northern Russia

More of the same - retreat, re-group, retreat, pray - PRAY!!

Romania

Still a closely contested battle around Iasi. I hope to be in a position to bring the two infantry armies in Serbia back to assist soon...

Serbia

Mopping up operations continue...

Italy

A little concerning - Zagreb is not safe yet and the Germans have brought in the heavy mob to save Trento - I was perhaps a little careless here.

France

Both Britain and France have their tanks on the battlefield - I am hoping for good things from these units.

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RE: Bob Flemin's AAR se! - 11/17/2012 8:25:32 PM   
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Turn 70 - 15th February 1917

Russia (north and south) - no change.

Romania

I place a new Garrison next to Bucharest, and an Infantry with the main forces at Iasi. I then set about repair of units

Serbia

The last of the Turkish units has almost gone as my Serbo-Italian Army push north.

Italy

I try and consolidate around Zagreb, while Trento at last falls

France

The British tanks are brought into play! Although the Germans have re-taken Brussels, the unit is surrounded.





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RE: Bob Flemin's AAR se! - 11/17/2012 8:48:32 PM   
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Turn 71 - 1st March 1917

France/Belgium

Troops are thin on the ground now, but the Allies edge closer to Germany. In the north Liege is almost surrounded, while in the south the German line does not reach Switzerland.

Italy

Italy's push north and the drive east have both been stalled for a few turns now, but the enemy seems thin on the ground.

Serbia

The Alied forces are three hexes from joining up with Belgrade.

Romania

Army Group Chisnau is looking in a much better position - the Bulgarian Infantry have been seemingly wiped out.

Russia

No change.

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RE: Bob Flemin's AAR se! - 11/17/2012 9:05:47 PM   
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Turn 72 - 15th March 1917

Russia - no change - except in so far as how far the Russians have been pushed back

Romania - The Romanians are trying to put the German Infantry out of supply ahead of an attack.

Serbia - a land bridge has been created linking Belgrade with the south of the country.

Italy - No change. I continue to attack the enemy to whittle away his strength.

France - The Allies try and straighten their lines - the lack of units on the ground is reaching critical levels.

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RE: Bob Flemin's AAR se! - 11/17/2012 9:14:32 PM   
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Turn 73 - 29th March 1917

Russia - I have lost my positions around Vilna now....






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RE: Bob Flemin's AAR se! - 11/17/2012 9:21:57 PM   
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Turn 73 - 29th March 1917 (cont)

On the Romanian Front, I have destroyed a couple of Bulgarians and taken an AH city in so doing. In the South, my various units have joined up to march northwest in the coming turns.

Serbia stays in the games still thanks to help from the Italians.






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RE: Bob Flemin's AAR se! - 11/17/2012 9:26:44 PM   
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This is a great AAR and has me about ready to purchase myself. Just curious if there is a screen that shows your progress towards winning the game, I believe in another thread it mentioned something like a management screen. Would be interested to see how things stand and what the morale is of all countries engaged. Again, great stuff your producing here!

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RE: Bob Flemin's AAR se! - 11/17/2012 9:31:37 PM   
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Turn 73 - 29th March 1917 (cont)

On the western front the Italians and French push to link up, while the British try and liquidiate the Liege pocket.






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RE: Bob Flemin's AAR se! - 11/17/2012 9:34:55 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Grim.Reaper

This is a great AAR and has me about ready to purchase myself. Just curious if there is a screen that shows your progress towards winning the game, I believe in another thread it mentioned something like a management screen. Would be interested to see how things stand and what the morale is of all countries engaged. Again, great stuff your producing here!
warspite1

I'm learning as I go and I don't know if there is one or not. However, Lord Zimoa, Lukas and Myrddraal have been excellent in answering questions as I go along so hopefully they will let us know if/when they see this.

Btw - thanks for the kind comments.

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RE: Bob Flemin's AAR se! - 11/17/2012 9:54:54 PM   
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Considering this is a first go I unconvinced that the game is that good at replicating WW1..especially how weak the Germans appear. I'd have been very impressed if the Germans had either 1, Taken Paris near the beginning which would show it will take an experienced player to hold them back or 2, At least hold the line until late '17 or even better until sometime in 18 or 19..Looks like the allies will win the War and the Americans haven't even come into it yet, not that they had much impact combat wise in the war but they did force Germany into the mass attack in '18 where they threw their all in and failed thus leaving them weak enough for the allies to hit them hard. If the game got to '19 I'd expect the American forces strong enough to have a major impact.

