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Just Purchased - 11/12/2012 4:50:14 PM   
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I have successfully downloaded the game and look forward to learning the rule and systems. Sadly that won't be until the weekend because of work commitments but never mind.

Game looks nice - glad to see that NATO symbols are an option.

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RE: Just Purchased - 11/12/2012 4:58:32 PM   
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How big is the manual? Just trying to gauge complexity. Thanks.

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RE: Just Purchased - 11/12/2012 5:38:08 PM   
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How big is the manual? Just trying to gauge complexity. Thanks.
warspite1

About 64 pages - so about half the size of WITE.

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RE: Just Purchased - 11/12/2012 5:41:27 PM   
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Post your first impressions when you get the chance.

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RE: Just Purchased - 11/12/2012 5:49:56 PM   
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Post your first impressions when you get the chance.
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Will do - It will not be until Sunday though.

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RE: Just Purchased - 11/12/2012 6:19:53 PM   
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About 64 pages - so about half the size of WITE.


OK, thanks. Also, the current PDF for WitE is over 300 pages.


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RE: Just Purchased - 11/12/2012 6:42:45 PM   
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quote:

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About 64 pages - so about half the size of WITE.


OK, thanks. Also, the current PDF for WitE is over 300 pages.

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Goodness. I was going by my original

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RE: Just Purchased - 11/12/2012 8:48:18 PM   
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quote:

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About 64 pages - so about half the size of WITE.


OK, thanks. Also, the current PDF for WitE is over 300 pages.

warspite1

Goodness. I was going by my original


CtGW manual is beer and pretzels compared to WiTE's manual, believe me!


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RE: Just Purchased - 11/12/2012 9:23:59 PM   
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CtGW manual is beer and pretzels compared to WiTE's manual, believe me!



That's what I figured, which is fine. One WitE at a time is enough for me.


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RE: Just Purchased - 11/13/2012 12:28:01 AM   
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that's a bit of a disappointment I must say; as a kid I excelled at the more complex games because I was more capable of reading comprehension, and beer was out of the question at my age. I find myself still yearning for the intricacy of ASL, Mech War 2 or The Next War- there is nothing like going to sleep planning the next move. These beer and pretzel clickfest offerings are incredibly boring; like a tea made from a previously used teabag- weak and uninspiring.

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RE: Just Purchased - 11/13/2012 12:43:12 AM   
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that's a bit of a disappointment I must say; as a kid I excelled at the more complex games because I was more capable of reading comprehension, and beer was out of the question at my age. I find myself still yearning for the intricacy of ASL, Mech War 2 or The Next War- there is nothing like going to sleep planning the next move. These beer and pretzel clickfest offerings are incredibly boring; like a tea made from a previously used teabag- weak and uninspiring.



Well they are popular and sell well. I too would love a hyper detailed WW1 game, though not at Grand Strat scale, then again maybe I wouldn't mind the scale if it was a deep, hyper detailed game. I'd love it if you had to deal with logistics, from working out rail traffic ( the rail system and congestion had a major impact during the Somme for instance)for bringing in troops and the wounded, sorting out back areas for rest. Managing Etaples bull ring. Dealing with troop rotation and engineer equipment, making sure the front is managed well, wire available, materials at the front for building gun pits and repairing trench systems. I could really get into all that not just the actual battle side, though obviously fighting would be important and the logistics pre battle very important making sure there is enough Arty ammo, sending out pans for how long the bombardment should last, choosing the divisions you want involved and how much of the front you will attack. make sure the right leaders are in place. Send out the orders on who attacks first wave,second wave and third wave and set objectives per day (influenced by orders from Government\Kaiser). Then you click go and watch the battle unfold, no clicks required as it's all be done with the orders and prep. Thats what I'd love in a WW1 game.

However how well would it sell? Compared to an easy to pick up and play game.

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RE: Just Purchased - 11/13/2012 1:07:45 AM   
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These beer and pretzel clickfest offerings are incredibly boring; like a tea made from a previously used teabag- weak and uninspiring.


Guys, this is not a beer and pretzel clickfest - it's a very well done grand strategy WWI wargame.

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RE: Just Purchased - 11/13/2012 2:24:13 AM   
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I agree with Eric. I played the demo and found it was easy to pick up basic gameplay but down the road there are tough decisions that you have to make.
Its a game that you can play several turns in an evening against the AI or play a turn PBEM without taking too much time out of you schedule.
I highly recommend the game.

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RE: Just Purchased - 11/13/2012 2:33:33 AM   
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What demo? Thanks.

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RE: Just Purchased - 11/13/2012 2:36:09 AM   
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Was just gonna ask the same thing.. went looking on the product pages of both Matrix and Slitherine, but can't find the Demo link?

