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OT Question for French - 10/27/2012 6:59:36 PM   
Natali

 

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Hi. Bienvenu.

How do French pronounce Soult - like Marshal Jean de Dieu Soult ?

Is it So? Is it Sowt? Is it Sowlt? Is it something else? Thanks. Merci.
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RE: OT Question for French - 10/27/2012 7:05:30 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Natali

Hi. Bienvenu.

How do French pronounce Soult - like Marshal Jean de Dieu Soult ?

Is it So? Is it Sowt? Is it Sowlt? Is it something else? Thanks. Merci.
warspite1

Well I'm not French, but I've watched Waterloo a few hundred times

I'm sure its Sult - wiith the U being pronounced as you would if saying pull

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RE: OT Question for French - 10/27/2012 7:57:07 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Natali

Hi. Bienvenu.

How do French pronounce Soult - like Marshal Jean de Dieu Soult ?

Is it So? Is it Sowt? Is it Sowlt? Is it something else? Thanks. Merci.


First off, my French-Canadian mother informs me that bienvenue should be spelled with an 'e' at the end.

As for the Marshal's name, she says "So" is the preferred choice here. As in, "So what makes Warspite1 think he speaks French?"

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RE: OT Question for French - 10/27/2012 8:41:24 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Chickenboy

quote:

ORIGINAL: Natali

Hi. Bienvenu.

How do French pronounce Soult - like Marshal Jean de Dieu Soult ?

Is it So? Is it Sowt? Is it Sowlt? Is it something else? Thanks. Merci.


First off, my French-Canadian mother informs me that bienvenue should be spelled with an 'e' at the end.

As for the Marshal's name, she says "So" is the preferred choice here. As in, "So what makes Warspite1 think he speaks French?"
warspite1

I'm sorry, I thought I made clear my impeccable credentials vis-a-vis my authority to opine on the pronouciation of the aforementioned French Marshal.

I have watched Waterloo loads of times and that's how Rod Steiger said it.

I think that proves beyond doubt that I am right - I cannot see what on earth gives your French Canadian mother any authority to speak on this subject at all. I mean, has she even seen Waterloo?

< Message edited by warspite1 -- 10/27/2012 8:45:02 PM >


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RE: OT Question for French - 10/27/2012 8:59:23 PM   
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Warspite is right. He should be pronounced sult.

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RE: OT Question for French - 10/27/2012 9:08:53 PM   
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Never seen Waterloo and I'm not French either.

But I have access to the highest authority - She-who-must-be-obeyed.

She says "Sult" (the way warspite1 explained) - and she is French.

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RE: OT Question for French - 10/28/2012 4:14:23 AM   
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I don't speak French, either, but I've heard that when it comes to proper nouns -- especially family names -- there are no rules. The only definitive answer would have to come from the Marshal himself.

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RE: OT Question for French - 10/28/2012 5:10:56 AM   
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I don't speak French, either, but I've heard that when it comes to proper nouns -- especially family names -- there are no rules.


As per Monthy Python: "yes, it's spelled 'Smythe', but it's pronounced 'Luxury Yacht'."

< Message edited by Blackhorse -- 10/28/2012 5:11:11 AM >


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RE: OT Question for French - 10/28/2012 7:13:42 AM   
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ORIGINAL: CaptDave

I don't speak French, either, but I've heard that when it comes to proper nouns -- especially family names -- there are no rules. The only definitive answer would have to come from the Marshal himself.
warspite1

Well I have had confirmation from three French people (two as per above) that he was pronounced Marshal Sult (the U as in Pull, not as in Gull). One of the guys working on MWIF hails from Marseilles was the third source, so he should know too. Happy with that Natali?

Out of curiosity, why do you ask?

< Message edited by warspite1 -- 10/28/2012 7:14:11 AM >


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RE: OT Question for French - 10/28/2012 12:55:09 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Blackhorse

quote:

ORIGINAL: CaptDave

I don't speak French, either, but I've heard that when it comes to proper nouns -- especially family names -- there are no rules.


As per Monthy Python: "yes, it's spelled 'Smythe', but it's pronounced 'Luxury Yacht'."




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RE: OT Question for French - 10/28/2012 2:20:27 PM   
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ORIGINAL: warspite1

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ORIGINAL: CaptDave

I don't speak French, either, but I've heard that when it comes to proper nouns -- especially family names -- there are no rules. The only definitive answer would have to come from the Marshal himself.
warspite1

Well I have had confirmation from three French people (two as per above) that he was pronounced Marshal Sult (the U as in Pull, not as in Gull). One of the guys working on MWIF hails from Marseilles was the third source, so he should know too. Happy with that Natali?

Out of curiosity, why do you ask?

Thank you all of you. I'm very happy.

I am reading a book about Soult in Spain and my brain keeps stumbling when I read his name. It was distracting. I read some more last nite and I'm a happy camper now. Thanks again.

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