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The main prize – Adsoul64 (A) vs. Cannonfodder (J) - 10/16/2012 3:47:44 PM   
adsoul64


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From: Milan Italy
Status: online 		I’m the lucky guy Cannonfodder chose for his next PBEM and I feel pretty excited to play a guy as skilled and expert. I was looking for a good opponent for a number of months and I had even some ill-fated start but I’m positive now that I’ve finally find the right guy.
Cannonfodder is well-known around but he doesn’t plan to start his own AAR. Anyway I’d be happy if he would post on this AAR just once before we start speeches about strategy, tactics etc. As far as I’m concerned, my PBEM experience is modest with AE although I’ve played a lot WitP but it looks it was a million of year ago. On the whole I’ve been playing wargames for30+ years right now and I really hope that this will be enough to give Cannonfodder a challenging game. That is more or less what everybody is looking for! Right now, we are well into the game anyway, running December 11th turn.

We’re playing DBB-28 under beta 1118.

Settings:
FOW: On
Advanced Weather: On
Allied Damage Control: On
PDU: On
Historical First Turn: Off
Dec. 7th Surprise: On
Reliable USN Torps: Off
Realistic R&D: On
No Unit Withdrawals: Off
Reinforcements -

House rules
1st turn, Allied player only able to command TF already at sea and units inside Chinese borders.
Max. alt for sweeps/caps best man. band + 1
No 4E naval bombing below 10k
Restricted units pay full PP to cross national borders

Yes, we kept house rules at the minimum. And now, let’s wait for my reputable opponent
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RE: The main prize – Adsoul64 (A) vs. Cannonfodder (J) - 10/16/2012 5:10:40 PM   
Cannonfodder


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Status: offline 		All that is left to me to say is good luck and most importantly have fun! You managed to suprise the first Japanese convoy at Miri so if your style is as aggressive as it seems to be this should become a fun and challenging game!



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Goals - 10/18/2012 11:35:19 AM   
adsoul64


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Status: online 		Many thanks to Cannonfodder. In fact, I’m not so aggressive, in my gaming club I was called “Cunctator” (delayer) and this is right the way I plan to act because Cannonfodder is much more skilled and expert than I do.
First, let’s see what are my goals in this game. To keep it simple: having fun and finally winning the war! I’m a pretty historical gamer so “having fun” means a game that is historically plausible. I mean no Palembang feast on my own. I don’t think that it could have happen and more I don’t think it’s fun a game where both players know that the Japanese *must* take that base or it will eventually lose the game. Nah, not for me, I like games where you have the feeling that your opponent could make something different every turn.
Basically, I’m persuaded that a decent Japanese player (and Cannonfodder is much more than this) can take almost everything at the outbreak of war and I’m willing to trade space for time. But there’s a handful of places where I will stay and fight if he will come. Namely:
Ceylon
Rangoon (maybe)
Western Australia
Hawaii
WC
I don’t expect to be able to keep him out of those bases in front of a strong resolute attack. My target is to make him pay the toll in terms of blood and time

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RE: Goals - 10/18/2012 12:13:48 PM   
obvert


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Status: offline 		Good luck! Looks like you've got a good match ahead.

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December, 7th - 10/22/2012 3:21:35 PM   
adsoul64


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From: Milan Italy
Status: online 		Many thanks Obvert, I’m positive you’re right. The game is off the blocks. First turn is pretty conventional, with PH surprise raid, strikes on Luzon and Malaya and an assault on Kota Bharu. Cannonfodder’s taking his time though, because Kota Bharu and Batan Island are his only landings. AFAIK, Force Z sailed out of the melee well South of the action and my flattops too are running for their own lives.

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Morning Air attack on Pearl Harbor , at 180,107

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 115 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 43 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 78
B5N2 Kate x 144
D3A1 Val x 135

Allied aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N2 Kate: 4 damaged
B5N2 Kate: 2 destroyed by flak
D3A1 Val: 9 damaged
D3A1 Val: 1 destroyed by flak

Allied aircraft losses
A-20A Havoc: 17 damaged
B-17D Fortress: 15 damaged
B-17D Fortress: 1 destroyed on ground
PBY-5 Catalina: 82 damaged
PBY-5 Catalina: 2 destroyed on ground
R3D-2: 1 damaged
F4F-3 Wildcat: 2 damaged
F4F-3 Wildcat: 1 destroyed on ground
B-18A Bolo: 19 damaged
B-18A Bolo: 1 destroyed on ground
O-47A: 6 damaged
P-40B Warhawk: 13 damaged
P-40B Warhawk: 2 destroyed on ground
SBD-1 Dauntless: 15 damaged
SBD-1 Dauntless: 1 destroyed on ground
B-17E Fortress: 7 damaged
C-33: 1 damaged
OS2U-3 Kingfisher: 4 destroyed

