From: Bedfordshire UK
So even if 1.01 was playable it did not have features that made the game enjoyable.
But what is really wrong is that I DONT HAVE 1.01 and dont see how to get it.
The members section has only 1.03beta and I have only 1.02.
Before you say I could have gotten it I could not.
The only available patch at that time was 1.02. Which I got.
Dont mean to argue but I still feel this product is far from playable. Unless you like fantasy games.
I am not going to say you should have got 1.01, how would anyone know that these problems would arise with later versions. Perhaps Matrix and Wastelands should have a link to earlier versions of their games, for when users need to roll back, just like now.
Maybe Wastelands and Matrix should have done a better job of beta testing the product before and especially after release. You say 1.01 was very playable and no one noticed problems and you try to indicate that all of these problems came up in version 1.02 or the 1.03 beta which is hogwash. I bet every problem discovered in 1.02 or 1.03 has been in 1.01 all along, except for the disgusting change in convoy routing for Britain and the British Colonies which is definitely different from 1.02 to 1.03. One of the biggest mistakes I've seen as a beta tester in the past is that the beta testing crew gets released right after the product is released, just when they are needed most to test patch changes before we customers do.
If a player wants he can use the link in the start up part of the program that allows the program to determine if there is a newer patch out there to download. Even though I had the 1.03 public beta I tried that feature and it started to download 1.02 again so I cancelled that because I was happy with teh first 1.03 beta patch. I bought the game when 1.02 was the latest version so how the heck would I have ever gotten a chance to get 1.01? Yes it might be smart if Matrix offered all patches available for all programs just in case someone waned to dumb down the program. I was thankful I downloaded and saved the 1.03 beta patch so that I could reinstall the program and then upgrade to 1.03 after finding the problems with the 1.03b beta.
Instead of apologizing for Wastelands so profusely you should just admit a mea culpa, your numerous lame excuses make some people rather dubious about your honesty.
'In the popular vernacular, the expression "mea culpa" is an admission of having made a mistake by one's own fault' - Wiki.
You have have an unerring ability to misunderstand and misinterpret what has been said, or maybe you just don't care about other people's views. I have expressed my views on the game, which I am enjoying, where is the dishonesty.
In the post, which you have quoted, I realised that elmerlee had not had access to update 1.01, which at the time seemed to be the version with the least problems, I suggested that Wastelands provide a link to earlier versions of the game like 1.01, whilst the update then on offer was being fixed, where's the dishonesty in that. Like you say, if you come to the game at 1.02, how can you get 1.01, but then that point had already been made.
I think the main problem is one of attitude, for you it's 'glass half empty', for me it's 'glass half full'. I see a lot in this game which works very well, other features don't work properly, all of this is part of the open discussion on this forum that we have all joined in. The fact that you are still on the forum suggests that you think that there is something in the game that is worth your time. On balance there is a good game here, or why are we still plugging away at it.
Quote - You say 1.01 was very playable and no one noticed problems and you try to indicate that all of these problems came up in version 1.02 or the 1.03 beta which is hogwash.
Yes this is hogwash, but then it's your words not mine, Nobody, including me, said that all the problems started with 1.02, or 1.03, many of the problems have been with the game from the beginning, as a look through the forum will show. However, the items then under discussion, were first seen in 1.03b, but checking back found to have started with 1.02, to avoid those specific problems 1.01 seemed to be the best bet.
There are many posts in which we have all made comments, including me, about problems in the game. I have also made comments about what I see as the good points, but if you are going to make accusations of dishonesty will you give me the curtesy of showing where I have lied, because that is what dishonesty means.
Show me the lies, or give me an apology.
"We have to go from where we are, not from where we would like to be" - me