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RE: Just Purchased - 11/13/2012 2:57:07 AM   
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I was on the Beta testing team, sorry for the confusion.

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RE: Just Purchased - 11/14/2012 3:11:25 AM   
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@wodin- that is quite an amusing take.

I guess that I have been hoping that classic board wargames would find their way onto the pc, and matrix/slitherline being the venue they would be found. This is not a knock against them for what we've seen thus far, but I hear "beer and pretzels" a bit more frequently than I like.

Thanks

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RE: Just Purchased - 11/14/2012 9:06:51 AM   
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bought it, NOT disappointed, gradually getting into it...
Having seen how the recent mod for Commander Europe at War, rebooted that game, I figure this one will get an equal level of ongoing support.
As for price, I'd spend more taking the kids to the cinema for 2hrs. I'd spend the same on a book on the subject, and spend an equivalent amount of time with both.

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RE: Just Purchased - 11/14/2012 9:48:55 AM   
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@wodin- that is quite an amusing take.

I guess that I have been hoping that classic board wargames would find their way onto the pc, and matrix/slitherline being the venue they would be found. This is not a knock against them for what we've seen thus far, but I hear "beer and pretzels" a bit more frequently than I like.

Thanks



Actually I want a game that does all that..it would recreate WW1 better than any other game made, as it will concentrate on what made Ww1 so difficult for the HQ..planning..

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RE: Just Purchased - 11/14/2012 6:48:16 PM   
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You want a really complex WW1 game. The World War One Gold game that Matrix sells basic manual is only 228 pages, with lots of special rules for each country on top of the regular rules. That game is the result of a board game converted to a PC game, so be carefull of what you ask for.

I have not bought this game yet, but I suspect that this learning curve will not be as steep as the World War One Gold learning curve is.

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RE: Just Purchased - 11/15/2012 12:15:28 AM   
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oh cool ! I wasn t aware of that- I'll have to get a look at it when I have time. Thanks !

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RE: Just Purchased - 11/15/2012 12:20:45 AM   
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Actually I want a game that does all that..it would recreate WW1 better than any other game made, as it will concentrate on what made Ww1 so difficult for the HQ..planning..


I thought you were just having a bit of fun; on the other hand though, it sounds like you may have an interesting alternate view on factors affecting the outcome of that bit of senseless slaughter of humanity

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RE: Just Purchased - 11/15/2012 6:44:18 PM   
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ORIGINAL: warspite1

I have successfully downloaded the game and look forward to learning the rule and systems. Sadly that won't be until the weekend because of work commitments but never mind.

Game looks nice - glad to see that NATO symbols are an option.


I was lucky enough to have access last week to the Press Review copy ( as I'm writing a review of the game for 'The Wargamer' ).

I liked the game so much I bought it on Monday, it really is good if you are interested in the subject.
I've also got 'Guns of August' ( a hugely under rated game ) and the ultimate WWI Boardgame 'Fatal Alliances' by ADG, so its going to be interesting to compare CTGW to these other fine games on the subject.

My only gripe is the rather sparse look of the counters, as like Warspite, I'm a 'NATO' counters type of guy.
They could look nicer.

My advice is, if you are wavering, just buy it....you will not regret it.


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RE: Just Purchased - 11/16/2012 12:52:42 PM   
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Just picked up a copy last night.

My first WWI game in a long long time (like over 20 years).
Just in time for a week off work come the end of the day today.

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RE: Just Purchased - 11/16/2012 9:11:33 PM   
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I am REALLY enjoying the difference of this game and other WWI game I have. It is a great game. Wodin if you want a Complex WWI get WWI Gols from Matrix/Ageod play it via email with another human it fufills all your wishes in your post!

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RE: Just Purchased - 11/17/2012 12:15:24 AM   
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Just bought it myself and am waiting for the download to finish up now.

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RE: Just Purchased - 11/17/2012 2:27:30 AM   
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You guys won't be disappointed I believe. Welcome aboard to this fun little game.

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RE: Just Purchased - 11/17/2012 2:35:57 AM   
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Reading the rules right now on page 28 of 72 reading up on National Morale..........now which side to play first is the question.

Have to watch Paths of glory later tonight so might go Entente. Plan to pickup All Quiet on the western front tomorrow...need some mood setting stimulus. Not to mention pulling my WWI era history books out,think I'll start with the "Guns of August".

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RE: Just Purchased - 11/17/2012 2:50:26 AM   
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I've read the Guns of August years ago. I just might have to re read, I can't hardly remember a darn thing about WWI, especially the Russian front.

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RE: Just Purchased - 11/17/2012 2:56:20 AM   
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I read A World Undone during the beta. I had to refresh my memory about the Great War. :)

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