If this was an AAR of an experienced player I'd be alot more forgiving, but as it isn't (no offence warspite) it brings the game into doubt in eyes as it presently stands. I think it should be extremely difficult for the Allies to break the West pre '18 and even then only be able to break it in'18 if enough attacks had gone in over the years to weaken it. WW1 Gold does a superb job of making it tough and the game follows historical route more or less and only a superb player at certain times could change that. No idea about SCWW1 as I've never played it, however I think aWW1 game lives or dies by how well it can recreate trench warfare and the difficulty it causes trying to break out of it.

I wonder if some reworking needs to be done to make the Germans a formidable force at the start and then damn hard to break down later on.

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RE: Bob Flemin's AAR se! - 11/17/2012 10:02:48 PM   
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Turn 74 - 12th April 1917

No change in northern Russia, although I have a couple of Infantry units are attacking Batumi in the south.

Romania

The German Army unit managed to get himself out of supply and so I put him out of his misery. The Romanians consolidate their position around Klausenberg.

Serbia

The last Turkish unit (I think) has been removed from Serbian soil and I hae a continuous line running from Belgrade to the coast south of Cetinje.

Italy

I repair the units around Zagreb and in the north, am only 2 hexes from Munich!

France

I land two Infantry reinforcements in Belgium and put a cavalry to sea. The Germans cling on in Liege and cause me some unwelcome casualties. However, the French push east and there is no German unit for 3 hexes north of Strassburg

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RE: Bob Flemin's AAR se! - 11/17/2012 10:06:24 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: wodin

Considering this is a first go I unconvinced that the game is that good at replicating WW1..especially how weak the Germans appear. I'd have been very impressed if the Germans had either 1, Taken Paris near the beginning which would show it will take an experienced player to hold them back or 2, At least hold the line until late '17 or even better until sometime in 18 or 19..Looks like the allies will win the War and the Americans haven't even come into it yet, not that they had much impact combat wise in the war but they did force Germany into the mass attack in '18 where they threw their all in and failed thus leaving them weak enough for the allies to hit them hard. If the game got to '19 I'd expect the American forces strong enough to have a major impact.

If this was an AAR of an experienced player I'd be alot more forgiving, but as it isn't (no offence warspite) it brings the game into doubt in eyes as it presently stands. I think it should be extremely difficult for the Allies to break the West pre '18 and even then only be able to break it in'18 if enough attacks had gone in over the years to weaken it. WW1 Gold does a superb job of making it tough and the game follows historical route more or less and only a superb player at certain times could change that. No idea about SCWW1 as I've never played it, however I think aWW1 game lives or dies by how well it can recreate trench warfare and the difficulty it causes trying to break out of it.

I wonder if some reworking needs to be done to make the Germans a formidable force at the start and then damn hard to break down later on.
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I'm deeply hurt that you don't recognise my wargaming genius

The way I see it is this. This has been really good fun. The guys have brought out what appears to be a non-buggy, stable, enjoyable game. There is plenty of time to fix the details with that platform to work from. I will provide further feedback in due course.

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RE: Bob Flemin's AAR se! - 11/17/2012 10:12:16 PM   
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Well warspite has very gallantly published this AAR, and for an experienced wargamer he is doing very well.

Remember he is playing on balanced, and no AI is perfect.


I would think that a warspite would be giving the AI 'privileged' setting next time.

Anyway, he has nonchalantly slapped me in the face with a bratwurst, and challenged me to campaign that we will start in a couple of weeks... Donner und Blitzen!!!
The result will be very different!!!




It will be schnapps and sausages in Paris before winter 1914!!

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RE: Bob Flemin's AAR se! - 11/17/2012 10:21:40 PM   
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Turn 75 - 26th April 1917

The unit in Liege was wiped out and the French have begun the process of rolling the Germans up from the north and trappng them against the Swiss border. Nothing else notable to report in the north.

In the Causcasus, the Russians have regained Batumi...

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