Allied Ships
BB Arizona, Bomb hits 4, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk
BB Maryland, Bomb hits 9, Torpedo hits 2, on fire
BB Nevada, Bomb hits 6, Torpedo hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage
BB Pennsylvania, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 3, heavy damage
BB California, Bomb hits 5, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
AV Tangier, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
BB Tennessee, Bomb hits 7, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
CL Phoenix, Bomb hits 1
BB Oklahoma, Bomb hits 7, Torpedo hits 4, and is sunk
BB West Virginia, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 4, and is sunk
CL Honolulu, Bomb hits 1
AVD Thornton, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
DM Preble, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
CA San Francisco, Bomb hits 1
CL Helena, Bomb hits 1, on fire

Allied ground losses:
44 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Repair Shipyard hits 2
Airbase hits 14
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 33
Port hits 30
Port fuel hits 2
Port supply hits 2
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Not too bad on the whole. I don’t think Cannonfodder will strike once again tomorrow for he should have bombed airstrips today. Let’s see.

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RE: December, 8th - 9th - 10/23/2012 12:23:54 PM   
adsoul64


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Status: online 		The notable event is a good performance of USN that managed to sink 5 Japanese transport and AV Sagara Maru off Miri. The interception force included CA Houston, CLs Marblehead & Boise plus 5DDs and it will pay the toll for her boldness next days. The 9th Japanese capture Nauru and Tarawa and land on Northern Luzon.
The thing is really crushing me is a TF cruising off Mindanao with Myoko, Haguro and 3 DDs (including my beloved and hated Amatsukaze), they are really carrying out a massacre of shipping running from Philippines. Off Tarakan there’s another little force with at least one CVL that is playing her own part sinking a couple of TKs

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December, 10th - 12th - 10/24/2012 11:17:10 AM   
adsoul64


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Status: online 		The little Allied fleet pays the toll for her boldness. Only DD Barker made it for Singapore for Haruna, Kongo, Takao and Atago are too much to handle for the Allied scratch fleet.
Shipping running from Philippines keep on be prey of Myoko and Haguro. The 12th, KB is sighted off Palmyra. I’m open to speculations on her target. My feeling is that Cannonfodder is mounting a big operation in Solomons – New Caledonia. He occupied both Kavieng and Buin very soon and I’m inclined to think those are starting point for further conquests Southward.

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ASW failures - 10/24/2012 12:39:28 PM   
adsoul64


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Status: online 		One week has passed and Cannonfodder is killing me with his Subs around Pearl. Every air assets in Hawaii is commited to fight them and I have 4 ASW TFs of 4 ships but I have not managed to sink anything, let alone force him to sail away. I read GreyJoy thread (http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=3189822) that it is based on Japanese point of view indeed, but basically I’m already doing everything. I’m afraid there’s no solutions till I have trained a number of airgroups and more escorts come out the shipyards. DBB has really cut down ASW power! Anyway, I’m open to advices!

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RE: ASW failures - 10/24/2012 5:33:11 PM   
BBfanboy


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Status: offline 		Even if they don't hit anything, air search, air ASW and surface ASW force the subs down where they can't get in position to attack you other shipping. Rendering them less effective is progress of sorts. Mines are the only thing that hit subs early in the game. Put them in every shallow hex the subs might go into! Use air dropped mines too - you get very few of the naval mines to spread around.

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December, 13th - 18th - 10/29/2012 3:13:25 PM   
adsoul64


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Status: online 		A lot happened this span of time, and obviously it was the Japanese responsible to made it happen. Basically I’ve lost the air war over both Luzon and Malaya. I’m a little bit disappointed, I was hoping to keep his a/c busy much more time here, but Cannonfodder committed at least a hundred of fighter and he’s very methodical in crushing my airstrips. Hat off!
He landed at Rabaul as well. The 15th I sent an ANZAC SCTF against his transports but they were well protected by 4 CAs (Aoba, Kako, Kinugasa and Furutaka). The melee was inconclusive but the morning after the battle raged again and Perth was lost. I don’t like those battles restarting more and more, I took a note to set fast speed for my ship that come out of a battle in order to run away. Anyway, now the Japanese is master of the sea around Rabaul and he’s enjoying this privilege to bombard the base with Mutsu. As a measure of vengeance I sent CAs Canberra & Australia to bombard Shortlands’ shore.
The 16th I suffered my worst setback when the IJA 39th Division crossed the Ganjiang river nearby Nanchang defeating my bigger force. This let the road to Changsha open and I’m now in a hurry to fill the gap.

