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Allied Subs impact on the Japanese economy - 11/4/2012 6:24:57 PM   
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In the game how badly can the Allied subs cripple the Japanese convoys?

Pre-September 1943, and mostly during 1943, I seem to be sinking AKs and escorts at the rate of about 2 every 3 days; not quite 1/day. Once September hits the dud rate drops to 10% and I would imagine the sinking's go way up.

Can the Allies get to a point where the subs are really hurting the Japanese convoy and the overall economy? And, this is really the impact that the Allies subs can have, not other factors effecting the Japanese economy.

At the rate of, say, 1+ ships sunk/day will it really matter?

in one of my PBEM, my opponent is TONS better and has really hurt me. There has not really been any offensive action which I could make for the past year. And, therefore, focused on the subs. I have had, at least I believe, pretty good sucess. Just trying to get an overview of what folks have seen.


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RE: Allied Subs impact on the Japanese economy - 11/4/2012 7:22:33 PM   
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Tanker losses are most critical. Focus a lot of your subs and offensive mining against TK and AO traffic, around Sarawak, Borneo and Port Arthur.
An occasional carrier raid from the Indian Ocean against ships in Palembang or Medang harbours might help a lot, too.
Even an invasion at the post west of Palembang can help a lot (use armoured forces for a quick push to Palembang). You will at least fix a division a(diversionary effect) afterwards this way.


A player should be able to convert enough small cargo ships to PBs and to form large enough convoys that allied subs will have few successes. A player will also use coastal minesweepers to keep critical harbours safe, so offensive minelaying has to be in shall water straits instead. Your minelaying subs won't run into his defensive minefields that often this way, as well.

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RE: Allied Subs impact on the Japanese economy - 11/5/2012 5:10:19 AM   
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quote:

Can the Allies get to a point where the subs are really hurting the Japanese convoy and the overall economy?


JSG said it.... it's the loss of tankers that will hurt Japan. Without tankers, Japan can't import enough oil and fuel to keep the HI supplied. In my game with Brad, I am starting to feel the loss of my tankers. We are in Jan 1944 and he has sunk 36 tankers with the majority of those in the last 8 months. That's somewhere around 35-40% of my tanker force. He has also sunk 6 AOs. I will need to use cargo ships to haul fuel and oil soon but they are very inefficient for this. It will be the only way I will be able to maintain adequate oil flow to the home islands in the future.

Japan has plenty of cargo ships to ensure adequate resources in the home islands and Hokkaido has tons of resources so stopping that will be near impossible.

Cut off the flow of fuel and oil and Japan will wither on the vine.

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