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Patrol lenght - 10/29/2012 3:51:00 PM   
adsoul64


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Status: online 		About my ASW war, it looks like I’ve been able to cut down the number of attacks against my shipping. I’m grateful to everybody who sent me advices and especially to Grayjoy and Bullwinkle who shared with me their thoughts and ideas.
I’m assuming that his sub patrolling Hawaii area will go back to Kwajalein to refuel and rearm. Japanese sub endurance is between 3,000 and 4,000 so how long could subs stay out? Somebody have estimated it?

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RE: Patrol lenght - 10/29/2012 3:57:16 PM   
obvert


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ORIGINAL: adsoul64

About my ASW war, it looks like I’ve been able to cut down the number of attacks against my shipping. I’m grateful to everybody who sent me advices and especially to Grayjoy and Bullwinkle who shared with me their thoughts and ideas.
I’m assuming that his sub patrolling Hawaii area will go back to Kwajalein to refuel and rearm. Japanese sub endurance is between 3,000 and 4,000 so how long could subs stay out? Somebody have estimated it?



Actually only the RO subs have such a short range. Most fleet subs, and any with planes, will be more like 14k range. They can hangout for a good while.

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RE: Patrol lenght - 10/29/2012 4:21:56 PM   
adsoul64


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Status: online 		Of course, my mistake, thanks obvert. The largest one has 16,000+ endurance, my bet is 2+ months every cruise

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December, 19th - 22nd - 10/30/2012 1:27:10 PM   
adsoul64


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Status: online 		Bad news: landings at Rabaul. On 18th first Japanese G.I. set feet on New Britain. By the 22nd the city speaks Japanese language, with a big help from BB Mutsu providing close support.
Baker Island as well has been conquered on 21st, the day after a pair of DM, Breese e Tracy, heading for Suva, raided the harbor sinking 4 docked ships. Good job from little ships!
Philippines: Allied conquered Vigan but a strong Japanese column coming from Aparri is approaching the triangle Clark Field – Manila – Bataan. We have sent a column to deal with them hoping to catch them before the column coming along the Western path but I’m not sure this was a good move, looks like I could have rather waiting for them entrenched in cities.
Finally, Chinese troops are on the offensive at Ichang: losses very high but I hope to kick out Cannonfodder.

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RE: December, 19th - 22nd - 11/27/2012 2:36:38 PM   
adsoul64


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Status: online 		OK, let's facing the facts: I cannot spare the time to feed up this thread with punctual updating. Game is running smoothly and we're closing to the end of January, but the AAR is trailing by 1 full months. I don't want to let the thread die, though, so I will try a lighter approach with less frequent updates that will sum up the whole situation.

Right now I'm a little bit worried by the pace of Japan advance. In Luzon they are besieging Bataan. Historical, maybe, but a little bit too early indeed. In Malaya same thing. I still have an enclave in Temuloh but basically Cannonfodder is knocking at Singapore gates.

On a positive side, ASW war is going better due to a combinated effort by air assets, ASW patrols and convoy route changing.

My plan for the next future include establishing some little bases in Solomons in order to prevent (well, let's say "delay") enemy expansion and a major defensive effort in Koepang with a strong support from Darwin that will be developed in a major base.

I'm not a fan of developing Darwin that IMHO it's doomed to fall more sooner than later, but I think that's the time to stop the retreat and start fighting.

More sooner especially about China, a very worrying area indeed.

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KB is a headache - 12/3/2012 3:23:42 PM   
adsoul64


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Status: online 		January 1942 is almost over. Luzon is Japanese with the exception of Bataan where I still have 500 AV but very short of supply, so doomed to fall more sooner than later. From Mindanao come good news. He landed in Davao but 3 regular Philippinos Rgt and a Constabulary one have repulsed all attacks. Now the Japanese stand helplessly short of supply. Still better, USN CVs have intercepted a relieving convoy sinking 2 transport and an escort.

Malaya: still knocking at the door of Singapore.

South Pacific. It’s very frustrating, KB appeared for the third time off Suva, slaughtering everything was floating or flying. I just don’t know how Allies could impair this, SUBs are too prone to duds aircraft cannot even take off, let alone get the better of the CAP, so… I’m out of ideas. Some thoughts or advices? Suva (and narrow bases) aren’t still developed to major airfields so they cannot base nothing more than a handful of squadrons.


China. The worst situation. He’s been able to break through the Loyang-Chengchow area and now my bet is he will advance on Nanyang where I could mount nothing more a symbolical resistance (see picture). Then bets are open, but the road to Chungking is open. I hope he will need to recover his units and I will try to buy some time in order to improve my forts. Let’s see.





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